So Mad at Ex Right Now

[Anonymous]

Your daughter is doing things right now that normal teenagers do all the time in America and in most other countries. The fact that you don't think she should be riding a bus or meeting people you don't know should let you know this is abnormal parenting. Perhaps if she was 13 I could see your point, but even if she was 15 I think what she is doing is normal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Funny if kids that go to Wootton go to Beach Week and are given car keys and parent say have a great summer... they are spoiled entitled shits.

If a 17 year old girl is allowed to walk free alone with no friends around a place in Europe it is cool.

Hope she does not get raped... like 1 in 3 girls and 1 in 6 freshman at college.

I don't care who you are ... you don't walk around alone.
Your friends/family need to know where you are and when you are getting home.

OP's kid isn't just going off to a party. She's got a job and is going to work.

[Anonymous]

I'm polish and from Warsaw- i love this city ! Currently spending the summer here be thankful for the opportunity he gave to your daughter

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I told him before she left that head to watch her. She is working there too, near his office, but he just parts ways with her at the bus stop. WTF? I knew he was always the "hand off" parent and doesn't really care about her. Otherwise he would watch her more. He says he introduced her to other teens - Poles and expats - and she goes out with them. I don't know them. Plus, Warsaw isn't exactly London or Paris or Berlin or some such developed place.

It reminds me of the movie Taken. But Taken takes place in Paris not Warsaw.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The world has never been safe but it's obvious to me that so many posting on here are either unaware, or indifferent, to the rampant human trafficking that is going on.

No matter how responsible and intelligent a 17 year old 'young woman' is she lacks the practical experience of someone 10+ years older and is absolutely more vulnerable to those who would do her harm.

A young American is the last one to be in danger of being trafficked in Poland. Get a grip. I hope she's enjoying her trip. Sounds more fun than stuck at home with mom.

[Anonymous]

Warsaw is much safer than Washington DC or just about any other major U.S. city.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I told him before she left that head to watch her. She is working there too, near his office, but he just parts ways with her at the bus stop. WTF? I knew he was always the "hand off" parent and doesn't really care about her. Otherwise he would watch her more. He says he introduced her to other teens - Poles and expats - and she goes out with them. I don't know them. Plus, Warsaw isn't exactly London or Paris or Berlin or some such developed place.

It reminds me of the movie Taken. But Taken takes place in Paris not Warsaw.

OP is like:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The world has never been safe but it's obvious to me that so many posting on here are either unaware, or indifferent, to the rampant human trafficking that is going on.

No matter how responsible and intelligent a 17 year old 'young woman' is she lacks the practical experience of someone 10+ years older and is absolutely more vulnerable to those who would do her harm.

Then good thing the Ex got her some place safe! Otherwise she could be hanging around DC!

Index Info Washington, DC Warsaw
Crime Index: 65.72 27.12
Safety Scale: 34.28 72.88

Great that Warsaw is considered safer. I would bet it's even safer than many American cities. I do however stand by my statement "No matter how responsible and intelligent a 17 year old 'young woman' is she lacks the practical experience of someone 10+ years older and is absolutely more vulnerable to those who would do her harm."

Yes, we get that you are a particularly stubborn fool.

[Anonymous]

OP, I'd be peeing my pants too. But it'll be ok.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Warsaw is much safer than Washington DC or just about any other major U.S. city.

D.C. is terrible. This is true, still she should be in touch with her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Funny if kids that go to Wootton go to Beach Week and are given car keys and parent say have a great summer... they are spoiled entitled shits.

If a 17 year old girl is allowed to walk free alone with no friends around a place in Europe it is cool.

Hope she does not get raped... like 1 in 3 girls and 1 in 6 freshman at college.

I don't care who you are ... you don't walk around alone.
Your friends/family need to know where you are and when you are getting home.

OP's kid isn't just going off to a party. She's got a job and is going to work.

That is all she will do all summer,go to a job. No social life?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Funny if kids that go to Wootton go to Beach Week and are given car keys and parent say have a great summer... they are spoiled entitled shits.

If a 17 year old girl is allowed to walk free alone with no friends around a place in Europe it is cool.

Hope she does not get raped... like 1 in 3 girls and 1 in 6 freshman at college.

I don't care who you are ... you don't walk around alone.
Your friends/family need to know where you are and when you are getting home.

There's no reason to think her father is not verifying she is home on time every night. There is every reason to wonder why her mother is trying to control her from 4000 miles away.

Because she is alone and it is not safe for women (and men) to be alone.

It would be nice if her ex could say... she has a phone, I went with her to work the 1st day, something.....

Pretending it is okay for a girl to be off alone is not safe.

I have exchange students from all over stay with me... they do not get a bus pass and I send them on their merry way. They are taught how to be safe, how to avoid trouble areas, troubled people, to stay in groups or well light areas, when it is not safe to walk home from metro, to call, don't take Uber alone unless you have your phone ready, etc

I doubt her H is being diligent since most people on this site seem to be so incredibly ignorant to basic safety.... like while in FLA don't wade in the water.

OMG you are completely ridiculous. The girl is staying with her father for the summer. She is presumably home every night. She has a job. She has a bus pass. She and her father walk to the bus stop together every morning. She is in a major European city with a well developed public transit system. She's getting her own friends. Just what sort of support do you envisage her father providing that he isn't right now? Should he accompany her to her job and watch her punch in? Personally interview everyone he hangs out with? What do you mean it's not safe for a girl to be alone? Like, anywhere any time? Do you not see girls and women walking alone in DC all the time? What country are you from that you don't think it's not safe for her to be alone?

Omg you are making stuff up, why? None of that was said in the post.

No, women should not walk alone, a busy street is not alone. At night always tell people to walk in groups. Boys/girls

The father should provide her with basic guidelines, cerfew, etc.

OP's ex is being a douche saying he just gave her a pass and she is off alone.

So you don't know who your kids are hanging out with... You allow them to go to parties where parents furnish alcohol, of course the dad should know who she is hanging out with.

I am from DC... There are certain streets you avoid, you don't walk alone, never down alleys,you don't walk home alone at night,you uber with friends.

[Anonymous]

OP, do you know that children in most European countries start going about the city independently around the ages of 10-12, if not earlier? Funnily, they seem to escape the experience unscatched.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also, OP, your subject line is a dead giveaway.
You didn't title this thread "worried about daughter's safety" and place it in the "Tweens and Teens" section.
You titled it "so mad at Ex right now" and put in the relationships section.
You hate him so much you'll grasp at ANYTHING, no matter how ridiculous, to get angry about.
Learn to co-parent and leave your daughter out of your resentment toward your Ex.

Guys, stop trying to convince her it's safe. That's not what this is about.

[Anonymous]

What is it about then?