Easiest IVY to get into?

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If you are an URM, Brown. Otherwise hotel management at Cornell.

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Cornell Science and Engineering is probably better rated than most of the other Ivys and very hard to get into.
Helps for grad program admissions as Cornell STEM is extremely well respected in academic circles.

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All the annoying striver kids that were obsessed with HYPS in my kid’s high school seemed to end up at Cornell.

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Cornell, Dartmouth, Brown. In that order.

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So basically they are all the same. That's what I see in that chart.

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Cornell ILR school or human ecology. You’ll get to wear the sweatshirt and no one will know any better.

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Anonymous wrote:All the annoying striver kids that were obsessed with HYPS in my kid’s high school seemed to end up at Cornell.

You sound especially dim on a board full of imbeciles.

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Anonymous wrote:And the Ag School is a NY state school, which means it is easier to get in as a NY resident but not from out-of-state. None of the Ivies is at all easy to get into, and I think this question is ridiculous on lots of levels.

If you get into the ag school, are you stuck studying agriculture related subjects? lol. Or can you switch to another school and major in something else? Just curious.

Who would be stupid enough to lie about a major just to get into a school?

Actually, the Ag school has some majors that aren't ag related. My cousin was in the Ag school as an business marketing major. She landed a job at a top ad agency in NYC after graduation.

Not sure if it’s still the case, but 20 years ago you could do a biology degree in the Ag school. Same subject specific classes as the biology degree in the college of arts and sciences. Few differences: at the time tuition was about $7-8k less which made a huge difference for my loan balance 2. There is a restriction on the number of classes you can take from outside the state colleges without needing to pay the tuition difference. 3. I don’t think I was required to take a language, but did anyway. I believe there is also an engineering program in the ag school.

Cornell alum here ('90) who went into Ag as a biology major (although I ended up in Arts as an East Asian Studies major) and I was looking up Ag vs. Arts the other day to see whether it's reasonable for us as a doughnut-hole family to think about our kids applying ED for the legacy boost. I was unpleasantly surprised to find out that Ag (they call it CALS now apparently) and other land grant colleges charge exactly the same tuition for out-of-state as the endowed colleges do. Yikes.

https://finaid.cornell.edu/cost-attend

It's too bad, because Ag has a ton of cool, mostly STEM programs:

https://cals.cornell.edu/academics/departments-majors/

And anyone who thinks that Cornell is for slackers and Ivy-level wannabes...you have no idea how hard Cornell is. Don't knock hotel management either -- it's basically a business degree. I know hotelies who are now running hedge funds and pulling in the big bucks, but they were working their butts off in college.

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Anonymous wrote:All the annoying striver kids that were obsessed with HYPS in my kid’s high school seemed to end up at Cornell.

You sound especially dim on a board full of imbeciles.

+1. Certified idiot who likely never graduated from college.

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Anonymous wrote:I have to laugh at the people on this site, constantly putting down an Ivy is "lessor" when in all probability neither they nor their children ever have a chance of admissions..

So true...anyone who has been through process in last 5 yrs knows it is a crap shoot for event he most qualified.
DDs friend could not be a nicer kid - super smart, well rounded accomplished - didn't get into ED ivy. It's rough.

I broke this down last year after a great kid I know didn't get into HYP, but ended up at a "lesser" Ivy where they are thriving. Posted it once before, but will do it again.

These stats are based on Princeton's press release announcing its Class of 2020 admissions results.
https://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S45/94/44G37/index.xml?section=topstories

1894 students admitted for the Class of 2020

50.6% are people of color, filling 958 spots

12% are international, filling 227 spots

17.5% are first generation, if you conservatively assume that just one-third of those kids are neither POC or international, you fill another 109 spots

11% are alumni kids, if you estimate two-thirds are not POC or international, that’s another 34 spots

The Yale Daily News reports that Princeton admits about 200 recruited athletes per year. If you assume that just 25% of those athletes aren’t in the categories above, that’s 50 more spots filled.

