Europe is much more inclusive and liberal with muslims and immigrants why are they targeted?

[Anonymous]

Eliminate chain migration that brings in unending flows of distant relatives of an original immigrant.

Eliminate the visa lottery that brings in people by raffle.

Eliminate employment-based visas for workers who have skills that unemployed Americans have.

[Anonymous]

I live in Europe. I have a colleague who is originally from Pakistan, and he has a very (the most) popular Muslim name. He is talks a lot about how racist people here are. He is single and lonely, and has been trying to date online for the past year, and last week was telling me about how a lot of women have told him that they don't want to date a person from his part of the world. He is a really sweet guy and I feel so bad for him. I DO think people here are more racist than in the US, but it is a subtle racism, and the worst part about it is that the most racist Europeans I know also claim to be the most liberal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:With all of the whining about integration, one should also bear in mind that many of the European muslims that everyone is up in arms over were either not born in Europe or are the first generation born in Europe. If one were to compare this to the reality of immigrants who came to America via Ellis Island at the turn of the century. They didn't suddenly learn English and integrate, either. Folks who are now in their 60s and 70s who had grandparents arrive from Italy and elsewhere via Ellis Island in the late 1800s and early 1900s all have stories of their nonnas et cetera who could only speak broken English up until the day they died. Hundreds of newspapers flourished in all American cities back then, written in Polish, Slovak, Italian, Yiddish, et cetera. Integration isn't something that happens immediately - it takes at least one generation and more often two. And another American lesson to learn is that integration happens even more slowly when foreign populations are ghettoized.

Yet here we are with people standing there tapping their foot, arms crossed, scowling, demanding to know why the immigrants who just arrived in Europe just a couple of years ago haven't yet fully integrated, and worse yet, coming up with contorted prognostications about how they will never integrate. Learn some history, folks.

American immigrants didn't come from countries decimated and subjugated by America for centuries.

American immigrants didn't have to live a country that keeps silent about a recent independence war that slaughtered 700,000 people.

American immigrants did not count on any welfare net.

And the most important part - American immigrants really, really, really wanted to integrate. Poverty was common, anger wasn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I live in Europe. I have a colleague who is originally from Pakistan, and he has a very (the most) popular Muslim name. He is talks a lot about how racist people here are. He is single and lonely, and has been trying to date online for the past year, and last week was telling me about how a lot of women have told him that they don't want to date a person from his part of the world. He is a really sweet guy and I feel so bad for him. I DO think people here are more racist than in the US, but it is a subtle racism, and the worst part about it is that the most racist Europeans I know also claim to be the most liberal.

I wouldn't want to date him either. It's not illiberal to not want to marry someone from a different culture. A lonely person from Pakistan can very easily become un-lonely by asking his family to find him a bride.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in Europe. I have a colleague who is originally from Pakistan, and he has a very (the most) popular Muslim name. He is talks a lot about how racist people here are. He is single and lonely, and has been trying to date online for the past year, and last week was telling me about how a lot of women have told him that they don't want to date a person from his part of the world. He is a really sweet guy and I feel so bad for him. I DO think people here are more racist than in the US, but it is a subtle racism, and the worst part about it is that the most racist Europeans I know also claim to be the most liberal.

I wouldn't want to date him either. It's not illiberal to not want to marry someone from a different culture. A lonely person from Pakistan can very easily become un-lonely by asking his family to find him a bride.

What a terrible thing to say. He left Pakistan because he wanted to be a part of multicultural Europe, and he sees and knows many people here who date/are married to people from other countries and cultures. So you think that he should...get a mail order bride from Pakistan? A place he left and never wants to live in again? Should everyone here who is from "another culture" ask their parents to find them mail order brides from home?

He has converted to Catholicism and would like to find someone who is a Christian, not a Muslim. Kind of hard to find back in Pakistan, and he is a really great guy. I encourage him to keep trying, and I hope he meets someone who will give him a chance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in Europe. I have a colleague who is originally from Pakistan, and he has a very (the most) popular Muslim name. He is talks a lot about how racist people here are. He is single and lonely, and has been trying to date online for the past year, and last week was telling me about how a lot of women have told him that they don't want to date a person from his part of the world. He is a really sweet guy and I feel so bad for him. I DO think people here are more racist than in the US, but it is a subtle racism, and the worst part about it is that the most racist Europeans I know also claim to be the most liberal.

