S/O Isn't Christmas about Christ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As an atheist, christmas is a time to be festive and stave off winter doldrums. It's also a time to load up on sugar and alcohol and make lots of fires. I consider that to be my way of "taking back" the holiday that the christians took from us pagans.

Ummm.... Not sure you get to claim to be a pagan after saying your an atheist, but merry Christmas, happy winter solstice and happy Festivus all the same.

[Anonymous]

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Just a thought on the "Jesus is a prophet and not the divine son of God". Something C S Lewis wrote on this was profound (at least to me). He wrote that one cannot think of Jesus as merely a good man, a wise religious philosopher, a mere prophet. Lewis points out that Jesus clear in claiming his divinity (He told the woman at the well and also plainly stated this during his trial before his crucifixion). Since he claimed to be the Son of God (capitals intentional), if this was not true then he would be guilty of falsely leading people astray if it was not actually true. So it would be an extraordinarily evil thing for him to lead people to follow him as the Son of God, if he were not actually the Son of God. In other words, Jesus was either the Divine Son of God, the Savior, OR...he is responsible for leading millions and millions of Christians on a false path throughout the ages.

Lewis says there is not logically any kind of middle ground on Jesus.

Suppose his words in this instance were misrepresented? Suppose he was speaking in metaphorical terms? There is a bunch of middle ground on this.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see what is wrong with wishing Jews and Muslims "Happy Christmas". After all, don't we all worship the same Jesus?

No.

SMH

LMAO!!! PP wins dumbest poster of the year and most ignorant Christian!
Muslims, Jews and Christians worship the same God. Jews do not believe Jesus was the Messiah. Muslims do not believe he was the Messiah either, but a prophet.

This is not true. Everyone worships Jesus, even if they call him by differant names.

As for being the dumbest poster of the year, I had my IQ measured once by a profesional service, and the machine actually broke. They told me I was quote unquote "off the charts".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In other words, Jesus was either the Divine Son of God, the Savior, OR...he is responsible for leading millions and millions of Christians on a false path throughout the ages.

Lewis says there is not logically any kind of middle ground on Jesus.

So this "false path" is what? To love and care for each other? to recognise and care for the downtrodden? If God is offended by those that go down such a path, I want nothing to do with God.

[Anonymous]

As for being the dumbest poster of the year, I had my IQ measured once by a profesional service, and the machine actually broke. They told me I was quote unquote "off the charts".

Well, if the first post didn't win you the award, this one did.

IQ is not something measured by a machine like your blood pressure. It is measured using a test of various kinds of problems.

IQ is simply a measurement of ("intellectual age" over physical age) x 100. So, if your IQ is 100 your intellectual age and your physical age are aligned - i.e., you're as good at solving the test problems as your supposed to be given your age.

Thus, the machine is not going to break because your IQ is too high.

There is no IQ that is "off the charts." (And, just for future reference, since the written text actually includes quotation marks,you don't need to write "quote unquote" before you put something in quotes.)

If you paid for such a test from a "profesional service" sic and got those results, you were scammed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't see what is wrong with wishing Jews and Muslims "Happy Christmas". After all, don't we all worship the same Jesus?

No.

SMH

LMAO!!! PP wins dumbest poster of the year and most ignorant Christian!
Muslims, Jews and Christians worship the same God. Jews do not believe Jesus was the Messiah. Muslims do not believe he was the Messiah either, but a prophet.

I consider myself Christian and I also consider Jesus a prophet. Not necessarily the Messiah. Maybe I'm really Jewish?

Congrats! You are Unitarian- Universalist! Welcome to the club!

I thought so too - but I feel like Jesus is completely missing in the UU church. I feel like it would be fine to discuss his teachings (and those of other prophets) but that hasn't been the case at the two UU churches I've tried.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lewis says there is not logically any kind of middle ground on Jesus.

Maybe so. But religion is about faith, not logic. I have faith in following a middle path regarding Jesus. It works for me and makes me a much better person. I would love to believe that Jesus was the Son of God and he only is such as I see that people that believe this are very satisfied and happy with this belief, but I just cannot. I've tried to force myself into this belief but it just isn't happening. Maybe it is illogically not to believe it, but my mind, heart and soul are unable to accept the "logic" Lewis proposes. YMMV.

Nice to know there is someone else who feels like I do.

