Madison HS or the IB program at Marshall HS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We live in Vienna and my kids go to Marshall. I would say they have an equal number of friends at Madison and Marshall since many of their classmates from elementary and middle school are at Madison. I can count the kids they know at Oakton on one hand.

Oakton has a Vienna address, but the majority of Vienna kids go to Madison or Marshall.

Marshall does have a Falls Church address, but probably at least half if not more of its students are from Vienna.

Hard to go wrong with any school in this area so it's a wonder folks get so worked up about this. If you're comfortable with the education your kids are getting who cares?

And int terms of athletic programs, I wouldn't count Marshall out as the area continues to grow. These things change over time. The freshman class at GCM is the biggest in history with more than 500 kids and the impact is already evident in the success of the freshman teams, including football, which defeated Madison this year.

JV and Varsity both crushed Marshall.

Yes they did. But it's called a pipeline. Sure kids in some of those stem academy courses you demean would understand the concept.

You must not be reading the forum. The "best and the brightest" worry about concussions by the time they are sophomores.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Marshall doesn't have over 500 freshmen.

Not sure the numbers on the website are correct. School recently told parents there were 510 freshman.

There could be over 500 freshmen if the students reported by FCPS as Special Ed students are also assigned to grade levels. It's no different from the county reporting of AAP students at middle schools as Level IV students rather than
seventh or eighth graders.

Mystery solved.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:2013 SATs

TJ 2197
Langley 1837
Woodson 1792
McLean 1781
Oakton 1754
Madison 1753
Marshall 1714

Again, top six schools in county are all AP, not IB.

And these scores demonstrate what? My senior scored 2300 and went to Marshall. Don't think the school actually hurt.

Outlier. 'Nuff said.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Madison has won the Wachovia Cup for combination of athletics/academics at least five times. Has Marshall ever been in the running for this award?

We already know that Marshall athletics aren't as strong as madison.

Asking about awards is kind of dumb because they are subjective to the strengths of the individual school's programs.

It would be like me saying "How come I don't see Madison in the top finalist for the Cyber Patriot Awards"

It's because Marshall has a focus on STEM where as Madison doesn't.

http://www.uscyberpatriot.org/Pages/default.aspx

Academics are a significant component of the Wachovia Cup awards. If Marshall were stronger at either academics or athletics, you would probably know that already.

Marshall may have a better program for future hairdressers than Madison, so maybe it will get the Hair Cuttery Cup.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Madison has won the Wachovia Cup for combination of athletics/academics at least five times. Has Marshall ever been in the running for this award?

We already know that Marshall athletics aren't as strong as madison.

Asking about awards is kind of dumb because they are subjective to the strengths of the individual school's programs.

It would be like me saying "How come I don't see Madison in the top finalist for the Cyber Patriot Awards"

It's because Marshall has a focus on STEM where as Madison doesn't.

http://www.uscyberpatriot.org/Pages/default.aspx

Academics are a significant component of the Wachovia Cup awards. If Marshall were stronger at either academics or athletics, you would probably know that already.

Marshall may have a better program for future hairdressers than Madison, so maybe it will get the Hair Cuttery Cup.

I guess you don't bother comprehending what exactly the STEM program entails and how it relates to the Cyber Patriot Cup.

If you want to believe that science, technology, engineering and math is related to cutting hair I don't have high hopes for you or your children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Madison has won the Wachovia Cup for combination of athletics/academics at least five times. Has Marshall ever been in the running for this award?

We already know that Marshall athletics aren't as strong as madison.

Asking about awards is kind of dumb because they are subjective to the strengths of the individual school's programs.

It would be like me saying "How come I don't see Madison in the top finalist for the Cyber Patriot Awards"

It's because Marshall has a focus on STEM where as Madison doesn't.

http://www.uscyberpatriot.org/Pages/default.aspx

Academics are a significant component of the Wachovia Cup awards. If Marshall were stronger at either academics or athletics, you would probably know that already.

Marshall may have a better program for future hairdressers than Madison, so maybe it will get the Hair Cuttery Cup.

I guess you don't bother comprehending what exactly the STEM program entails and how it relates to the Cyber Patriot Cup.

If you want to believe that science, technology, engineering and math is related to cutting hair I don't have high hopes for you or your children.

Marshall is playing catch up. Madison already is considered one of the country's top STEM schools.

http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/national-rankings/stem

[Anonymous]

Which school has the better golf team? That will tell you all you need to know...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Which school has the better golf team? That will tell you all you need to know...

Which school doesn't have a crew team? That will tell you even more.

[Anonymous]

Wow, the nastiness! And who says these schools aren't rivals?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:2013 SATs

TJ 2197
Langley 1837
Woodson 1792
McLean 1781
Oakton 1754
Madison 1753
Marshall 1714

Again, top six schools in county are all AP, not IB.

Total averages don't tell the whole picture.
If you look at the average sat scores by demographic, it gets really interesting. Here are the rankings by SAT scores of white students...

TJ 2215
Langley 1841
Woodson 1830
Marshall 1826
McLean 1803
Madison 1792
Oakton 1786

[Anonymous]

I'm sure the OP has decided to move out of Vienna already.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which school has the better golf team? That will tell you all you need to know...

Which school doesn't have a crew team? That will tell you even more.

I never realized that a shortage of Sperry-wearing yuppies was an academic disadvantage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow, the nastiness! And who says these schools aren't rivals?

+1. I don't understand why this thread has dissolved into character attacks on a great FCPS school. I graduated from Marshall in the mid-2000s, so not *that* long ago, and Madison was absolutely our biggest rival. As a PP mentioned, it's because the students mixed in elementary/middle. The disparity in test scores that others have (quite rudely) pointed out is likely due to the fact that Marshall has a higher immigrant population than Madison. I would place bets on the OP's child doing just as well at Marshall as he/she would do at Madison.

Anyway, that is a moot point because OP asked about IB vs. AP, not about sports or test scores. That is a very personal decision and comes down to your child's strengths, where they are going and what they foresee doing in college, etc. I had a wonderful experience with the Marshall IB program. From what I can tell, my peers in the program are all doing very well several years out of college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2013 SATs

TJ 2197
Langley 1837
Woodson 1792
McLean 1781
Oakton 1754
Madison 1753
Marshall 1714

Again, top six schools in county are all AP, not IB.

Total averages don't tell the whole picture.
If you look at the average sat scores by demographic, it gets really interesting. Here are the rankings by SAT scores of white students...

TJ 2215
Langley 1841
Woodson 1830
Marshall 1826
McLean 1803
Madison 1792
Oakton 1786

Where did you get that

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Madison has won the Wachovia Cup for combination of athletics/academics at least five times. Has Marshall ever been in the running for this award?

We already know that Marshall athletics aren't as strong as madison.

Asking about awards is kind of dumb because they are subjective to the strengths of the individual school's programs.

It would be like me saying "How come I don't see Madison in the top finalist for the Cyber Patriot Awards"

It's because Marshall has a focus on STEM where as Madison doesn't.

http://www.uscyberpatriot.org/Pages/default.aspx

You sound insufferable. Believe it or not, not everyone is cut out for or wants to attend a traditional 4-year college. The fact that Marshall has a successful and well-regarded trade program

Academics are a significant component of the Wachovia Cup awards. If Marshall were stronger at either academics or athletics, you would probably know that already.

Marshall may have a better program for future hairdressers than Madison, so maybe it will get the Hair Cuttery Cup.

Believe it or not, not everyone is cut out for - or even interested in attending - a traditional 4 year college. The fact that Marshall has a well-regarded and successful trade program should be celebrated, not attacked. It provides opportunities for a lot of kids.