I wouldn't want to date him either. It's not illiberal to not want to marry someone from a different culture. A lonely person from Pakistan can very easily become un-lonely by asking his family to find him a bride.

What a terrible thing to say. He left Pakistan because he wanted to be a part of multicultural Europe, and he sees and knows many people here who date/are married to people from other countries and cultures. So you think that he should...get a mail order bride from Pakistan? A place he left and never wants to live in again? Should everyone here who is from "another culture" ask their parents to find them mail order brides from home?

He has converted to Catholicism and would like to find someone who is a Christian, not a Muslim. Kind of hard to find back in Pakistan, and he is a really great guy. I encourage him to keep trying, and I hope he meets someone who will give him a chance.

Well, you left good bits out of his story, didn't you? Then counsel him to change his name to Daniel or Gabriel, and he should do better. If he has a popular Muslim name, then he got a bit of confused advertising going on. Don't blame the ladies for passing on that puzzle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a liberal American currently living in southern (Francophone) Belgium, and was formerly married to a French man, and was close with a group French expats in DC as a result.

Many policies here are liberal and progressive. However, racism/nationalism is strong. Many Southern Europeans emigrated to southern Belgium in the mid-1900s and there's a residue of racism from "whiter" Belgians that affects the children and grandchildren of those Greek and Italian immigrants today. Arabs and Africans? Forget it.

You're calling Belgium "racists" after opening their borders, allowing "refugees" to homestead there, provide them temporary subsistence and allow them to have self-governing zones (No-Go zones)?

FFS, how much more should they have to capitulate to avoid your labeling?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With all of the whining about integration, one should also bear in mind that many of the European muslims that everyone is up in arms over were either not born in Europe or are the first generation born in Europe. If one were to compare this to the reality of immigrants who came to America via Ellis Island at the turn of the century. They didn't suddenly learn English and integrate, either. Folks who are now in their 60s and 70s who had grandparents arrive from Italy and elsewhere via Ellis Island in the late 1800s and early 1900s all have stories of their nonnas et cetera who could only speak broken English up until the day they died. Hundreds of newspapers flourished in all American cities back then, written in Polish, Slovak, Italian, Yiddish, et cetera. Integration isn't something that happens immediately - it takes at least one generation and more often two. And another American lesson to learn is that integration happens even more slowly when foreign populations are ghettoized.

Yet here we are with people standing there tapping their foot, arms crossed, scowling, demanding to know why the immigrants who just arrived in Europe just a couple of years ago haven't yet fully integrated, and worse yet, coming up with contorted prognostications about how they will never integrate. Learn some history, folks.

American immigrants didn't come from countries decimated and subjugated by America for centuries.

American immigrants didn't have to live a country that keeps silent about a recent independence war that slaughtered 700,000 people.

American immigrants did not count on any welfare net.

And the most important part - American immigrants really, really, really wanted to integrate. Poverty was common, anger wasn't.

Many came from areas that are now countries. Those areas were subjugated. No welfare net. Little if any anger. More Italians went back and forth. Which country has the immigrants and keeps silent about a recent independence was that slaughtered 700,000 people? Which countries fought in wars for their own independence? Slamming countries that took in immigrants, migrants, etc isn't productive. All those men migrants. Why aren't they fighting for their own country? We're supposed to die? Need to be set up as a troops of "Hessian" as used by the British against the American Revolutionaries.

[Anonymous]

Yet more terrorism. This time a suicide bomber in Pakistan targeted a park full of women and children, 50+ dead. Speculation is they were targeting Christians celebrating Easter. How are we responsible for that again?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-35908512

Leftists can't ever blame anyone but the west and Israel. They are blind to the evil of others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yet more terrorism. This time a suicide bomber in Pakistan targeted a park full of women and children, 50+ dead. Speculation is they were targeting Christians celebrating Easter. How are we responsible for that again?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-35908512

Leftists can't ever blame anyone but the west and Israel. They are blind to the evil of others.

