Patriots deflated game balls

Anonymous
Based on what is known so far -- 11 of 12 for Patriots but 0 of 12 Colts and Colts defender appeared to notice right away and no explanation and expert witnesses concluding Brady had to know -- there is enough evidence to convict. Issue should not be appropriate punishment, and it seems highly unlikely that any punishment would affect the Super Bowl. But seems likely that Brady and/or Belicheck might be suspended for a couple of games next year (the fines seem kind of silly in light of the previous fine for previously cheating), but that would also taint the Super Bowl (if the Patriots win). Although I am no Pats fan, it is all kind of a shame and must be a serious distraction for the Patriots (many or most of whom probably had no idea, but you got to figure some, like the center and RBs and WRs, knew).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The extremely low rate at which the Patriots fumble the football (especially considering they play in an cold weather outdoor stadium) is nearly impossible.

http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/?p=2932

If you're the slightest bit interested, and have the tiniest bit of statistical ability, this analysis is crazy interesting and curious.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Based on what is known so far -- 11 of 12 for Patriots but 0 of 12 Colts and Colts defender appeared to notice right away and no explanation and expert witnesses concluding Brady had to know -- there is enough evidence to convict. Issue should not be appropriate punishment, and it seems highly unlikely that any punishment would affect the Super Bowl. But seems likely that Brady and/or Belicheck might be suspended for a couple of games next year (the fines seem kind of silly in light of the previous fine for previously cheating), but that would also taint the Super Bowl (if the Patriots win). Although I am no Pats fan, it is all kind of a shame and must be a serious distraction for the Patriots (many or most of whom probably had no idea, but you got to figure some, like the center and RBs and WRs, knew).


If the opposing teams were aware, and apparently both the Colts and Ravens noticed, it is hard to believe anyone on the Patriots didn't. We will never know, obviously, but it certainly seems likely this behavior was not limited to the playoffs and games against the Colts.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am a Patriots fan but I hate cheaters! It takes all the fun out of the game. Cheaters are losers!!!! Go Seahawks!!! They should fire the Patriots coach. He feels the rules don't apply to him.


Any Pats fan that wants Belichick fired, especially with zero proof that he actually did anything wrong here, is no real Pats fan. Get lost, have fun on the Seattle bandwagon. I'm sure they're squeaky clean.

That press conference today was unbelievable. Brady would have faced less hostile questioning if he'd just pulled a Ray Rice and punched his wife in the face.


That's fine, the Patriots will continued to be thought of as the cheaters of the NFL. Between spy gate and this episode, the Patriots won't have a single super bowl victory in the Belichick era without a big cheating astrick next to it, assuming they manage to win next week. You must really love the patriot laundry to want to continue this management, win at any cost, even cheating.


I fully expect the attacks from other teams' fans. I understand it and would be doing the same thing in their position. But I don't want to hear it from people who claim to be Pats fans, especially before the NFL has even said anything and all we have is tweets and speculation from media morons. Fans give their team the benefit of the doubt. Yes, I root for the laundry. Saints fans didn't torch their team after Bountygate, Ravens fans CHEERED wifebeater Ray Rice and Ray Lewis, who probably helped murder someone. So yeah, I'm gonna support my team even if they let some air out of some footballs, that's what a fan is. A Pats fan who wants Belichick fired over this is a bandwagon-jumping poser who has no perspective on exactly how dire things were in NE before Robert Kraft bought the team and hired him. I'll be dismayed and angry, but I'm not throwing away any jerseys.
Anonymous
If the NFL wants to get the message across - inspect everything, no trust with constant verification
Anonymous
Would Brady mind if they over inflate the football 2 psi for the super bowl ?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The extremely low rate at which the Patriots fumble the football (especially considering they play in an cold weather outdoor stadium) is nearly impossible.

http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/?p=2932

If you're the slightest bit interested, and have the tiniest bit of statistical ability, this analysis is crazy interesting and curious.


