When Assault Rifles get into the hands of people that want to harm police, and other people

Anonymous
Let's see what Dallas Police Chief thinks about gun control...

"In a dramatic moment, he urged legislators to do their jobs and propose new laws to combat gun violence.

"We're doing ours. We're putting our lives on the line," Brown said. "The other aspects of government need to step up and help us.""

He also addresses open carry laws.


http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/11/485559307/listen-on-guns-dallas-police-chief-tells-legislators-do-your-job
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Would you have been happier if the Dallas cops had been murdered by horse shit? By edged weapons?

Guns are not responsible for murder. Murderers are responsible for murder.


Are you listening to yourself?

How many Dallas police officers would be dead if the committed murderer had been armed with an edged weapon?

You're not making sense.


Right, Timothy McVeigh and the Tsarnaev brothers were completely frustrated in their efforts to carry out an attack that resulted in a large number of casualties.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Let's see what Dallas Police Chief thinks about gun control...

"In a dramatic moment, he urged legislators to do their jobs and propose new laws to combat gun violence.

"We're doing ours. We're putting our lives on the line," Brown said. "The other aspects of government need to step up and help us.""

He also addresses open carry laws.


http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/11/485559307/listen-on-guns-dallas-police-chief-tells-legislators-do-your-job


Select quotes:

"2. He also touched on the problem he sees with open-carry laws, which he said were increasingly challenging for law enforcement. "We don't know who the good guy is versus who the bad guy is if everybody starts shooting," he said."

So in his mind, only the bad guys should be shooting? He wants innocent people to be powerless to defend themselves against an active shooter because that makes it easier for the police to tell who the bad guys are? Really? Is this what you want, a police that guns only in the hands of criminals and murderers?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The only reason to have an assault rifle is to kill people in mass quickly. Why does this surprise anyone.


Exactly. Assault rifles should be for military or police use only. If you aren't on active duty in a war zone, (for example) you don't need one.

BUT... people love their guns. A pistol isn't good enough to defend yourself or your home/family.



Police vests don't protect against assault rifles so the police are screwed in a gun battle with an assault weapon. That's what happened in Dallas. Vests didn't protect the police. This is scary and sad especially when we have all of the bad guys in america walking down the streets with their assault weapons. We need to get a hold of this before it is too late.


They do make vests that are better equipped against ARs. However, they are more costly and departments do not provide the officers with them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's see what Dallas Police Chief thinks about gun control...

"In a dramatic moment, he urged legislators to do their jobs and propose new laws to combat gun violence.

"We're doing ours. We're putting our lives on the line," Brown said. "The other aspects of government need to step up and help us.""

He also addresses open carry laws.


http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/11/485559307/listen-on-guns-dallas-police-chief-tells-legislators-do-your-job


Select quotes:

"2. He also touched on the problem he sees with open-carry laws, which he said were increasingly challenging for law enforcement. "We don't know who the good guy is versus who the bad guy is if everybody starts shooting," he said."

So in his mind, only the bad guys should be shooting? He wants innocent people to be powerless to defend themselves against an active shooter because that makes it easier for the police to tell who the bad guys are? Really? Is this what you want, a police that guns only in the hands of criminals and murderers?


The less guns the better - good and bad guys. Let's get rid of them all.

This guy has a lot of experience with bad guys/violence and is trying to keep his community safe. I'll listen to him over some hobby gun nut.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's see what Dallas Police Chief thinks about gun control...

"In a dramatic moment, he urged legislators to do their jobs and propose new laws to combat gun violence.

"We're doing ours. We're putting our lives on the line," Brown said. "The other aspects of government need to step up and help us.""

He also addresses open carry laws.


http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/11/485559307/listen-on-guns-dallas-police-chief-tells-legislators-do-your-job


Select quotes:

"2. He also touched on the problem he sees with open-carry laws, which he said were increasingly challenging for law enforcement. "We don't know who the good guy is versus who the bad guy is if everybody starts shooting," he said."

So in his mind, only the bad guys should be shooting? He wants innocent people to be powerless to defend themselves against an active shooter because that makes it easier for the police to tell who the bad guys are? Really? Is this what you want, a police that guns only in the hands of criminals and murderers?


The less guns the better - good and bad guys. Let's get rid of them all.

This guy has a lot of experience with bad guys/violence and is trying to keep his community safe. I'll listen to him over some hobby gun nut.



No, there is no evidence that less guns = less bad guys/violence.

Take a look at actual data:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States_by_state

Gun ownership rate has *NO* correlation to overall rate of murders and gun murders. Just because this guy has a lot of experience does not make him right. Donald Trump has a lot of experience running a business, does not make him a great business man.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's see what Dallas Police Chief thinks about gun control...

