Trump and him not calling BS on his supporters

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since when is that any candidate's job?

Since always if they wanted to be seen as leaders.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:Who are you to tell Trump what he must say to someone talking with him? talk about delusional ...

I didn't tell him what he must say. I just pointed out what he didn't say and what he did. Why didn't you answer my question about what you would have said?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:It wasn't clear from the video that Trump actually heard everything the guy said (which is what someone in his campaign also said). I'd give him the benefit of the doubt here.

This is easily handled by saying, "I didn't hear everything and of course I believe Obama is a Christian and a Muslim and Muslims in America are not a problem and we are not interested in getting rid of them". But, of course, that's not Trump's style. He likes to do the old "I didn't hear what he said (wink, wink)" game.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's hilarious that after 8 years of playing footsie with these views (John McCain's comments being the noteworthy exception, but still the exception that proves the rule), the GOP establishment is trying to take down Trump for saying these things.

Of course they are ridiculous, stupid, racist, offensive statements but that's not because Trump is saying them-- they've been true the whole time the tea baggers were saying them too.

Don't be a simpleton.

They are not taking Trump down for saying this ....... they are using it as an excuse to try and take him down. The odds are they will strengthen his support.

Did you really think after reading my post that I thought the GOP establishment was being sincere, or that I said they had succeeded? You might want to be careful about throwing around the word simpleton.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/don-lemon-birthers-donald-trump-cnn_55fbb618e4b00310edf69581

At a rally the day after the debates, a supporter in the crowd asked what he's going to do about the "Muslim problem", stating that we currently have one in the White House. Never mind that President Obama has repeatedly stated he's a Christian; Don Lemon made a great point on his show last night - what does it matter?

What will be the straw that finally breaks the camel's back?

No fan of Trump, but it was the Hillary campaign in 2008 that got the Muslim rumors flying the first time. Pretty rich for them to feign indignation now.

[Anonymous]

As the PP said, it was Hillary Clinton's campaign that started the whole birther/Muslim innuendo and she now has the audacity to make a big deal about it.


Obama campaign manager David Plouffe accused the Clinton campaign Monday of "shameful offensive fear-mongering" by circulating a photo as an attempted smear.

Plouffe was reacting to a banner headline on the Drudge Report saying that aides to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) had e-mailed a photo calling attention to the African roots of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.).

And this is not from a right wing site but the very liberal Daily Kos.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/18/1422526/-Hillary-Clinton-s-stunning-hypocrisy-displayed-in-tweet-over-Donald-Trump

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As the PP said, it was Hillary Clinton's campaign that started the whole birther/Muslim innuendo and she now has the audacity to make a big deal about it.


Obama campaign manager David Plouffe accused the Clinton campaign Monday of "shameful offensive fear-mongering" by circulating a photo as an attempted smear.

Plouffe was reacting to a banner headline on the Drudge Report saying that aides to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) had e-mailed a photo calling attention to the African roots of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.).

And this is not from a right wing site but the very liberal Daily Kos.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/18/1422526/-Hillary-Clinton-s-stunning-hypocrisy-displayed-in-tweet-over-Donald-Trump

It's not the Hillary campaign making a big deal about this. It's everyone making a big deal about this. Because it is a big deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As the PP said, it was Hillary Clinton's campaign that started the whole birther/Muslim innuendo and she now has the audacity to make a big deal about it.


Obama campaign manager David Plouffe accused the Clinton campaign Monday of "shameful offensive fear-mongering" by circulating a photo as an attempted smear.

Plouffe was reacting to a banner headline on the Drudge Report saying that aides to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) had e-mailed a photo calling attention to the African roots of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.).

And this is not from a right wing site but the very liberal Daily Kos.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/18/1422526/-Hillary-Clinton-s-stunning-hypocrisy-displayed-in-tweet-over-Donald-Trump

Assholes abound in any campaign. Fortunately, that isn't her official position on Muslims and Mexicans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As the PP said, it was Hillary Clinton's campaign that started the whole birther/Muslim innuendo and she now has the audacity to make a big deal about it.


Obama campaign manager David Plouffe accused the Clinton campaign Monday of "shameful offensive fear-mongering" by circulating a photo as an attempted smear.

Plouffe was reacting to a banner headline on the Drudge Report saying that aides to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) had e-mailed a photo calling attention to the African roots of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.).

And this is not from a right wing site but the very liberal Daily Kos.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/18/1422526/-Hillary-Clinton-s-stunning-hypocrisy-displayed-in-tweet-over-Donald-Trump

Assholes abound in any campaign. Fortunately, that isn't her official position on Muslims and Mexicans.

Did she fire anyone when this happened? I assume she would have made sure that any asshole who spread such vicious rumors would be fired.

BTW, I am a liberal and would never support Trump but the sheer phoniness of HRC on this issue is stunning. She is the last person who should get on her high-horse about this issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As the PP said, it was Hillary Clinton's campaign that started the whole birther/Muslim innuendo and she now has the audacity to make a big deal about it.