I didn't hear that the bomber was American or Jewish. Where did you get this information on who is responsible?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do conservatives post straw man questions like this?

Guess the ones posting here like to read all the explanations and rationalizations!

Maybe they'd like you to finally admit that you're full of it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in Europe. I have a colleague who is originally from Pakistan, and he has a very (the most) popular Muslim name. He is talks a lot about how racist people here are. He is single and lonely, and has been trying to date online for the past year, and last week was telling me about how a lot of women have told him that they don't want to date a person from his part of the world. He is a really sweet guy and I feel so bad for him. I DO think people here are more racist than in the US, but it is a subtle racism, and the worst part about it is that the most racist Europeans I know also claim to be the most liberal.

I wouldn't want to date him either. It's not illiberal to not want to marry someone from a different culture. A lonely person from Pakistan can very easily become un-lonely by asking his family to find him a bride.

What a terrible thing to say. He left Pakistan because he wanted to be a part of multicultural Europe, and he sees and knows many people here who date/are married to people from other countries and cultures. So you think that he should...get a mail order bride from Pakistan? A place he left and never wants to live in again? Should everyone here who is from "another culture" ask their parents to find them mail order brides from home?

He has converted to Catholicism and would like to find someone who is a Christian, not a Muslim. Kind of hard to find back in Pakistan, and he is a really great guy. I encourage him to keep trying, and I hope he meets someone who will give him a chance.

OMG, is this for real??? Only in America. Seriously, how fucked up are our Millennials?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because jihadists aren't liberal and have no interest in a multicultural society. So, you have that much in common with them, anyway. They, like you, have a hatred of cultural inclusiveness, banning guns, liberal do whatever you want values.

So, I guess you're more like a terrorist than you thought, eh?

I'm cool with whatever but when you got violence built in to a religion that's not cool

Islam doesn't have violence built into it any more than Christianity. It only takes a few nut jobs in any faith to misappropriate the teachings.

Yes Islam does and the way it is written spurs extremism. When did the last Hindu or Christan tertiary attack occur?

You can't be serious. See Gujarat, Central African Republic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in Europe. I have a colleague who is originally from Pakistan, and he has a very (the most) popular Muslim name. He is talks a lot about how racist people here are. He is single and lonely, and has been trying to date online for the past year, and last week was telling me about how a lot of women have told him that they don't want to date a person from his part of the world. He is a really sweet guy and I feel so bad for him. I DO think people here are more racist than in the US, but it is a subtle racism, and the worst part about it is that the most racist Europeans I know also claim to be the most liberal.

I wouldn't want to date him either. It's not illiberal to not want to marry someone from a different culture. A lonely person from Pakistan can very easily become un-lonely by asking his family to find him a bride.

What a terrible thing to say. He left Pakistan because he wanted to be a part of multicultural Europe, and he sees and knows many people here who date/are married to people from other countries and cultures. So you think that he should...get a mail order bride from Pakistan? A place he left and never wants to live in again? Should everyone here who is from "another culture" ask their parents to find them mail order brides from home?

He has converted to Catholicism and would like to find someone who is a Christian, not a Muslim. Kind of hard to find back in Pakistan, and he is a really great guy. I encourage him to keep trying, and I hope he meets someone who will give him a chance.

He should look at his church activities, book clubs and hobbies. So much better than online dating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yet more terrorism. This time a suicide bomber in Pakistan targeted a park full of women and children, 50+ dead. Speculation is they were targeting Christians celebrating Easter. How are we responsible for that again?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-35908512

Leftists can't ever blame anyone but the west and Israel. They are blind to the evil of others.

I didn't hear that the bomber was American or Jewish. Where did you get this information on who is responsible?

The taliban "spokesman" issued a press release prpudly claiming responsibility and announcing that their intention was to kill Christians celebrating Eazter.