Want to raise kids Catholic, have some issues with Church

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Anonymous wrote:So you don't want kids to learn about slavery either then? Beating, lynching, hanging let's leave that out. Too gruesome.

Also war.

I know. And don't forget the Holocoust. Too much. Oh, but let kids watch R-rated movies and play video games all the time. That is much less jarring to their precious sensibilities than learning about history or Catholicism.

???? What the heck???

I now have really heard it ALL.

People are NUTS.

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I just asked him. He said "there is a crucifix in church?"

I said, "yes, it is right behind the alter, behind the priest"

He said, "good to know"

I said you know it has Jesus nailed to the cross and there is blood on the crucifix ... Do think that is scary for little kids?

He said, "no"

Sort of illustrates the point that Catholic kids are so used to it they don't notice it. Also sounds like your kid is not so impressed with Jesus' great sacrifice

lame.

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I just asked him. He said "there is a crucifix in church?"

I said, "yes, it is right behind the alter, behind the priest"

He said, "good to know"

I said you know it has Jesus nailed to the cross and there is blood on the crucifix ... Do think that is scary for little kids?

He said, "no"

Sort of illustrates the point that Catholic kids are so used to it they don't notice it. Also sounds like your kid is not so impressed with Jesus' great sacrifice

I think it illustrates adults making mountains out of mole hills.

I agree he is very unimpressed by Jesus's great sacrifice and more impressed with donuts and pancakes after mass and seeing his friends.

The nightly news is way more gruesome.

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I just asked him. He said "there is a crucifix in church?"

I said, "yes, it is right behind the alter, behind the priest"

He said, "good to know"

I said you know it has Jesus nailed to the cross and there is blood on the crucifix ... Do think that is scary for little kids?

He said, "no"

Sort of illustrates the point that Catholic kids are so used to it they don't notice it. Also sounds like your kid is not so impressed with Jesus' great sacrifice

I think it illustrates adults making mountains out of mole hills.

I agree he is very unimpressed by Jesus's great sacrifice and more impressed with donuts and pancakes after mass and seeing his friends.

The nightly news is way more gruesome.

+1

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I'm not Catholic. However, my Catholic friends rarely attend mass, vote pro-choice and pro-gay marriage, and use birth control. Regardless of your feelings on those things, that's hardly hard core.

Oh my gosh you are dense, read the "catholics are hardcore" in context again, you dipshit

LOL, you're why I don't like most Catholics.

"you're why I don't like most (Catholics, blacks, senior citizens, 1 %ers, postal workers, etc.)"

Nice group bias.

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I'm not Catholic. However, my Catholic friends rarely attend mass, vote pro-choice and pro-gay marriage, and use birth control. Regardless of your feelings on those things, that's hardly hard core.

Oh my gosh you are dense, read the "catholics are hardcore" in context again, you dipshit

LOL, you're why I don't like most Catholics.

"you're why I don't like most (Catholics, blacks, senior citizens, 1 %ers, postal workers, etc.)"

Nice group bias.

+1 People have no problem being biased against Catholics.

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Anonymous wrote:I am so tired of folks who whine about the Catholic Church and yet no so little about it... If their yoga teacher told them to read a book about Vishnu, they would do it, but they prefer to bloviate about the Church rather than actually see what it is like.

there are PLENTY of Catholic parishes where OP would be perfectly comfortable, assuming that is that OP actually has some bona fide interest in attending a church (as opposed to kvetching).

Is there a listing of Catholic Churches that do not have Crucifixes? I once saw one in VA that had a huge risen (or perhaps rising) Christ on the Altar. Don't remember its name -- was there for a concert. The statue was completely dressed, in long robes.

This is St. Luke's in McLean. But the focus is still the same in that parish. It is a hard-core Catholic parish. I grew up in it. I am glad it gave me a solid grounding my faith.
This conversation has taken the weirdest turn. I had no idea that Protestants were so squeamish about this. I feel like I am having a conversation with my 2-year-old who doesn't like onions, or something similarly childish and illogical. Like, spiders. Or, ooh, bugs. Grow up, people, and like a previous poster said, do some reading and educating yourself about Catholicism before you bloviate about it. People always say they like to have "open minds" and be "liberal" and "accepting of those who think differently" until it comes to the Catholic Church. It's so crazy to me.

Squeamish? comparing a not liking to see a man nailed to a cross to an 2 year old not liking onions? Seems quite out of touch to me.

