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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]With all of the whining about integration, one should also bear in mind that many of the European muslims that everyone is up in arms over were either not born in Europe or are the first generation born in Europe. If one were to compare this to the reality of immigrants who came to America via Ellis Island at the turn of the century. They didn't suddenly learn English and integrate, either. Folks who are now in their 60s and 70s who had grandparents arrive from Italy and elsewhere via Ellis Island in the late 1800s and early 1900s all have stories of their nonnas et cetera who could only speak broken English up until the day they died. Hundreds of newspapers flourished in all American cities back then, written in Polish, Slovak, Italian, Yiddish, et cetera. Integration isn't something that happens immediately - it takes at least one generation and more often two. And another American lesson to learn is that integration happens even more slowly when foreign populations are ghettoized. Yet here we are with people standing there tapping their foot, arms crossed, scowling, demanding to know why the immigrants who just arrived in Europe just a couple of years ago haven't yet fully integrated, and worse yet, coming up with contorted prognostications about how they will never integrate. Learn some history, folks. [/quote] American immigrants didn't come from countries decimated and subjugated by America for centuries. American immigrants didn't have to live a country that keeps silent about a recent independence war that slaughtered 700,000 people. American immigrants did not count on any welfare net. And the most important part - American immigrants really, really, really wanted to integrate. Poverty was common, anger wasn't. [/quote] Many came from areas that are now countries. Those areas were subjugated. No welfare net. Little if any anger. More Italians went back and forth. Which country has the immigrants and keeps silent about a recent independence was that slaughtered 700,000 people? Which countries fought in wars for their own independence? Slamming countries that took in immigrants, migrants, etc isn't productive. All those men migrants. Why aren't they fighting for their own country? We're supposed to die? Need to be set up as a troops of "Hessian" as used by the British against the American Revolutionaries. [/quote]
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