The People vs. OJ Simpson

[Anonymous]

Really interesting interview with Marcia about the show:
http://www.vulture.com/2016/03/marcia-clark-people-v-oj-simpson-episode-six.html

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Anonymous wrote:I love the way they are handling Marcia Clark - pointing out the ridiculous bullshit she had to deal with, and how sexist things were in the 90s. At least we have social media now to call more things out.

Can you imagine the backlash now if the media or judge commented on a lawyer's outfit and hair like that?

The judge was an utter asshole who didn't deserve to practice law much less be a judge. And at least Johnny Cochrane is dead now. A wife beater who paid off his wife, and I was so livid about his disregard of her childcare situation I wanted to scream. Seriously, F%$& that guy.

Apparently that thing with the box of Tampax really happened to her. I honestly don't see how a person could get up and go to work everyday, between the ex-husband, the opposing lawyers, the media...

Yep, the tampon thing really happened! The standing up in court and saying she had to get home to her kids really happened and so did the nude photos and the (nearly) crying in court! It's unbelievable. Vanity Fair (i think) is fact-checking every episode and it's pretty darn close to factual every time.

Can you briefly say what happened in each of these cases. I'm watching On Demand and am behind but I'm curious about these things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Really interesting interview with Marcia about the show:
http://www.vulture.com/2016/03/marcia-clark-people-v-oj-simpson-episode-six.html

Thanks for posting. Really interesting interview.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love the way they are handling Marcia Clark - pointing out the ridiculous bullshit she had to deal with, and how sexist things were in the 90s. At least we have social media now to call more things out.

Can you imagine the backlash now if the media or judge commented on a lawyer's outfit and hair like that?

The judge was an utter asshole who didn't deserve to practice law much less be a judge. And at least Johnny Cochrane is dead now. A wife beater who paid off his wife, and I was so livid about his disregard of her childcare situation I wanted to scream. Seriously, F%$& that guy.

Apparently that thing with the box of Tampax really happened to her. I honestly don't see how a person could get up and go to work everyday, between the ex-husband, the opposing lawyers, the media...

Yep, the tampon thing really happened! The standing up in court and saying she had to get home to her kids really happened and so did the nude photos and the (nearly) crying in court! It's unbelievable. Vanity Fair (i think) is fact-checking every episode and it's pretty darn close to factual every time.

Can you briefly say what happened in each of these cases. I'm watching On Demand and am behind but I'm curious about these things.

1. Tampon - Marcia was buying tampons at the grocery store and the male clerk said "going to be a rough week in court for everyone, huh?"
2. Ex-husband - Marcia said in court that she couldn't stay late one day because she had to get her kids. She was going through divorce and custody battle with husband over children. She got flak from Cochran and the Judge but they didn't maker her stay late. Husband went on TV and gave an interview to say that she had babysitters with the kids and could have stayed late.
3. Nude photos - a tabloid published a nude photo of her from a trip she had taken with her first husband (not the one from teh custody battle). She found out about it during a break in the day of the trial and got back to trial and was nearly in tears. Apparently, Judge Ito saw her welling up at the table and without saying anything, just recessed the trial until the next day. She was grateful.
4. Tabloids constantly commented on her hair, her suits, her appearance. Radio shows took polls on whether she was a bitch or a babe.

It was all pretty awful for her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love the way they are handling Marcia Clark - pointing out the ridiculous bullshit she had to deal with, and how sexist things were in the 90s. At least we have social media now to call more things out.

Can you imagine the backlash now if the media or judge commented on a lawyer's outfit and hair like that?

The judge was an utter asshole who didn't deserve to practice law much less be a judge. And at least Johnny Cochrane is dead now. A wife beater who paid off his wife, and I was so livid about his disregard of her childcare situation I wanted to scream. Seriously, F%$& that guy.

Exactly! Except, I don't know if JC really beat his wife and he was a talented lawyer.

When I watched the trial I couldn't stand the comments on her appearance. For god's sake, she wasn't rich, she wasn't a celebrity. She was just a regular person doing her job. We all dressed like that. Business casual wasn't a thing at that time (not that she could have dressed casually in court anyway) and online shopping hadn't even started. Amazon came online in what, 1995, and for a long time they only sold books.

One thing I thought they brushed over on the show was the testimony by Nicole's sister. That really struck me at the time. I don't recall how long her testimony lasted but it seemed like a long time. She told the story of the history of abuse Nicole suffered at the hands of OJ. It was heartbreaking. I think that's when they brought in the pictures of the bruises Nicole had stored in a safe. On the show I think JC made a comment that her crying sounded manufactured and it actually helped the defense, but it didn't seem that way to me at the time.

[Anonymous]

Nude photos - a tabloid published a nude photo of her from a trip she had taken with her first husband (not the one from teh custody battle).

