Seriously - all this grief over Joan Rivers?

[Anonymous]

A couple of decades from now, Joan Rivers will be remembered as an obnoxious, bitter old woman who could not even grow old gracefully.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A couple of decades from now, Joan Rivers will be remembered as an obnoxious, bitter old woman who could not even grow old gracefully.

Whereas you're filling that slot perfectly right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A couple of decades from now, Joan Rivers will be remembered as an obnoxious, bitter old woman who could not even grow old gracefully.

Why wait a couple of decades? It is how she is remembered by many today as is very evident based on the comments here and elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

So this is the woman that people here have been defending as a great comedian.

Bizarre ....... but I loved the response of Adam Hill as Joan Rivers disparaged Adele and her weight.

http://www.mamamia.com.au/entertainment/adam-hills-adele/

He nailed it with this comment:

How dare you make fun of one of the best female role models on the planet for the way she looks. Adele is one of the very few women in pop music that I want my daughter to look up to – and you’re making jokes about the way she looks? When you’re so insecure about your own face, you’ve spent more money on it than the producers of Life of Pi spent on that tiger?

[Audience cheers.] I’m not finished!

I’ve met Adele and she was lovely and hot. You, Joan Rivers, have become a jaded bitter old mole. Get a plastic surgeon to manufacture yourself a new soul. Stop being such an enormous hypocritical insensitive dick.

[Anonymous]

Here, here!

[Anonymous]

Show us your history of pioneering and breaking through gender stereotyping in your field.

Oh, you can't? I didn't think so.

STFU.

[Anonymous]

The link to the video doesn't work, but here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e66toX31qBk

She's re-hashed fat jokes her entire life. Unfunny, un-clever, unoriginal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Show us your history of pioneering and breaking through gender stereotyping in your field.

Oh, you can't? I didn't think so.

STFU.

p.s. yes, her recent work is hardly noteworthy, but for 20-30 yrs. she was out front when women were 2nd class citizens in comedy... how soon we forget now that we are all our own special little snowflakes.

[Anonymous]

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Trust me, if Tosh dies tomorrow and everyone calls him a saint, I'll be vomiting just as much.

For PP who doesn't know who this is, it's Daniel Tosh who has a show on Comedy Central called Tosh.0. It's very funny.

This is all making me wonder how Howard Stern's passing will be received when his time comes.

I wonder too. People still judge him by his 80s stuff.

Howard Stern is a persona. He says a lot of "vile" stuff that is just schtick. And he's toned it down a lot with age.

He isn't a celeb ass-kisser, and that's what people like about him. He doesn't have to sit around and act like Brad Pitt is doing something amazing by being in yet another movie -- you should hear how they mock self-important actors when they play news clips. He doesn't have to pretend Lena Dunham is a great beauty -- although he likes her and her show very much. BTW I've read meaner things about Lena on this board.

He was also one of the first celebs to speak openly in favor of gay marriage. He's staunchly pro-choice. He willingly admitted he was wrong for supporting the Iraq War. He and his wife are very involved in taking care of and raising money for abandoned and abused animals. He and his ex-wife also managed to keep their 3 daughters out of the public eye and on the straight and narrow, despite their very privileged lives.

Howard Stern is not even a rancid pus-filled carbuncle on the anus of comedy history compared to what Joan Rivers accomplished.

I don't worship her or even love what she did for the past 20 yrs or so that much, but I do remember her in the 1960s and 70s and she was something to see ... Stern was funny for a few minutes in the 80s and ever since has relegated to his ultimate place, a used condom on the sidewalk of the comedy trail.

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Anonymous wrote:She was ground-breaking in the male-dominated world of comedy.

Yes, this., I have a friend who worked as a waiter in a restaurant she used to frequent and he says she was always very nice to him.

Well, that's just common sense. She didn't want him doing anything to her food.

She had a lot of good friends that she spent time with often, and she was a good mother and devoted grandmother. She had a better life than many of the miserable people ripping her on this thread. So mean to make people defend themselves for feeling sad about her death.

If she was a "good" mother, then her daughter would have been able to actually do something for a living--other than riding coat tails.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She was ground-breaking in the male-dominated world of comedy.

Yes, this., I have a friend who worked as a waiter in a restaurant she used to frequent and he says she was always very nice to him.

Well, that's just common sense. She didn't want him doing anything to her food.

She had a lot of good friends that she spent time with often, and she was a good mother and devoted grandmother. She had a better life than many of the miserable people ripping her on this thread. So mean to make people defend themselves for feeling sad about her death.

If she was a "good" mother, then her daughter would have been able to actually do something for a living--other than riding coat tails.

She could dish it out but could not take it from others as when she was asked about her daughter riding her coat-tails:

[youtube]She could dish it out but could not take it:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Show us your history of pioneering and breaking through gender stereotyping in your field.

Oh, you can't? I didn't think so.

STFU.

Hahahaahahahaha

That's like telling a diner can't judge the food because he's not a chef.

And by that logic, you can't praise Joan Rivers without "breaking through gender stereotyping your field".

So STFU.

[Anonymous]

The people defending Joan Rivers in this thread make me lose faith in humanity.

[Anonymous]

People who can't take a joke make me lose faith in humanity.

[Anonymous]

People who are too stupid to understand that comics are supposed to push the envelope and that their onstage persona is not the complete picture of their personal identity scare me. She was a comedian, people!! The majority of the celebs she skewered LOVED her. It was an act.