"In a dramatic moment, he urged legislators to do their jobs and propose new laws to combat gun violence.

"We're doing ours. We're putting our lives on the line," Brown said. "The other aspects of government need to step up and help us.""

He also addresses open carry laws.


http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/11/485559307/listen-on-guns-dallas-police-chief-tells-legislators-do-your-job


Select quotes:

"2. He also touched on the problem he sees with open-carry laws, which he said were increasingly challenging for law enforcement. "We don't know who the good guy is versus who the bad guy is if everybody starts shooting," he said."

So in his mind, only the bad guys should be shooting? He wants innocent people to be powerless to defend themselves against an active shooter because that makes it easier for the police to tell who the bad guys are? Really? Is this what you want, a police that guns only in the hands of criminals and murderers?


The less guns the better - good and bad guys. Let's get rid of them all.

This guy has a lot of experience with bad guys/violence and is trying to keep his community safe. I'll listen to him over some hobby gun nut.



I hope you don't carry. If I see a yokel with a gun, I am taking me and my kids outta there. I have no idea who you are ir who you'll start shooting. If you're not professionally licensed to carry for your job, I'm going to assume you're capable of the worst. I'm going to assume you're not trained in public safety, just private safety (if that) of yourself. That could harm me and my kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's see what Dallas Police Chief thinks about gun control...

"In a dramatic moment, he urged legislators to do their jobs and propose new laws to combat gun violence.

"We're doing ours. We're putting our lives on the line," Brown said. "The other aspects of government need to step up and help us.""

He also addresses open carry laws.


http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/11/485559307/listen-on-guns-dallas-police-chief-tells-legislators-do-your-job


Select quotes:

"2. He also touched on the problem he sees with open-carry laws, which he said were increasingly challenging for law enforcement. "We don't know who the good guy is versus who the bad guy is if everybody starts shooting," he said."

So in his mind, only the bad guys should be shooting? He wants innocent people to be powerless to defend themselves against an active shooter because that makes it easier for the police to tell who the bad guys are? Really? Is this what you want, a police that guns only in the hands of criminals and murderers?


The less guns the better - good and bad guys. Let's get rid of them all.

This guy has a lot of experience with bad guys/violence and is trying to keep his community safe. I'll listen to him over some hobby gun nut.



No, there is no evidence that less guns = less bad guys/violence.

Take a look at actual data:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States_by_state

Gun ownership rate has *NO* correlation to overall rate of murders and gun murders. Just because this guy has a lot of experience does not make him right. Donald Trump has a lot of experience running a business, does not make him a great business man.


You are deluded into thinking guns = safety. It's a shame you care much more about your right to a hobby than to the safety of your community.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's see what Dallas Police Chief thinks about gun control...

"In a dramatic moment, he urged legislators to do their jobs and propose new laws to combat gun violence.

"We're doing ours. We're putting our lives on the line," Brown said. "The other aspects of government need to step up and help us.""

He also addresses open carry laws.


http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/11/485559307/listen-on-guns-dallas-police-chief-tells-legislators-do-your-job


Select quotes:

"2. He also touched on the problem he sees with open-carry laws, which he said were increasingly challenging for law enforcement. "We don't know who the good guy is versus who the bad guy is if everybody starts shooting," he said."

So in his mind, only the bad guys should be shooting? He wants innocent people to be powerless to defend themselves against an active shooter because that makes it easier for the police to tell who the bad guys are? Really? Is this what you want, a police that guns only in the hands of criminals and murderers?


The less guns the better - good and bad guys. Let's get rid of them all.

This guy has a lot of experience with bad guys/violence and is trying to keep his community safe. I'll listen to him over some hobby gun nut.



I hope you don't carry. If I see a yokel with a gun, I am taking me and my kids outta there. I have no idea who you are ir who you'll start shooting. If you're not professionally licensed to carry for your job, I'm going to assume you're capable of the worst. I'm going to assume you're not trained in public safety, just private safety (if that) of yourself. That could harm me and my kids.


Of course I don't carry. WTF would I want to carry around a lethal weapon. I'm not in a war zone.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's see what Dallas Police Chief thinks about gun control...

"In a dramatic moment, he urged legislators to do their jobs and propose new laws to combat gun violence.

"We're doing ours. We're putting our lives on the line," Brown said. "The other aspects of government need to step up and help us.""

He also addresses open carry laws.


http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/11/485559307/listen-on-guns-dallas-police-chief-tells-legislators-do-your-job


Select quotes:

"2. He also touched on the problem he sees with open-carry laws, which he said were increasingly challenging for law enforcement. "We don't know who the good guy is versus who the bad guy is if everybody starts shooting," he said."

