Patriots deflated game balls

[Anonymous]

The size of the balls (volume) and the temperature definitely affect pressure over time.
PV = nRT (assume n and R are constant for now).
But the temperature variation and time lapse that's been reported are insufficient to account for the drop in pressure that's been reported.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The officials only touch the ball for a second, not on every play, and it's not always the same ball--they're being switched in and out. The officials don't throw the ball for a living; they wouldn't necessarily notice.

One guy does handle the ball every single play, and his entire craft and livelihood depend on how he throws it. He's the guy who would know. (Hint: it's not the center.)

This is what I can't get over. Brady has to know the feel of that ball within 2 (to 4) psi.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The officials only touch the ball for a second, not on every play, and it's not always the same ball--they're being switched in and out. The officials don't throw the ball for a living; they wouldn't necessarily notice.

One guy does handle the ball every single play, and his entire craft and livelihood depend on how he throws it. He's the guy who would know. (Hint: it's not the center.)

This is what I can't get over. Brady has to know the feel of that ball within 2 (to 4) psi.

I say we hand Troy aikman a deflated ball and ask him to tell us if it's properly inflated.

And, is it Tom Brady's job to make sure the balls are properly inflated throughout the game? Does he have any responsibility to notify the ref who just handed him the ball that he thinks it is deflated?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It was 51 degrees at kickoff so you wouldn't expect much pressure delta. And certainly not enough to affect 11 of 12 Pats balls and 0 of 12 Colts balls.
Troy Aikman also said its unfathomable that Brady wouldn't be able to tell the pressure or that anyone could or would mess with Brady's game balls without his knowledge.

To pp, Troy Aikman did have an opinion on the subject.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was 51 degrees at kickoff so you wouldn't expect much pressure delta. And certainly not enough to affect 11 of 12 Pats balls and 0 of 12 Colts balls.
Troy Aikman also said its unfathomable that Brady wouldn't be able to tell the pressure or that anyone could or would mess with Brady's game balls without his knowledge.

To pp, Troy Aikman did have an opinion on the subject.

I know, which is why I said test him on it. He would also be considered an expert on ball pressure. Hand him a deflated ball and see if he notices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The officials only touch the ball for a second, not on every play, and it's not always the same ball--they're being switched in and out. The officials don't throw the ball for a living; they wouldn't necessarily notice.

One guy does handle the ball every single play, and his entire craft and livelihood depend on how he throws it. He's the guy who would know. (Hint: it's not the center.)

This is what I can't get over. Brady has to know the feel of that ball within 2 (to 4) psi.

I say we hand Troy aikman a deflated ball and ask him to tell us if it's properly inflated.

And, is it Tom Brady's job to make sure the balls are properly inflated throughout the game? Does he have any responsibility to notify the ref who just handed him the ball that he thinks it is deflated?

No, the fact that the ball's been deflated? Brady keeps that to himself. I blame the 15 yr old ball girl.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a Patriots fan but I hate cheaters! It takes all the fun out of the game. Cheaters are losers!!!! Go Seahawks!!! They should fire the Patriots coach. He feels the rules don't apply to him.

Any Pats fan that wants Belichick fired, especially with zero proof that he actually did anything wrong here, is no real Pats fan. Get lost, have fun on the Seattle bandwagon. I'm sure they're squeaky clean.

That press conference today was unbelievable. Brady would have faced less hostile questioning if he'd just pulled a Ray Rice and punched his wife in the face.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a Patriots fan but I hate cheaters! It takes all the fun out of the game. Cheaters are losers!!!! Go Seahawks!!! They should fire the Patriots coach. He feels the rules don't apply to him.

Any Pats fan that wants Belichick fired, especially with zero proof that he actually did anything wrong here, is no real Pats fan. Get lost, have fun on the Seattle bandwagon. I'm sure they're squeaky clean.

That press conference today was unbelievable. Brady would have faced less hostile questioning if he'd just pulled a Ray Rice and punched his wife in the face.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a Patriots fan but I hate cheaters! It takes all the fun out of the game. Cheaters are losers!!!! Go Seahawks!!! They should fire the Patriots coach. He feels the rules don't apply to him.

Any Pats fan that wants Belichick fired, especially with zero proof that he actually did anything wrong here, is no real Pats fan. Get lost, have fun on the Seattle bandwagon. I'm sure they're squeaky clean.

That press conference today was unbelievable. Brady would have faced less hostile questioning if he'd just pulled a Ray Rice and punched his wife in the face.

Yeah, I think Tom's too cute to have done anything wrong too! And if he did break the rules, that's ok because he's so cute and good for football. And those reporters, with all their questions! Ugh. If anyone disagrees: you must be a closet Hawks fan. Because there's no in between.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The size of the balls (volume) and the temperature definitely affect pressure over time.
PV = nRT (assume n and R are constant for now).
But the temperature variation and time lapse that's been reported are insufficient to account for the drop in pressure that's been reported.

Thanks, physics professor.

[Anonymous]

Brady is a high functioning fossil who pretty much just throws short, short-ish passes these days. His press conference seemed spectrum-y. I have concluded that the only human beings who wear knit caps with a pom pom are NFLers and toddlers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a Patriots fan but I hate cheaters! It takes all the fun out of the game. Cheaters are losers!!!! Go Seahawks!!! They should fire the Patriots coach. He feels the rules don't apply to him.

Any Pats fan that wants Belichick fired, especially with zero proof that he actually did anything wrong here, is no real Pats fan. Get lost, have fun on the Seattle bandwagon. I'm sure they're squeaky clean.

That press conference today was unbelievable. Brady would have faced less hostile questioning if he'd just pulled a Ray Rice and punched his wife in the face.

That's fine, the Patriots will continued to be thought of as the cheaters of the NFL. Between spy gate and this episode, the Patriots won't have a single super bowl victory in the Belichick era without a big cheating astrick next to it, assuming they manage to win next week. You must really love the patriot laundry to want to continue this management, win at any cost, even cheating.

[Anonymous]

Al Michaels and Bob Costas were on late night TV last night and both kept things very light but pretty much assumed that Brady knew about the underinflated balls (Costas in particular).

[Anonymous]

The extremely low rate at which the Patriots fumble the football (especially considering they play in an cold weather outdoor stadium) is nearly impossible.

http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/?p=2932

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The extremely low rate at which the Patriots fumble the football (especially considering they play in an cold weather outdoor stadium) is nearly impossible.

http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/?p=2932

According to the fumble stats, Pats numbers have a .00006 probability of being coincidence.
Add statistics to the pressure as function of time/temp formula above, and this is getting bizarrer and bizzarer.