What if Christ had been executed in the twentieth century? -- would you feel OK about wearing a pendent with a tiny man tied to an electric chair? What if it were in different historical times and he was tied to a stake with flames engulfing him or leaned over a chopping block with his head freshly removed? Feeling squeamish yet?

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I'm not Catholic. However, my Catholic friends rarely attend mass, vote pro-choice and pro-gay marriage, and use birth control. Regardless of your feelings on those things, that's hardly hard core.

Oh my gosh you are dense, read the "catholics are hardcore" in context again, you dipshit

LOL, you're why I don't like most Catholics.

"you're why I don't like most (Catholics, blacks, senior citizens, 1 %ers, postal workers, etc.)"

Nice group bias.

+1 People have no problem being biased against Catholics.

Right. And we're the hateful, judgmental ones.

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Anonymous wrote:I am so tired of folks who whine about the Catholic Church and yet no so little about it... If their yoga teacher told them to read a book about Vishnu, they would do it, but they prefer to bloviate about the Church rather than actually see what it is like.

there are PLENTY of Catholic parishes where OP would be perfectly comfortable, assuming that is that OP actually has some bona fide interest in attending a church (as opposed to kvetching).

Is there a listing of Catholic Churches that do not have Crucifixes? I once saw one in VA that had a huge risen (or perhaps rising) Christ on the Altar. Don't remember its name -- was there for a concert. The statue was completely dressed, in long robes.

This is St. Luke's in McLean. But the focus is still the same in that parish. It is a hard-core Catholic parish. I grew up in it. I am glad it gave me a solid grounding my faith.
This conversation has taken the weirdest turn. I had no idea that Protestants were so squeamish about this. I feel like I am having a conversation with my 2-year-old who doesn't like onions, or something similarly childish and illogical. Like, spiders. Or, ooh, bugs. Grow up, people, and like a previous poster said, do some reading and educating yourself about Catholicism before you bloviate about it. People always say they like to have "open minds" and be "liberal" and "accepting of those who think differently" until it comes to the Catholic Church. It's so crazy to me.

Squeamish? comparing a not liking to see a man nailed to a cross to an 2 year old not liking onions? Seems quite out of touch to me.

What if Christ had been executed in the twentieth century? -- would you feel OK about wearing a pendent with a tiny man tied to an electric chair? What if it were in different historical times and he was tied to a stake with flames engulfing him or leaned over a chopping block with his head freshly removed? Feeling squeamish yet?

It is clear that you have more problems with Catholicism than merely this issue. Unless you address your other things, you will feel this way towards the crucifix. I encourage you to delve more deeply into Catholic reading, scripture; perhaps meet with a priest and speak to him about this; and figure out why this bothers you so. I am glad you are pursuing it and not just squelching it. I feel you are searching for answers and perhaps what you are seeking is right at the heart of the Holy Catholic Church.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am so tired of folks who whine about the Catholic Church and yet no so little about it... If their yoga teacher told them to read a book about Vishnu, they would do it, but they prefer to bloviate about the Church rather than actually see what it is like.

there are PLENTY of Catholic parishes where OP would be perfectly comfortable, assuming that is that OP actually has some bona fide interest in attending a church (as opposed to kvetching).

Is there a listing of Catholic Churches that do not have Crucifixes? I once saw one in VA that had a huge risen (or perhaps rising) Christ on the Altar. Don't remember its name -- was there for a concert. The statue was completely dressed, in long robes.

There are some catholic churches that have the risen Christ instead of the typical crucifix. I don't think there is a list. St. Mark in Vienna is one of them.

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I'm not Catholic. However, my Catholic friends rarely attend mass, vote pro-choice and pro-gay marriage, and use birth control. Regardless of your feelings on those things, that's hardly hard core.

Oh my gosh you are dense, read the "catholics are hardcore" in context again, you dipshit

LOL, you're why I don't like most Catholics.

"you're why I don't like most (Catholics, blacks, senior citizens, 1 %ers, postal workers, etc.)"

Nice group bias.

+1 People have no problem being biased against Catholics.

Or lots of other groups. Catholics are not special in this way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am so tired of folks who whine about the Catholic Church and yet no so little about it... If their yoga teacher told them to read a book about Vishnu, they would do it, but they prefer to bloviate about the Church rather than actually see what it is like.

there are PLENTY of Catholic parishes where OP would be perfectly comfortable, assuming that is that OP actually has some bona fide interest in attending a church (as opposed to kvetching).