As a pats fan, those are hard numbers to look at.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The extremely low rate at which the Patriots fumble the football (especially considering they play in an cold weather outdoor stadium) is nearly impossible.

http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/?p=2932

If you're the slightest bit interested, and have the tiniest bit of statistical ability, this analysis is crazy interesting and curious.


As a pats fan, those are hard numbers to look at.

I feel your pain.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am a Patriots fan but I hate cheaters! It takes all the fun out of the game. Cheaters are losers!!!! Go Seahawks!!! They should fire the Patriots coach. He feels the rules don't apply to him.


Any Pats fan that wants Belichick fired, especially with zero proof that he actually did anything wrong here, is no real Pats fan. Get lost, have fun on the Seattle bandwagon. I'm sure they're squeaky clean.

That press conference today was unbelievable. Brady would have faced less hostile questioning if he'd just pulled a Ray Rice and punched his wife in the face.


That's fine, the Patriots will continued to be thought of as the cheaters of the NFL. Between spy gate and this episode, the Patriots won't have a single super bowl victory in the Belichick era without a big cheating astrick next to it, assuming they manage to win next week. You must really love the patriot laundry to want to continue this management, win at any cost, even cheating.


I fully expect the attacks from other teams' fans. I understand it and would be doing the same thing in their position. But I don't want to hear it from people who claim to be Pats fans, especially before the NFL has even said anything and all we have is tweets and speculation from media morons. Fans give their team the benefit of the doubt. Yes, I root for the laundry. Saints fans didn't torch their team after Bountygate, Ravens fans CHEERED wifebeater Ray Rice and Ray Lewis, who probably helped murder someone. So yeah, I'm gonna support my team even if they let some air out of some footballs, that's what a fan is. A Pats fan who wants Belichick fired over this is a bandwagon-jumping poser who has no perspective on exactly how dire things were in NE before Robert Kraft bought the team and hired him. I'll be dismayed and angry, but I'm not throwing away any jerseys.


Amen sister!! I'm with you!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am a Patriots fan but I hate cheaters! It takes all the fun out of the game. Cheaters are losers!!!! Go Seahawks!!! They should fire the Patriots coach. He feels the rules don't apply to him.


Any Pats fan that wants Belichick fired, especially with zero proof that he actually did anything wrong here, is no real Pats fan. Get lost, have fun on the Seattle bandwagon. I'm sure they're squeaky clean.

That press conference today was unbelievable. Brady would have faced less hostile questioning if he'd just pulled a Ray Rice and punched his wife in the face.


That's fine, the Patriots will continued to be thought of as the cheaters of the NFL. Between spy gate and this episode, the Patriots won't have a single super bowl victory in the Belichick era without a big cheating astrick next to it, assuming they manage to win next week. You must really love the patriot laundry to want to continue this management, win at any cost, even cheating.


I fully expect the attacks from other teams' fans. I understand it and would be doing the same thing in their position. But I don't want to hear it from people who claim to be Pats fans, especially before the NFL has even said anything and all we have is tweets and speculation from media morons. Fans give their team the benefit of the doubt. Yes, I root for the laundry. Saints fans didn't torch their team after Bountygate, Ravens fans CHEERED wifebeater Ray Rice and Ray Lewis, who probably helped murder someone. So yeah, I'm gonna support my team even if they let some air out of some footballs, that's what a fan is. A Pats fan who wants Belichick fired over this is a bandwagon-jumping poser who has no perspective on exactly how dire things were in NE before Robert Kraft bought the team and hired him. I'll be dismayed and angry, but I'm not throwing away any jerseys.

Eating
Really not a fair comparison to the Ravens, rice did a ton of charity work in Baltimore and that's why management wrongly gave him a pass. Once the video came out, the Ravens fans weren't cheering, the were demanding he be fired. Ray Lewis was a decade ago and was acquitted. Hernandez will be convicted in a few weeks, but you forgot to mention him. Every nfl team has its share of bad off the field behavior, cheating on the field by the head coach and star quarterback, neither of whom needs to cheat to be good, is another thing all together.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am a Patriots fan but I hate cheaters! It takes all the fun out of the game. Cheaters are losers!!!! Go Seahawks!!! They should fire the Patriots coach. He feels the rules don't apply to him.