[Anonymous]

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As for being the dumbest poster of the year, I had my IQ measured once by a profesional service, and the machine actually broke. They told me I was quote unquote "off the charts".

Well, if the first post didn't win you the award, this one did.

IQ is not something measured by a machine like your blood pressure. It is measured using a test of various kinds of problems.

IQ is simply a measurement of ("intellectual age" over physical age) x 100. So, if your IQ is 100 your intellectual age and your physical age are aligned - i.e., you're as good at solving the test problems as your supposed to be given your age.

Thus, the machine is not going to break because your IQ is too high.

There is no IQ that is "off the charts." (And, just for future reference, since the written text actually includes quotation marks,you don't need to write "quote unquote" before you put something in quotes.)

If you paid for such a test from a "profesional service" sic and got those results, you were scammed.

Oh, its so easy to scoff, and to mock, isn't it, pp?

Well, do you know who else was mocked and scoffed at?

Any guesses?

Well, let's just say he has a birthday coming up soon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

As for being the dumbest poster of the year, I had my IQ measured once by a profesional service, and the machine actually broke. They told me I was quote unquote "off the charts".

Well, if the first post didn't win you the award, this one did.

IQ is not something measured by a machine like your blood pressure. It is measured using a test of various kinds of problems.

IQ is simply a measurement of ("intellectual age" over physical age) x 100. So, if your IQ is 100 your intellectual age and your physical age are aligned - i.e., you're as good at solving the test problems as your supposed to be given your age.

Thus, the machine is not going to break because your IQ is too high.

There is no IQ that is "off the charts." (And, just for future reference, since the written text actually includes quotation marks,you don't need to write "quote unquote" before you put something in quotes.)

If you paid for such a test from a "profesional service" sic and got those results, you were scammed.

Oh, its so easy to scoff, and to mock, isn't it, pp?

Well, do you know who else was mocked and scoffed at?

Any guesses?

Well, let's just say he has a birthday coming up soon.

Jesus was born in September, by the analysis of any Biblical scholar or historian. A birthday in 9 months isn't exactly "coming up soon."

[Anonymous]

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Jesus was born in September, by the analysis of any Biblical scholar or historian. A birthday in 9 months isn't exactly "coming up soon."

I don't think so. Read the bible, dumbass, instead of relying on some liberal cardigan-wearing college profs to tell you how to think!

In fact, you probably don't even have a bible, so just look at the calendar - notice what it says on December 25?

[Anonymous]

Many people who enjoy Christmas believe Jesus was an important historical figure, but don't believe in prophets or messiahs, or god, or son's of god.

Long before Christ theres was a celebration of the winter solstice towards the end of December. When you stuff goodies into a stocking, it's a tradition that goes back thousands of years before Christianity

The word "Christmas". Well, I guess we could call it something else but I don't know why believers would want that. I love the season of Christmas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Jesus was born in September, by the analysis of any Biblical scholar or historian. A birthday in 9 months isn't exactly "coming up soon."

I don't think so. Read the bible, dumbass, instead of relying on some liberal cardigan-wearing college profs to tell you how to think!

In fact, you probably don't even have a bible, so just look at the calendar - notice what it says on December 25?

According to the Bible, Jesus was not born in December. You may want to actually read your Bible thoroughly, instead of relying on popular folklore.

http://www.ucg.org/doctrinal-beliefs/biblical-evidence-shows-jesus-christ-wasnt-born-dec-25/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

According to the Bible, Jesus was not born in December. You may want to actually read your Bible thoroughly, instead of relying on popular folklore.

http://www.ucg.org/doctrinal-beliefs/biblical-evidence-shows-jesus-christ-wasnt-born-dec-25/

I will pray for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

According to the Bible, Jesus was not born in December. You may want to actually read your Bible thoroughly, instead of relying on popular folklore.

http://www.ucg.org/doctrinal-beliefs/biblical-evidence-shows-jesus-christ-wasnt-born-dec-25/

I will pray for you.

Well bless your heart!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

According to the Bible, Jesus was not born in December. You may want to actually read your Bible thoroughly, instead of relying on popular folklore.

http://www.ucg.org/doctrinal-beliefs/biblical-evidence-shows-jesus-christ-wasnt-born-dec-25/

I will pray for you.

I'm a Christian, and have known since I was a child that the date was unknown, most likely fall. A few years ago I read a study based on astronomy and what "star" (likely a comet or planet) the wise men followed. Wish I could find it...