Is there a listing of Catholic Churches that do not have Crucifixes? I once saw one in VA that had a huge risen (or perhaps rising) Christ on the Altar. Don't remember its name -- was there for a concert. The statue was completely dressed, in long robes.

This is St. Luke's in McLean. But the focus is still the same in that parish. It is a hard-core Catholic parish. I grew up in it. I am glad it gave me a solid grounding my faith.
This conversation has taken the weirdest turn. I had no idea that Protestants were so squeamish about this. I feel like I am having a conversation with my 2-year-old who doesn't like onions, or something similarly childish and illogical. Like, spiders. Or, ooh, bugs. Grow up, people, and like a previous poster said, do some reading and educating yourself about Catholicism before you bloviate about it. People always say they like to have "open minds" and be "liberal" and "accepting of those who think differently" until it comes to the Catholic Church. It's so crazy to me.

Squeamish? comparing a not liking to see a man nailed to a cross to an 2 year old not liking onions? Seems quite out of touch to me.

What if Christ had been executed in the twentieth century? -- would you feel OK about wearing a pendent with a tiny man tied to an electric chair? What if it were in different historical times and he was tied to a stake with flames engulfing him or leaned over a chopping block with his head freshly removed? Feeling squeamish yet?

But Christ didn't die in the 20th century. He was crucified. And if you spend any time from a young age onward being exposed to religion, art, history, culture, it shouldn't be a new shocking image.

I almost applaud you for thinking you can discredit the crucifix after all his time ... here .. on DCUM.

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Anonymous wrote:I am so tired of folks who whine about the Catholic Church and yet no so little about it... If their yoga teacher told them to read a book about Vishnu, they would do it, but they prefer to bloviate about the Church rather than actually see what it is like.

there are PLENTY of Catholic parishes where OP would be perfectly comfortable, assuming that is that OP actually has some bona fide interest in attending a church (as opposed to kvetching).

Is there a listing of Catholic Churches that do not have Crucifixes? I once saw one in VA that had a huge risen (or perhaps rising) Christ on the Altar. Don't remember its name -- was there for a concert. The statue was completely dressed, in long robes.

This is St. Luke's in McLean. But the focus is still the same in that parish. It is a hard-core Catholic parish. I grew up in it. I am glad it gave me a solid grounding my faith.
This conversation has taken the weirdest turn. I had no idea that Protestants were so squeamish about this. I feel like I am having a conversation with my 2-year-old who doesn't like onions, or something similarly childish and illogical. Like, spiders. Or, ooh, bugs. Grow up, people, and like a previous poster said, do some reading and educating yourself about Catholicism before you bloviate about it. People always say they like to have "open minds" and be "liberal" and "accepting of those who think differently" until it comes to the Catholic Church. It's so crazy to me.

Squeamish? comparing a not liking to see a man nailed to a cross to an 2 year old not liking onions? Seems quite out of touch to me.

What if Christ had been executed in the twentieth century? -- would you feel OK about wearing a pendent with a tiny man tied to an electric chair? What if it were in different historical times and he was tied to a stake with flames engulfing him or leaned over a chopping block with his head freshly removed? Feeling squeamish yet?

It is clear that you have more problems with Catholicism than merely this issue. Unless you address your other things, you will feel this way towards the crucifix. I encourage you to delve more deeply into Catholic reading, scripture; perhaps meet with a priest and speak to him about this; and figure out why this bothers you so. I am glad you are pursuing it and not just squelching it. I feel you are searching for answers and perhaps what you are seeking is right at the heart of the Holy Catholic Church.

What do you have to say about the manner of Christ's death and it possibly making a person feel squeamish?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am so tired of folks who whine about the Catholic Church and yet no so little about it... If their yoga teacher told them to read a book about Vishnu, they would do it, but they prefer to bloviate about the Church rather than actually see what it is like.

there are PLENTY of Catholic parishes where OP would be perfectly comfortable, assuming that is that OP actually has some bona fide interest in attending a church (as opposed to kvetching).

Is there a listing of Catholic Churches that do not have Crucifixes? I once saw one in VA that had a huge risen (or perhaps rising) Christ on the Altar. Don't remember its name -- was there for a concert. The statue was completely dressed, in long robes.