So in his mind, only the bad guys should be shooting? He wants innocent people to be powerless to defend themselves against an active shooter because that makes it easier for the police to tell who the bad guys are? Really? Is this what you want, a police that guns only in the hands of criminals and murderers?


The less guns the better - good and bad guys. Let's get rid of them all.

This guy has a lot of experience with bad guys/violence and is trying to keep his community safe. I'll listen to him over some hobby gun nut.



No, there is no evidence that less guns = less bad guys/violence.

Take a look at actual data:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States_by_state

Gun ownership rate has *NO* correlation to overall rate of murders and gun murders. Just because this guy has a lot of experience does not make him right. Donald Trump has a lot of experience running a business, does not make him a great business man.


You are deluded into thinking guns = safety. It's a shame you care much more about your right to a hobby than to the safety of your community.


I really don't understand why you wasted your time typing this when I very clearly said that gun ownership has no correlation to overall rate of murders and gun murders. In other words, guns don't cause any more or less murders and gun murders. No correlation. Got that? This is shown by actual data. This is not based on my warm and fuzzy feelings. My preference to own or not own a gun does not factor into this. This is real actual raw data for people to see, examine, and understand. Understand?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's see what Dallas Police Chief thinks about gun control...

"In a dramatic moment, he urged legislators to do their jobs and propose new laws to combat gun violence.

"We're doing ours. We're putting our lives on the line," Brown said. "The other aspects of government need to step up and help us.""

He also addresses open carry laws.


http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/11/485559307/listen-on-guns-dallas-police-chief-tells-legislators-do-your-job


Select quotes:

"2. He also touched on the problem he sees with open-carry laws, which he said were increasingly challenging for law enforcement. "We don't know who the good guy is versus who the bad guy is if everybody starts shooting," he said."

So in his mind, only the bad guys should be shooting? He wants innocent people to be powerless to defend themselves against an active shooter because that makes it easier for the police to tell who the bad guys are? Really? Is this what you want, a police that guns only in the hands of criminals and murderers?


The less guns the better - good and bad guys. Let's get rid of them all.

This guy has a lot of experience with bad guys/violence and is trying to keep his community safe. I'll listen to him over some hobby gun nut.



I hope you don't carry. If I see a yokel with a gun, I am taking me and my kids outta there. I have no idea who you are ir who you'll start shooting. If you're not professionally licensed to carry for your job, I'm going to assume you're capable of the worst. I'm going to assume you're not trained in public safety, just private safety (if that) of yourself. That could harm me and my kids.


And that is well within your rights. But if you live in Va you're probably surrounded by concealed carriers all the time and have no idea. To be truly "free" from guns you should stay in DC or MD. They have extremely strict (and unconstitutional) gun laws and virtually zero gun violence. Like, several people didn't get into a shootout behind a school last night in DC, a random civilian wasn't gunned down for seemingly no reason, and the weekly Bloomingdale gunfire didn't happen around midnight this morning. Yes, stay in the "gun free" zones.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Would you have been happier if the Dallas cops had been murdered by horse shit? By edged weapons?

Guns are not responsible for murder. Murderers are responsible for murder.


Are you listening to yourself?

How many Dallas police officers would be dead if the committed murderer had been armed with an edged weapon?

You're not making sense.


Right, Timothy McVeigh and the Tsarnaev brothers were completely frustrated in their efforts to carry out an attack that resulted in a large number of casualties.


OK, so let's restrict access to guns so we can stop evildoers with guns from committing many thousands of gun homicides every year. Then, when we've solved the obvious first problem, we can begin to work together to stop other evildoers from killing people with homemade bombs.

Just because restricting gun access won't stop 100% of murders doesn't mean it's not a worthwhile goal.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's see what Dallas Police Chief thinks about gun control...

"In a dramatic moment, he urged legislators to do their jobs and propose new laws to combat gun violence.

"We're doing ours. We're putting our lives on the line," Brown said. "The other aspects of government need to step up and help us.""

He also addresses open carry laws.


http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/11/485559307/listen-on-guns-dallas-police-chief-tells-legislators-do-your-job


Select quotes:

"2. He also touched on the problem he sees with open-carry laws, which he said were increasingly challenging for law enforcement. "We don't know who the good guy is versus who the bad guy is if everybody starts shooting," he said."

So in his mind, only the bad guys should be shooting? He wants innocent people to be powerless to defend themselves against an active shooter because that makes it easier for the police to tell who the bad guys are? Really? Is this what you want, a police that guns only in the hands of criminals and murderers?


