The People vs. OJ Simpson

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Courtney Vance has been an actor some 20+ years and is married to Angela Bassett and you don't know his name?


Thank you!


People, I mean Mr. Vance no harm. I think he's great. I haven't seen Hunt for Red October or ER, the 2 things mentioned in this thread that he's been in. I will know his name forevermore, forgive me.


Anonymous
Dateline had a long piece on the case last night. I never knew before that having OJ try on the glove was Darden's idea. That was a Rick Perry level "oops" there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Dateline had a long piece on the case last night. I never knew before that having OJ try on the glove was Darden's idea. That was a Rick Perry level "oops" there.


I just found that out recently as well. Watching this show, I kinda feel bad for Chris Darden. He seems like such a GOAT in this.
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone notice the jail time discussion between JC and OJ about OJ not knowing many "black people" and why? THAT was eye opening. I

am wondering if most successful AA people feel this way (or perhaps this is a different thread - hopefully one that would not be stifled). The topic is interesting.


The show features a number of successful African American men who followed different paths in life.


It does (and I know many myself). OJ (in the show) specifically talks about "people riding on his coat tails" and (AA people) pestering him for money. This is what I was referring to. Not any preconceived notions here - just the idea that OJ surrounded himself with mostly white people, but that fact was deliberately hidden from the jury, such as when JC went into OJ's house and added "blackness" (art and photos) from his personal collection - as JC called it. Again, this is referring to how OJ was depicted in the show - not anything else.

Anonymous
I felt bad for Marcia last night. Gosh they were hard on her. People can be so mean.

With that being said, her hairstylist set her up for failure! She left out with the same hairstyle! It actually looked worse after the visit because it looked like a jheri curl.
Anonymous
I have a new found respect for Marcia. Like she said in the last episode, she wasn't ready for all the horrible publicity outside the courtroom and sexism in the courtroom.

And the "new" hairstyle - I think the stylist made it look better at the salon. Marcia styled it the only way she knew how.
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Anonymous wrote:Connie Britton as Faye Resnick?? I still can't wrap my head around that miscasting. Resnick is black.


Learned a new term during the program: a "Brentwood hello."


I didn't realise Faye was black. I also agree on the miscasting. It seems resnik would've been a lot younger at that time.


She isn't black. But she is extremely fugly (inside and out) so I am guessing they had a hard time casting her. I think Connie Britton has her mannerisms down though.
Anonymous
I was a student at USC during this time and I'm surprised I made it through my senior year. We were all glued to the trial. I had several classes where we just sat and watched it.

And here I am glued to this show.

What is it about this case that makes you not want to look away?
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Anonymous wrote:I was a student at USC during this time and I'm surprised I made it through my senior year. We were all glued to the trial. I had several classes where we just sat and watched it.

And here I am glued to this show.

What is it about this case that makes you not want to look away?


Glue?
Anonymous
The part that bothers me is that Marcia was almost on her own - yet OJ had unlimited funds, which resulted in a table full (and then some) of representation.

Every time someone tried to warn Marcia, it fell on deaf ears, because Marcia really did believe that the jurors were not that stupid.

Infuriating. Love her or hate her, she did what she could. At least that is what I keep trying to tell myself.

I was not able to watch the trial when it happened, as I was at work, and did not yet have a DVR (did they exist back then?). I have read Darden's book, looking for closure, for myself. I would recommend it.

I hated Lee Bailey at the time, but the way he is portrayed in the show makes me like him. I really can not stand Shapiro and Kardashian - I feel like they knew all along OJ shouldn't be getting away with murder. At least, this is the feeling I am getting from their portrayal (so it must be a good portrayal?).

PP - I can only imagine being a USC student, at the time!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We saw the first episode as well.
Alan Dershowitz was interviewed last night. One thing I found interesting is that he said the attorneys should have NEVER released the fact that OJ failed a polygraph. He was quite stunned that happened. There were a few other things he had to say about the series, but when asked if he thought OJ had done it, he said he we never tell his opinion.
He also outlined some of the many mistakes the prosecution made - the glove, the “planted” blood, putting Mark Fuhrman on the stand.
It seems that he was inferring that the defense didn’t “win” the case, but that the state lost it. I would concur having watched most of the trial.


ITA. And the fact that Dershowitz would not neither confirm nor deny tells you something (as it is obviously not illegal for him to confirm or deny).
Anonymous
I love the way they are handling Marcia Clark - pointing out the ridiculous bullshit she had to deal with, and how sexist things were in the 90s. At least we have social media now to call more things out.

Can you imagine the backlash now if the media or judge commented on a lawyer's outfit and hair like that?

The judge was an utter asshole who didn't deserve to practice law much less be a judge. And at least Johnny Cochrane is dead now. A wife beater who paid off his wife, and I was so livid about his disregard of her childcare situation I wanted to scream. Seriously, F%$& that guy.
Anonymous
We are completely hooked on this show. The last episode about Marcia just killed me. That poor woman! Going through a divorce and a custody battle while on TV for the trial of the century and getting excoriated for her looks all at the same time. I don't think I could have survived all of that.

I think she did about as well as she could and just didn't stand a chance given the media circus and the racial stuff. It does seem like putting Furman on the stand was a horrible idea but I don't even know if keeping him off the stand would have saved the case. I get the sense that she was actually a really good trial lawyer, she just missed the boat on this particular case. The cops and all their missteps with the evidence did not help either. It really is just fascinating, though, even 20 years later.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I love the way they are handling Marcia Clark - pointing out the ridiculous bullshit she had to deal with, and how sexist things were in the 90s. At least we have social media now to call more things out.

Can you imagine the backlash now if the media or judge commented on a lawyer's outfit and hair like that?

The judge was an utter asshole who didn't deserve to practice law much less be a judge. And at least Johnny Cochrane is dead now. A wife beater who paid off his wife, and I was so livid about his disregard of her childcare situation I wanted to scream. Seriously, F%$& that guy.


Apparently that thing with the box of Tampax really happened to her. I honestly don't see how a person could get up and go to work everyday, between the ex-husband, the opposing lawyers, the media...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I love the way they are handling Marcia Clark - pointing out the ridiculous bullshit she had to deal with, and how sexist things were in the 90s. At least we have social media now to call more things out.

Can you imagine the backlash now if the media or judge commented on a lawyer's outfit and hair like that?

The judge was an utter asshole who didn't deserve to practice law much less be a judge. And at least Johnny Cochrane is dead now. A wife beater who paid off his wife, and I was so livid about his disregard of her childcare situation I wanted to scream. Seriously, F%$& that guy.


Apparently that thing with the box of Tampax really happened to her. I honestly don't see how a person could get up and go to work everyday, between the ex-husband, the opposing lawyers, the media...


Yep, the tampon thing really happened! The standing up in court and saying she had to get home to her kids really happened and so did the nude photos and the (nearly) crying in court! It's unbelievable. Vanity Fair (i think) is fact-checking every episode and it's pretty darn close to factual every time.
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