Just to add to this, and this wasn't in the show - it was actually the first ex-husband's MOM who sold the naked photo of her to the tabloids. First XH was in a coma at the time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love the way they are handling Marcia Clark - pointing out the ridiculous bullshit she had to deal with, and how sexist things were in the 90s. At least we have social media now to call more things out.

Can you imagine the backlash now if the media or judge commented on a lawyer's outfit and hair like that?

The judge was an utter asshole who didn't deserve to practice law much less be a judge. And at least Johnny Cochrane is dead now. A wife beater who paid off his wife, and I was so livid about his disregard of her childcare situation I wanted to scream. Seriously, F%$& that guy.

Apparently that thing with the box of Tampax really happened to her. I honestly don't see how a person could get up and go to work everyday, between the ex-husband, the opposing lawyers, the media...

Yep, the tampon thing really happened! The standing up in court and saying she had to get home to her kids really happened and so did the nude photos and the (nearly) crying in court! It's unbelievable. Vanity Fair (i think) is fact-checking every episode and it's pretty darn close to factual every time.

Can you briefly say what happened in each of these cases. I'm watching On Demand and am behind but I'm curious about these things.

1. Tampon - Marcia was buying tampons at the grocery store and the male clerk said "going to be a rough week in court for everyone, huh?"
2. Ex-husband - Marcia said in court that she couldn't stay late one day because she had to get her kids. She was going through divorce and custody battle with husband over children. She got flak from Cochran and the Judge but they didn't maker her stay late. Husband went on TV and gave an interview to say that she had babysitters with the kids and could have stayed late.
3. Nude photos - a tabloid published a nude photo of her from a trip she had taken with her first husband (not the one from teh custody battle). She found out about it during a break in the day of the trial and got back to trial and was nearly in tears. Apparently, Judge Ito saw her welling up at the table and without saying anything, just recessed the trial until the next day. She was grateful.
4. Tabloids constantly commented on her hair, her suits, her appearance. Radio shows took polls on whether she was a bitch or a babe.

It was all pretty awful for her.

In regards to #2 -- Also, she called her husband to take care of the kids AFTER her boss also guilted her in to staying at work. So, she had it coming from all sides.
She was really treated like $hit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Nude photos - a tabloid published a nude photo of her from a trip she had taken with her first husband (not the one from teh custody battle).

Just to add to this, and this wasn't in the show - it was actually the first ex-husband's MOM who sold the naked photo of her to the tabloids. First XH was in a coma at the time.

Oh my god, that's evil.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We saw the first episode as well.
Alan Dershowitz was interviewed last night. One thing I found interesting is that he said the attorneys should have NEVER released the fact that OJ failed a polygraph. He was quite stunned that happened. There were a few other things he had to say about the series, but when asked if he thought OJ had done it, he said he we never tell his opinion.
He also outlined some of the many mistakes the prosecution made - the glove, the “planted” blood, putting Mark Fuhrman on the stand.
It seems that he was inferring that the defense didn’t “win” the case, but that the state lost it. I would concur having watched most of the trial.

ITA. And the fact that Dershowitz would not neither confirm nor deny tells you something (as it is obviously not illegal for him to confirm or deny).

He doesn't with any of his clients. And btw, a good criminal defense attorney wouldn't. Now a fly by night, hit and miss attorney, just might.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love the way they are handling Marcia Clark - pointing out the ridiculous bullshit she had to deal with, and how sexist things were in the 90s. At least we have social media now to call more things out.

Can you imagine the backlash now if the media or judge commented on a lawyer's outfit and hair like that?

The judge was an utter asshole who didn't deserve to practice law much less be a judge. And at least Johnny Cochrane is dead now. A wife beater who paid off his wife, and I was so livid about his disregard of her childcare situation I wanted to scream. Seriously, F%$& that guy.

Exactly! Except, I don't know if JC really beat his wife and he was a talented lawyer.

When I watched the trial I couldn't stand the comments on her appearance. For god's sake, she wasn't rich, she wasn't a celebrity. She was just a regular person doing her job. We all dressed like that. Business casual wasn't a thing at that time (not that she could have dressed casually in court anyway) and online shopping hadn't even started. Amazon came online in what, 1995, and for a long time they only sold books.

One thing I thought they brushed over on the show was the testimony by Nicole's sister. That really struck me at the time. I don't recall how long her testimony lasted but it seemed like a long time. She told the story of the history of abuse Nicole suffered at the hands of OJ. It was heartbreaking. I think that's when they brought in the pictures of the bruises Nicole had stored in a safe. On the show I think JC made a comment that her crying sounded manufactured and it actually helped the defense, but it didn't seem that way to me at the time.

It sounded manufactured because the entire Brown family was living off of OJs money. The few times Nicole trod to leave, her family would talk her into going back. He bought her parents a hertz dealership, and Denise as dating one of OJs friends. After the cross examination it felt like the family also used Nicole.