The less guns the better - good and bad guys. Let's get rid of them all.

This guy has a lot of experience with bad guys/violence and is trying to keep his community safe. I'll listen to him over some hobby gun nut.



No, there is no evidence that less guns = less bad guys/violence.

Take a look at actual data:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States_by_state

Gun ownership rate has *NO* correlation to overall rate of murders and gun murders. Just because this guy has a lot of experience does not make him right. Donald Trump has a lot of experience running a business, does not make him a great business man.


You are deluded into thinking guns = safety. It's a shame you care much more about your right to a hobby than to the safety of your community.


Is free speech a "hobby"? What about freedom of religion? Please identify all hobbies protected by the Bill of Rights.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's see what Dallas Police Chief thinks about gun control...

"In a dramatic moment, he urged legislators to do their jobs and propose new laws to combat gun violence.

"We're doing ours. We're putting our lives on the line," Brown said. "The other aspects of government need to step up and help us.""

He also addresses open carry laws.


http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/11/485559307/listen-on-guns-dallas-police-chief-tells-legislators-do-your-job


Select quotes:

"2. He also touched on the problem he sees with open-carry laws, which he said were increasingly challenging for law enforcement. "We don't know who the good guy is versus who the bad guy is if everybody starts shooting," he said."

So in his mind, only the bad guys should be shooting? He wants innocent people to be powerless to defend themselves against an active shooter because that makes it easier for the police to tell who the bad guys are? Really? Is this what you want, a police that guns only in the hands of criminals and murderers?


The less guns the better - good and bad guys. Let's get rid of them all.

This guy has a lot of experience with bad guys/violence and is trying to keep his community safe. I'll listen to him over some hobby gun nut.



No, there is no evidence that less guns = less bad guys/violence.

Take a look at actual data:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States_by_state

Gun ownership rate has *NO* correlation to overall rate of murders and gun murders. Just because this guy has a lot of experience does not make him right. Donald Trump has a lot of experience running a business, does not make him a great business man.


You are deluded into thinking guns = safety. It's a shame you care much more about your right to a hobby than to the safety of your community.


I really don't understand why you wasted your time typing this when I very clearly said that gun ownership has no correlation to overall rate of murders and gun murders. In other words, guns don't cause any more or less murders and gun murders. No correlation. Got that? This is shown by actual data. This is not based on my warm and fuzzy feelings. My preference to own or not own a gun does not factor into this. This is real actual raw data for people to see, examine, and understand. Understand?


But then when you look globally there is a correlation.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/nation/gun-homicides-ownership/table/
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/06/14/upshot/compare-these-gun-death-rates-the-us-is-in-a-different-world.html
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's see what Dallas Police Chief thinks about gun control...

"In a dramatic moment, he urged legislators to do their jobs and propose new laws to combat gun violence.

"We're doing ours. We're putting our lives on the line," Brown said. "The other aspects of government need to step up and help us.""

He also addresses open carry laws.


http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/11/485559307/listen-on-guns-dallas-police-chief-tells-legislators-do-your-job


Select quotes:

"2. He also touched on the problem he sees with open-carry laws, which he said were increasingly challenging for law enforcement. "We don't know who the good guy is versus who the bad guy is if everybody starts shooting," he said."

So in his mind, only the bad guys should be shooting? He wants innocent people to be powerless to defend themselves against an active shooter because that makes it easier for the police to tell who the bad guys are? Really? Is this what you want, a police that guns only in the hands of criminals and murderers?


The less guns the better - good and bad guys. Let's get rid of them all.

This guy has a lot of experience with bad guys/violence and is trying to keep his community safe. I'll listen to him over some hobby gun nut.



I hope you don't carry. If I see a yokel with a gun, I am taking me and my kids outta there. I have no idea who you are ir who you'll start shooting. If you're not professionally licensed to carry for your job, I'm going to assume you're capable of the worst. I'm going to assume you're not trained in public safety, just private safety (if that) of yourself. That could harm me and my kids.


And that is well within your rights. But if you live in Va you're probably surrounded by concealed carriers all the time and have no idea. To be truly "free" from guns you should stay in DC or MD. They have extremely strict (and unconstitutional) gun laws and virtually zero gun violence. Like, several people didn't get into a shootout behind a school last night in DC, a random civilian wasn't gunned down for seemingly no reason, and the weekly Bloomingdale gunfire didn't happen around midnight this morning. Yes, stay in the "gun free" zones.


LOL. Easy drive over to backwards VA. There are a few gun shops inside the beltway too for convenience.
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