This is St. Luke's in McLean. But the focus is still the same in that parish. It is a hard-core Catholic parish. I grew up in it. I am glad it gave me a solid grounding my faith.
This conversation has taken the weirdest turn. I had no idea that Protestants were so squeamish about this. I feel like I am having a conversation with my 2-year-old who doesn't like onions, or something similarly childish and illogical. Like, spiders. Or, ooh, bugs. Grow up, people, and like a previous poster said, do some reading and educating yourself about Catholicism before you bloviate about it. People always say they like to have "open minds" and be "liberal" and "accepting of those who think differently" until it comes to the Catholic Church. It's so crazy to me.

Squeamish? comparing a not liking to see a man nailed to a cross to an 2 year old not liking onions? Seems quite out of touch to me.

What if Christ had been executed in the twentieth century? -- would you feel OK about wearing a pendent with a tiny man tied to an electric chair? What if it were in different historical times and he was tied to a stake with flames engulfing him or leaned over a chopping block with his head freshly removed? Feeling squeamish yet?

It is clear that you have more problems with Catholicism than merely this issue. Unless you address your other things, you will feel this way towards the crucifix. I encourage you to delve more deeply into Catholic reading, scripture; perhaps meet with a priest and speak to him about this; and figure out why this bothers you so. I am glad you are pursuing it and not just squelching it. I feel you are searching for answers and perhaps what you are seeking is right at the heart of the Holy Catholic Church.

What do you have to say about the manner of Christ's death and it possibly making a person feel squeamish?

I would say it is right to feel squeamish about this. Imagine what Christ went through. And yet He did it. .. for us. He was 100% human, and yet he died this terrible death as a sacrifice for us all. If you merely feel squeamish looking at it, imagine what He went through, a thousand-fold more discomfort than what you are feeling from merely gazing upon it. Go with it, and imagine the incredible sacrifice and love He gave to us. He loves you so much, and is reaching out to you. Go with it, and pursue it further through reading, going to Mass, praying, meeting with a priest or active Catholics, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am so tired of folks who whine about the Catholic Church and yet no so little about it... If their yoga teacher told them to read a book about Vishnu, they would do it, but they prefer to bloviate about the Church rather than actually see what it is like.

there are PLENTY of Catholic parishes where OP would be perfectly comfortable, assuming that is that OP actually has some bona fide interest in attending a church (as opposed to kvetching).

Is there a listing of Catholic Churches that do not have Crucifixes? I once saw one in VA that had a huge risen (or perhaps rising) Christ on the Altar. Don't remember its name -- was there for a concert. The statue was completely dressed, in long robes.

This is St. Luke's in McLean. But the focus is still the same in that parish. It is a hard-core Catholic parish. I grew up in it. I am glad it gave me a solid grounding my faith.
This conversation has taken the weirdest turn. I had no idea that Protestants were so squeamish about this. I feel like I am having a conversation with my 2-year-old who doesn't like onions, or something similarly childish and illogical. Like, spiders. Or, ooh, bugs. Grow up, people, and like a previous poster said, do some reading and educating yourself about Catholicism before you bloviate about it. People always say they like to have "open minds" and be "liberal" and "accepting of those who think differently" until it comes to the Catholic Church. It's so crazy to me.

Squeamish? comparing a not liking to see a man nailed to a cross to an 2 year old not liking onions? Seems quite out of touch to me.

What if Christ had been executed in the twentieth century? -- would you feel OK about wearing a pendent with a tiny man tied to an electric chair? What if it were in different historical times and he was tied to a stake with flames engulfing him or leaned over a chopping block with his head freshly removed? Feeling squeamish yet?

It is clear that you have more problems with Catholicism than merely this issue. Unless you address your other things, you will feel this way towards the crucifix. I encourage you to delve more deeply into Catholic reading, scripture; perhaps meet with a priest and speak to him about this; and figure out why this bothers you so. I am glad you are pursuing it and not just squelching it. I feel you are searching for answers and perhaps what you are seeking is right at the heart of the Holy Catholic Church.

What do you have to say about the manner of Christ's death and it possibly making a person feel squeamish?

I would say it is right to feel squeamish about this. Imagine what Christ went through. And yet He did it. .. for us. He was 100% human, and yet he died this terrible death as a sacrifice for us all. If you merely feel squeamish looking at it, imagine what He went through, a thousand-fold more discomfort than what you are feeling from merely gazing upon it. Go with it, and imagine the incredible sacrifice and love He gave to us. He loves you so much, and is reaching out to you. Go with it, and pursue it further through reading, going to Mass, praying, meeting with a priest or active Catholics, etc.

Amen to that.