Ward 6 Middle Schools

[Anonymous]

Are all the Brent posters actual parents of Brent kids? I'm hoping they're trolls -- otherwise, I'm afraid to send my kid to school that has parents like these.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you are gunning at CHPSPO then you need to start with Charles Allen, his Chief of Staff is full-on CHPSPO.

I'm not gunning at CHPSPO but I'm another poster who lives in Ward 6 and don't feel any connection to them at all.

One - I don't live in Capital Hill and Two - their mission is very narrowly focused.

I don't resent what they do at all, but I worry that that there is a Ward 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7 and 8 education group and then CHPSPO goes to represent Ward 6. I don't understand why there is no Ward 6 Education network or council or group.

For me, it's as if Charles Allen and company don't even bother with the rest of our community on education issues.

Which is fine - we've been using another councilmember be our voice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

For me, it's as if Charles Allen and company don't even bother with the rest of our community on education issues.

YES. His and Tommy Wells' silence as a huge chunk of Ward 6 was redistricted from Wilson to Eastern was deafening. Probably because CHPSPO's interest is in improving Eastern, not allowing kids access to Wilson, or keeping Wilson diverse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

For me, it's as if Charles Allen and company don't even bother with the rest of our community on education issues.

YES. His and Tommy Wells' silence as a huge chunk of Ward 6 was redistricted from Wilson to Eastern was deafening. Probably because CHPSPO's interest is in improving Eastern, not allowing kids access to Wilson, or keeping Wilson diverse.

I don't have a horse in this race, but doesn't he have a kid about to enter PK3? So whatever he does will impact his kid too. That doesn't mean you have to agree with him. But there's a difference between disagreeing with him and ascribing nefarious intent. What if he was prioritizing Eastern? Since his the education quality in his district is more impacted by Eastern than Wilson wouldn't that be appropriate? Sure, if you were moved out of Wilson I get the anger; I would be angry too. But how myopic is your vision that you can't see that what is in your best interest isn't in everyone's?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

For me, it's as if Charles Allen and company don't even bother with the rest of our community on education issues.

YES. His and Tommy Wells' silence as a huge chunk of Ward 6 was redistricted from Wilson to Eastern was deafening. Probably because CHPSPO's interest is in improving Eastern, not allowing kids access to Wilson, or keeping Wilson diverse.

I don't have a horse in this race, but doesn't he have a kid about to enter PK3? So whatever he does will impact his kid too. That doesn't mean you have to agree with him. But there's a difference between disagreeing with him and ascribing nefarious intent. What if he was prioritizing Eastern? Since his the education quality in his district is more impacted by Eastern than Wilson wouldn't that be appropriate? Sure, if you were moved out of Wilson I get the anger; I would be angry too. But how myopic is your vision that you can't see that what is in your best interest isn't in everyone's?

That's fair, and it's not that I disagree with "what's best for the greater community is what's best for all" but there also needs to be some flexibility here if you want to capitalize on the resources and energy the higher SES families on the hill bring. I'm sitting gere, wishing they were better schools but I'm not sending my kid in to be a sacrificial lamb. If you want to talk myopic, go to a CHPSPO meeting. There's no other way but their way in ward 6. If you're not on board you're an elitist prick. That's not going to fix jack.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you are gunning at CHPSPO then you need to start with Charles Allen, his Chief of Staff is full-on CHPSPO.

Oh boy this... She stands in the back of the room all Judgy McJudgerton because you're not THRILLED to send your kid to Jefferson. But hey, she knows it's the RIGHT thing to do, so it's your problem, not hers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
For me, it's as if Charles Allen and company don't even bother with the rest of our community on education issues.

YES. His and Tommy Wells' silence as a huge chunk of Ward 6 was redistricted from Wilson to Eastern was deafening. Probably because CHPSPO's interest is in improving Eastern, not allowing kids access to Wilson, or keeping Wilson diverse.

I don't have a horse in this race, but doesn't he have a kid about to enter PK3? So whatever he does will impact his kid too. That doesn't mean you have to agree with him. But there's a difference between disagreeing with him and ascribing nefarious intent. What if he was prioritizing Eastern? Since his the education quality in his district is more impacted by Eastern than Wilson wouldn't that be appropriate? Sure, if you were moved out of Wilson I get the anger; I would be angry too. But how myopic is your vision that you can't see that what is in your best interest isn't in everyone's?

