Patriots deflated game balls

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Of course Brady is denying it. He cops to it, buh-bye Canton.


Right, Aaron Rogers already said he overinflates and hates when officials take air out. This had no impact on HOF you idiot. He'd be better off if he stabbed to people to death and everyone knew it that being suspected of asking someone to let air out of the balls.


Crazy Patriot fan alert. Tom Brady is just as big a cheater as lance Armstrong, Rodger Clemmons, and Barry Bonds. All,of them broke the rules to gain a competitive advantage they didn't actually need.
Anonymous
Tom Bratty did an interview earlier today. This is an excerpt from that interview:

Asked if he sought out members of the Patriots' equipment staff to inquire if they altered the balls in any way Sunday, Brady said: "Yeah, and they haven't, and I believe them. They also know how I like it and that's exactly the way they are."

Anonymous
Folk, at least one referee touches the football after every single play. There is sooo much more to this story...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Folk, at least one referee touches the football after every single play. There is sooo much more to this story...

*Folks
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Folk, at least one referee touches the football after every single play. There is sooo much more to this story...

Sure the NFL loves the Pats?
Anonymous
What's that Colts? Ravens? You can't complain about Pats balls and expect us to do anything about it.
Anonymous
More seriously, I'm no scientist, but if they inflated the balls to (lowest allowed by regulation) 12.5 psi inside, where it was like 70 degrees, and carried them outside into the cold, wouldn't some additional deflation happen naturally? Or not that quick?


I read a piece about this earlier today (sorry, I forget where -- no link) and it said that the difference in temperature would account for about 1 psi, but these balls were all underinflated by 2 psi, and it was hard to come up with another explanation for the additional pound.

Hard to know why the Colts' balls wouldn't also have been underinflated by 1 psi for the same reason, unless the Colts were inflating beyond the minimum. The range is 12.5 to 13.5 psi, so a 13.5 psi ball indoors at room temperature would still be 12.5 outside, and a ball that started at 12.5 would be less. But not 2 psi less.

With 11 of 12 balls low by 2 psi, and no other apparent explanation, that looks like cheating.

Madden was also pretty persuasive today in reasoning that Brady must have known. He handles the ball on every play; it's just the way he likes it; and nobody, but nobody in the Pats organization would F with the footballs without checking with Brady. OTOH Madden thought it was perfectly plausible that it could be between Brady and one of the equipment guys, without Belichik knowing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Folk, at least one referee touches the football after every single play. There is sooo much more to this story...

Sure the NFL loves the Pats?

No, dummy! Pp is suggesting that the refs may have known something.
Anonymous
It was 51 degrees at kickoff so you wouldn't expect much pressure delta. And certainly not enough to affect 11 of 12 Pats balls and 0 of 12 Colts balls.
Troy Aikman also said its unfathomable that Brady wouldn't be able to tell the pressure or that anyone could or would mess with Brady's game balls without his knowledge.
Anonymous
Can we just focus on the Seahawks for a minute. They aren't saints either.

http://nypost.com/2015/01/21/the-seahawks-have-done-some-dirty-cheating-too/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Folk, at least one referee touches the football after every single play. There is sooo much more to this story...

Sure the NFL loves the Pats?

No, dummy! Pp is suggesting that the refs may have known something.

Yes sweetheart, the refs knew something but did nothing about it. Because the NFL organization loves the Pats. And we know the refs knew something because the Colts and Ravens organizations had previously brought it to their attention.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Can we just focus on the Seahawks for a minute. They aren't saints either.

http://nypost.com/2015/01/21/the-seahawks-have-done-some-dirty-cheating-too/

Everybody cheating doesn't make it right. Come on, are we in the 3rd grade? But taking your point, the Hawks were punished for their transgressions.
Anonymous
I am a Patriots fan but I hate cheaters! It takes all the fun out of the game. Cheaters are losers!!!! Go Seahawks!!! They should fire the Patriots coach. He feels the rules don't apply to him.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It was 51 degrees at kickoff so you wouldn't expect much pressure delta. And certainly not enough to affect 11 of 12 Pats balls and 0 of 12 Colts balls.
Troy Aikman also said its unfathomable that Brady wouldn't be able to tell the pressure or that anyone could or would mess with Brady's game balls without his knowledge.


With regard to the colts balls not being affected by the drop in temp, wouldn't this be explained away if they kept their balls close to the sideline heaters? Maybe keeping them there so that they are warmer and drier?

And, on the Pats side, you indicate the temp was 51 at the start of the game, but were they measured at halftime? What was the temp when they were measured by the refs?
Anonymous
The officials only touch the ball for a second, not on every play, and it's not always the same ball--they're being switched in and out. The officials don't throw the ball for a living; they wouldn't necessarily notice.

One guy does handle the ball every single play, and his entire craft and livelihood depend on how he throws it. He's the guy who would know. (Hint: it's not the center.)
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