Obama campaign manager David Plouffe accused the Clinton campaign Monday of "shameful offensive fear-mongering" by circulating a photo as an attempted smear.

Plouffe was reacting to a banner headline on the Drudge Report saying that aides to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) had e-mailed a photo calling attention to the African roots of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.).

And this is not from a right wing site but the very liberal Daily Kos.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/18/1422526/-Hillary-Clinton-s-stunning-hypocrisy-displayed-in-tweet-over-Donald-Trump

Assholes abound in any campaign. Fortunately, that isn't her official position on Muslims and Mexicans.

Did she fire anyone when this happened? I assume she would have made sure that any asshole who spread such vicious rumors would be fired.

BTW, I am a liberal and would never support Trump but the sheer phoniness of HRC on this issue is stunning. She is the last person who should get on her high-horse about this issue.

Not so fast. This is what the campaign had to say:

I just want to make it very clear that we were not aware of it, the campaign didn't sanction it and don't know anything about it," Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson told reporters. "None of us have seen the email in question."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/feb/25/barackobama.hillaryclinton

The source who claimed to receive said photo from the Clinton campaign was the Drudge Report. Oddly, he did not name the staffer involved. Wonder why.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As the PP said, it was Hillary Clinton's campaign that started the whole birther/Muslim innuendo and she now has the audacity to make a big deal about it.


Obama campaign manager David Plouffe accused the Clinton campaign Monday of "shameful offensive fear-mongering" by circulating a photo as an attempted smear.

Plouffe was reacting to a banner headline on the Drudge Report saying that aides to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) had e-mailed a photo calling attention to the African roots of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.).

And this is not from a right wing site but the very liberal Daily Kos.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/18/1422526/-Hillary-Clinton-s-stunning-hypocrisy-displayed-in-tweet-over-Donald-Trump

Assholes abound in any campaign. Fortunately, that isn't her official position on Muslims and Mexicans.

Did she fire anyone when this happened? I assume she would have made sure that any asshole who spread such vicious rumors would be fired.

BTW, I am a liberal and would never support Trump but the sheer phoniness of HRC on this issue is stunning. She is the last person who should get on her high-horse about this issue.

Not so fast. This is what the campaign had to say:

I just want to make it very clear that we were not aware of it, the campaign didn't sanction it and don't know anything about it," Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson told reporters. "None of us have seen the email in question."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/feb/25/barackobama.hillaryclinton

The source who claimed to receive said photo from the Clinton campaign was the Drudge Report. Oddly, he did not name the staffer involved. Wonder why.

The very article you linked has the headline: "Clinton aides claim Obama photo wasn't intended as a smear" which pretty much implies someone in the campaign was involved in the smear.

There are other references in the linked article that pretty much say the same thing. For example:

The Clinton team hit back at the criticism today, saying Obama's team had turned the picture into a row to distract attention from a foreign policy speech she gave today.

Maggie Williams, campaign manager for Clinton, played down the significance of the picture. "If Barack Obama's campaign wants to suggest that a photo of him wearing traditional Somali clothing is divisive, they should be ashamed. Hillary Clinton has worn the traditional clothing of countries she has visited and had those photos published widely."

It would be a stretch based on these comments to say they did not have a role in this and that it was something the Drudge Report drummed up.

What are the odds the MSM would actually ask HRC as to the role of her campaign in starting this whole dismal and disgusting smear even as she pontificates about Trump letting the comment slide?

[Anonymous]

With the new Muslim controversy from last night, all focus on the debate is over. Reporters going crazy over trump again. Trump news non stop on TV. I predict trumps numbers go up again.

[Anonymous]

Last time Meghan kelly controversy right after the first debate, this time the Muslim/Obama situation. Watch trumps numbers rise!!!!

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It wasn't clear from the video that Trump actually heard everything the guy said (which is what someone in his campaign also said). I'd give him the benefit of the doubt here.

This is easily handled by saying, "I didn't hear everything and of course I believe Obama is a Christian and a Muslim and Muslims in America are not a problem and we are not interested in getting rid of them". But, of course, that's not Trump's style. He likes to do the old "I didn't hear what he said (wink, wink)" game.

But some ARE a problem, i.e. September 11th, Boston Bombing, Ft. Hood shooting, shooting in TX at the draw Mohammed event, etc. Should he lie and pretend that some Muslims are NOT a problem? Obama says he's a Christian. I'm willing to take that at face value. I can see though, why so many feel he's Muslim, or VERY empathetic to Islam, given (a) his upbringing (b) his close relationships with the Brotherhood and others (c) his animosity towards Israel (d) his comments about the call to prayer. And that's but a few examples.

He also picked a church with a very controversial leader. That, in itself, speaks volumes.

[Anonymous]

Some Americans are a problem. Timothy McVeigh,