I am not the pp, but I might hazard a guess.
I like the guy, heck, I voted for him. Nevertheless, Charles Allen, on some school issues, says current parents need to sacrifice their short term options in order to strengthen the longer term options of other parents.
On the issue of Wilson assignments changing to Eastern, who could deny that Wilson is widely considered a stronger option? But he spoke nary a word about it when that issue was pressing. Much of Ward 6 lost access to Wilson without Allen even visiting the issue.
On the issue of neighborhood schools and charters, Allen is in favor of limiting options in the near term in order to hopefully improve long term options (essentially force kids into neighborhood schools by limiting charters from opening, although he would use the euphemism "coordination" instead of limiting). Washington Global is opening in L'Enfant Plaza only after a long search for a facility in other parts of the city. But for a variety of reasons, including the DC government slow walking the release of unused buildings, Washington Global had to take whatever they could find (and the building they got actually is pretty good). Washington Global appears to be a school in the vein of Latin and Basis and that would have significant appeal to his Ward 6 constituents – they are clamoring for middle school options NOW. But Allen is siding with the hopeful notion that by constricting the supply of available desirable middle school seats now, Eliot Hine, Jefferson and even Stuart Hobson will improve. And the good folks at CHPSPO, including Joe Weedon, are enabling this with a moralistic attack on charters.
It’s a replay of the Stuart Hobson / Two Rivers fight from last decade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
For me, it's as if Charles Allen and company don't even bother with the rest of our community on education issues.

YES. His and Tommy Wells' silence as a huge chunk of Ward 6 was redistricted from Wilson to Eastern was deafening. Probably because CHPSPO's interest is in improving Eastern, not allowing kids access to Wilson, or keeping Wilson diverse.

I don't have a horse in this race, but doesn't he have a kid about to enter PK3? So whatever he does will impact his kid too. That doesn't mean you have to agree with him. But there's a difference between disagreeing with him and ascribing nefarious intent. What if he was prioritizing Eastern? Since his the education quality in his district is more impacted by Eastern than Wilson wouldn't that be appropriate? Sure, if you were moved out of Wilson I get the anger; I would be angry too. But how myopic is your vision that you can't see that what is in your best interest isn't in everyone's?

I am not the pp, but I might hazard a guess.
I like the guy, heck, I voted for him. Nevertheless, Charles Allen, on some school issues, says current parents need to sacrifice their short term options in order to strengthen the longer term options of other parents.
On the issue of Wilson assignments changing to Eastern, who could deny that Wilson is widely considered a stronger option? But he spoke nary a word about it when that issue was pressing. Much of Ward 6 lost access to Wilson without Allen even visiting the issue.
On the issue of neighborhood schools and charters, Allen is in favor of limiting options in the near term in order to hopefully improve long term options (essentially force kids into neighborhood schools by limiting charters from opening, although he would use the euphemism "coordination" instead of limiting). Washington Global is opening in L'Enfant Plaza only after a long search for a facility in other parts of the city. But for a variety of reasons, including the DC government slow walking the release of unused buildings, Washington Global had to take whatever they could find (and the building they got actually is pretty good). Washington Global appears to be a school in the vein of Latin and Basis and that would have significant appeal to his Ward 6 constituents – they are clamoring for middle school options NOW. But Allen is siding with the hopeful notion that by constricting the supply of available desirable middle school seats now, Eliot Hine, Jefferson and even Stuart Hobson will improve. And the good folks at CHPSPO, including Joe Weedon, are enabling this with a moralistic attack on charters.
It’s a replay of the Stuart Hobson / Two Rivers fight from last decade.

ding ding ding - we have a winner PP!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are all the Brent posters actual parents of Brent kids? I'm hoping they're trolls -- otherwise, I'm afraid to send my kid to school that has parents like these.

Then don't send your kid. Brent will survive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
For me, it's as if Charles Allen and company don't even bother with the rest of our community on education issues.

YES. His and Tommy Wells' silence as a huge chunk of Ward 6 was redistricted from Wilson to Eastern was deafening. Probably because CHPSPO's interest is in improving Eastern, not allowing kids access to Wilson, or keeping Wilson diverse.

I don't have a horse in this race, but doesn't he have a kid about to enter PK3? So whatever he does will impact his kid too. That doesn't mean you have to agree with him. But there's a difference between disagreeing with him and ascribing nefarious intent. What if he was prioritizing Eastern? Since his the education quality in his district is more impacted by Eastern than Wilson wouldn't that be appropriate? Sure, if you were moved out of Wilson I get the anger; I would be angry too. But how myopic is your vision that you can't see that what is in your best interest isn't in everyone's?

I am not the pp, but I might hazard a guess.
I like the guy, heck, I voted for him. Nevertheless, Charles Allen, on some school issues, says current parents need to sacrifice their short term options in order to strengthen the longer term options of other parents.
On the issue of Wilson assignments changing to Eastern, who could deny that Wilson is widely considered a stronger option? But he spoke nary a word about it when that issue was pressing. Much of Ward 6 lost access to Wilson without Allen even visiting the issue.
On the issue of neighborhood schools and charters, Allen is in favor of limiting options in the near term in order to hopefully improve long term options (essentially force kids into neighborhood schools by limiting charters from opening, although he would use the euphemism "coordination" instead of limiting). Washington Global is opening in L'Enfant Plaza only after a long search for a facility in other parts of the city. But for a variety of reasons, including the DC government slow walking the release of unused buildings, Washington Global had to take whatever they could find (and the building they got actually is pretty good). Washington Global appears to be a school in the vein of Latin and Basis and that would have significant appeal to his Ward 6 constituents – they are clamoring for middle school options NOW. But Allen is siding with the hopeful notion that by constricting the supply of available desirable middle school seats now, Eliot Hine, Jefferson and even Stuart Hobson will improve. And the good folks at CHPSPO, including Joe Weedon, are enabling this with a moralistic attack on charters.
It’s a replay of the Stuart Hobson / Two Rivers fight from last decade.

ding ding ding - we have a winner PP!