Any Pats fan that wants Belichick fired, especially with zero proof that he actually did anything wrong here, is no real Pats fan. Get lost, have fun on the Seattle bandwagon. I'm sure they're squeaky clean.

That press conference today was unbelievable. Brady would have faced less hostile questioning if he'd just pulled a Ray Rice and punched his wife in the face.


That's fine, the Patriots will continued to be thought of as the cheaters of the NFL. Between spy gate and this episode, the Patriots won't have a single super bowl victory in the Belichick era without a big cheating astrick next to it, assuming they manage to win next week. You must really love the patriot laundry to want to continue this management, win at any cost, even cheating.


I fully expect the attacks from other teams' fans. I understand it and would be doing the same thing in their position. But I don't want to hear it from people who claim to be Pats fans, especially before the NFL has even said anything and all we have is tweets and speculation from media morons. Fans give their team the benefit of the doubt. Yes, I root for the laundry. Saints fans didn't torch their team after Bountygate, Ravens fans CHEERED wifebeater Ray Rice and Ray Lewis, who probably helped murder someone. So yeah, I'm gonna support my team even if they let some air out of some footballs, that's what a fan is. A Pats fan who wants Belichick fired over this is a bandwagon-jumping poser who has no perspective on exactly how dire things were in NE before Robert Kraft bought the team and hired him. I'll be dismayed and angry, but I'm not throwing away any jerseys.

Eating
Really not a fair comparison to the Ravens, rice did a ton of charity work in Baltimore and that's why management wrongly gave him a pass. Once the video came out, the Ravens fans weren't cheering, the were demanding he be fired. Ray Lewis was a decade ago and was acquitted. Hernandez will be convicted in a few weeks, but you forgot to mention him. Every nfl team has its share of bad off the field behavior, cheating on the field by the head coach and star quarterback, neither of whom needs to cheat to be good, is another thing all together.


And your evidence that they have done this is what, exactly? About as strong as the evidence that Ray Lewis murdered someone, I suspect.

Belichick just held a very angry press conference in which he stated that the team has done an internal investigation and does not think anyone did anything wrong, that he cannot believe how much time he has had to waste on this, and strongly implied that he thinks the referees didn't actually test the balls before the game and are just covering their asses with their NFL bosses by claiming they did.

If nothing else, this scandal has given us video clips of Bill "It's Party Time" Belichick uttering sentences such as "I have handled a lot of balls in the last week" and "I don't know how Tom prefers his balls."
Anonymous
Google bill's press conference of today. It's over from the Pats perspective... On to more important things: SB game prep.

They hate us cause they ain't us!!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am a Patriots fan but I hate cheaters! It takes all the fun out of the game. Cheaters are losers!!!! Go Seahawks!!! They should fire the Patriots coach. He feels the rules don't apply to him.


Any Pats fan that wants Belichick fired, especially with zero proof that he actually did anything wrong here, is no real Pats fan. Get lost, have fun on the Seattle bandwagon. I'm sure they're squeaky clean.

That press conference today was unbelievable. Brady would have faced less hostile questioning if he'd just pulled a Ray Rice and punched his wife in the face.


That's fine, the Patriots will continued to be thought of as the cheaters of the NFL. Between spy gate and this episode, the Patriots won't have a single super bowl victory in the Belichick era without a big cheating astrick next to it, assuming they manage to win next week. You must really love the patriot laundry to want to continue this management, win at any cost, even cheating.