Oh, and HIS child's long-term options will look better than the bulk of the hill's current 4th graders' options. Big difference between 3 and 12.

[Anonymous]

Yup. If Charles Allen does one singular thing to restrict access to middle school charters in order to "compel" parents to use the DCPS middle schools I will never vote for him again--for anything.

Enough with the attack on the charter sector Joe Weedon. The reason people choose charter is as plain as DCPS snatching away modernization funding. It's about trust.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
For me, it's as if Charles Allen and company don't even bother with the rest of our community on education issues.

YES. His and Tommy Wells' silence as a huge chunk of Ward 6 was redistricted from Wilson to Eastern was deafening. Probably because CHPSPO's interest is in improving Eastern, not allowing kids access to Wilson, or keeping Wilson diverse.

I don't have a horse in this race, but doesn't he have a kid about to enter PK3? So whatever he does will impact his kid too. That doesn't mean you have to agree with him. But there's a difference between disagreeing with him and ascribing nefarious intent. What if he was prioritizing Eastern? Since his the education quality in his district is more impacted by Eastern than Wilson wouldn't that be appropriate? Sure, if you were moved out of Wilson I get the anger; I would be angry too. But how myopic is your vision that you can't see that what is in your best interest isn't in everyone's?

I am not the pp, but I might hazard a guess.
I like the guy, heck, I voted for him. Nevertheless, Charles Allen, on some school issues, says current parents need to sacrifice their short term options in order to strengthen the longer term options of other parents.
On the issue of Wilson assignments changing to Eastern, who could deny that Wilson is widely considered a stronger option? But he spoke nary a word about it when that issue was pressing. Much of Ward 6 lost access to Wilson without Allen even visiting the issue.
On the issue of neighborhood schools and charters, Allen is in favor of limiting options in the near term in order to hopefully improve long term options (essentially force kids into neighborhood schools by limiting charters from opening, although he would use the euphemism "coordination" instead of limiting). Washington Global is opening in L'Enfant Plaza only after a long search for a facility in other parts of the city. But for a variety of reasons, including the DC government slow walking the release of unused buildings, Washington Global had to take whatever they could find (and the building they got actually is pretty good). Washington Global appears to be a school in the vein of Latin and Basis and that would have significant appeal to his Ward 6 constituents – they are clamoring for middle school options NOW. But Allen is siding with the hopeful notion that by constricting the supply of available desirable middle school seats now, Eliot Hine, Jefferson and even Stuart Hobson will improve. And the good folks at CHPSPO, including Joe Weedon, are enabling this with a moralistic attack on charters.
It’s a replay of the Stuart Hobson / Two Rivers fight from last decade.

So he's in favor of short term pain for long term gain. Which you said at least twice. And that's clearly not how you feel. And, hey, my kid is in a charter school and will stay there through MS so I also don't favor putting my kid's education at risk to benefit those that come after me. But the same posters who complain that DCPS is short sighted will also complain about the long term view when that doesn't favor their own interests. And can you please explain the SH/2R comment? Not sure the narrative that says that charters (two rivers in particular) are hurting public schools is your strongest argument here. Because unless the published reports from way back are inaccurate, two rivers was founded by Brent parents. And Brent seems to have thrived pretty well since two rivers showed up.

[Anonymous]

What??? History lesson please. Pp is mighty confused

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yup. If Charles Allen does one singular thing to restrict access to middle school charters in order to "compel" parents to use the DCPS middle schools I will never vote for him again--for anything.

Enough with the attack on the charter sector Joe Weedon. The reason people choose charter is as plain as DCPS snatching away modernization funding. It's about trust.

Amen brother (or sister!) When I can trust DCPS, and the mayor, and Kaya to do what they say they'll do, I'll hang in there. Until then neither CHPSO nor Charles Allen, nor any amount of "gentrifier guilt" is going to cut it for me. Test-in, fix the facilities, feed them all to the same school, or you have people fighting tooth and nail for 4 seats at SH in three years and the rest of the kids that COULD have benefited from an influx of resources will continue to languor in sub-par schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What??? History lesson please. Pp is mighty confused

I will paste the link in a moment, but first I'd like to ask a serious question: What school do you think the founder of Brent was in bounds for when she and her neighbors started two rivers?