I fully expect the attacks from other teams' fans. I understand it and would be doing the same thing in their position. But I don't want to hear it from people who claim to be Pats fans, especially before the NFL has even said anything and all we have is tweets and speculation from media morons. Fans give their team the benefit of the doubt. Yes, I root for the laundry. Saints fans didn't torch their team after Bountygate, Ravens fans CHEERED wifebeater Ray Rice and Ray Lewis, who probably helped murder someone. So yeah, I'm gonna support my team even if they let some air out of some footballs, that's what a fan is. A Pats fan who wants Belichick fired over this is a bandwagon-jumping poser who has no perspective on exactly how dire things were in NE before Robert Kraft bought the team and hired him. I'll be dismayed and angry, but I'm not throwing away any jerseys.

Eating
Really not a fair comparison to the Ravens, rice did a ton of charity work in Baltimore and that's why management wrongly gave him a pass. Once the video came out, the Ravens fans weren't cheering, the were demanding he be fired. Ray Lewis was a decade ago and was acquitted. Hernandez will be convicted in a few weeks, but you forgot to mention him. Every nfl team has its share of bad off the field behavior, cheating on the field by the head coach and star quarterback, neither of whom needs to cheat to be good, is another thing all together.


And your evidence that they have done this is what, exactly? About as strong as the evidence that Ray Lewis murdered someone, I suspect.

Belichick just held a very angry press conference in which he stated that the team has done an internal investigation and does not think anyone did anything wrong, that he cannot believe how much time he has had to waste on this, and strongly implied that he thinks the referees didn't actually test the balls before the game and are just covering their asses with their NFL bosses by claiming they did.

If nothing else, this scandal has given us video clips of Bill "It's Party Time" Belichick uttering sentences such as "I have handled a lot of balls in the last week" and "I don't know how Tom prefers his balls."


Yes, it was a nice smokescreen. They still are cheaters and he pretty much admitted they set it up deliberately so their balls were below regulation weight.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am a Patriots fan but I hate cheaters! It takes all the fun out of the game. Cheaters are losers!!!! Go Seahawks!!! They should fire the Patriots coach. He feels the rules don't apply to him.


Any Pats fan that wants Belichick fired, especially with zero proof that he actually did anything wrong here, is no real Pats fan. Get lost, have fun on the Seattle bandwagon. I'm sure they're squeaky clean.

That press conference today was unbelievable. Brady would have faced less hostile questioning if he'd just pulled a Ray Rice and punched his wife in the face.


That's fine, the Patriots will continued to be thought of as the cheaters of the NFL. Between spy gate and this episode, the Patriots won't have a single super bowl victory in the Belichick era without a big cheating astrick next to it, assuming they manage to win next week. You must really love the patriot laundry to want to continue this management, win at any cost, even cheating.


I fully expect the attacks from other teams' fans. I understand it and would be doing the same thing in their position. But I don't want to hear it from people who claim to be Pats fans, especially before the NFL has even said anything and all we have is tweets and speculation from media morons. Fans give their team the benefit of the doubt. Yes, I root for the laundry. Saints fans didn't torch their team after Bountygate, Ravens fans CHEERED wifebeater Ray Rice and Ray Lewis, who probably helped murder someone. So yeah, I'm gonna support my team even if they let some air out of some footballs, that's what a fan is. A Pats fan who wants Belichick fired over this is a bandwagon-jumping poser who has no perspective on exactly how dire things were in NE before Robert Kraft bought the team and hired him. I'll be dismayed and angry, but I'm not throwing away any jerseys.

Eating
Really not a fair comparison to the Ravens, rice did a ton of charity work in Baltimore and that's why management wrongly gave him a pass. Once the video came out, the Ravens fans weren't cheering, the were demanding he be fired. Ray Lewis was a decade ago and was acquitted. Hernandez will be convicted in a few weeks, but you forgot to mention him. Every nfl team has its share of bad off the field behavior, cheating on the field by the head coach and star quarterback, neither of whom needs to cheat to be good, is another thing all together.

WORD UP!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Google bill's press conference of today. It's over from the Pats perspective... On to more important things: SB game prep.

They hate us cause they ain't us!!!

We hate you cause you cheat us!!

Keep your jersey, boy. But everyone else can see that the patriots' house of cards is falling - and this stain will last for a long time. Hard fact to face, huh?
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