That’s conservatively 1,378 spots filled, leaving just 516 spots in the class for white, non-legacy, non-athlete applicants whose parents went to college.

Since Princeton admits women and men in equal numbers, that means about 258 "non-hooked" boys and 258 girls got into Princeton last year. The number is probably even lower when you take out Development admits, faculty kids, and others. The only two local kids I'm acquainted with who have gotten into Princeton in the last 3 years were both recruited athletes.

What kind of a bubble do you live in that you don't know any Asians, women, or multi racial students? Why narrow the funnel to focus on the impact on white boys? I could do the same mathematical exercise with any group.

Knock yourself out. My friend's kid is an unhooked white girl, trying to understand not getting into HYP despite being #1 in her class, captain of 2 varsity sports (but not a recruited athlete), having a 35 ACT and 2 800 SAT IIs. So I used the limited data Princeton provided to let her know that only 258 (and probably fewer) unhooked white girls in the entire United States were accepted last year. That number was surprisingly small to both of us, and helped giver her perspective on why she wasn't admitted.

I look forward to the additional insights your analysis will provide.

How are 50% people of color? Is that anyone who is non white? so it could be all asians?

Also what does 'non hooked' mean?

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Anonymous wrote:I have to laugh at the people on this site, constantly putting down an Ivy is "lessor" when in all probability neither they nor their children ever have a chance of admissions..

So true...anyone who has been through process in last 5 yrs knows it is a crap shoot for event he most qualified.
DDs friend could not be a nicer kid - super smart, well rounded accomplished - didn't get into ED ivy. It's rough.

I broke this down last year after a great kid I know didn't get into HYP, but ended up at a "lesser" Ivy where they are thriving. Posted it once before, but will do it again.

These stats are based on Princeton's press release announcing its Class of 2020 admissions results.
https://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S45/94/44G37/index.xml?section=topstories

1894 students admitted for the Class of 2020

50.6% are people of color, filling 958 spots

12% are international, filling 227 spots

17.5% are first generation, if you conservatively assume that just one-third of those kids are neither POC or international, you fill another 109 spots

11% are alumni kids, if you estimate two-thirds are not POC or international, that’s another 34 spots

The Yale Daily News reports that Princeton admits about 200 recruited athletes per year. If you assume that just 25% of those athletes aren’t in the categories above, that’s 50 more spots filled.

That’s conservatively 1,378 spots filled, leaving just 516 spots in the class for white, non-legacy, non-athlete applicants whose parents went to college.

Since Princeton admits women and men in equal numbers, that means about 258 "non-hooked" boys and 258 girls got into Princeton last year. The number is probably even lower when you take out Development admits, faculty kids, and others. The only two local kids I'm acquainted with who have gotten into Princeton in the last 3 years were both recruited athletes.

What kind of a bubble do you live in that you don't know any Asians, women, or multi racial students? Why narrow the funnel to focus on the impact on white boys? I could do the same mathematical exercise with any group.

Knock yourself out. My friend's kid is an unhooked white girl, trying to understand not getting into HYP despite being #1 in her class, captain of 2 varsity sports (but not a recruited athlete), having a 35 ACT and 2 800 SAT IIs. So I used the limited data Princeton provided to let her know that only 258 (and probably fewer) unhooked white girls in the entire United States were accepted last year. That number was surprisingly small to both of us, and helped giver her perspective on why she wasn't admitted.

I look forward to the additional insights your analysis will provide.

How are 50% people of color? Is that anyone who is non white? so it could be all asians?

Also what does 'non hooked' mean?

non-hooked = not a recruited athlete, not a URM, not a legacy.

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Cornell

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Cornell esp. if you are going for the "state schools"

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This question is so stupid. Are you just applying to these schools in the hope that you get into an ivy to say you go to an ivy? So which one is the easiest?

If that is your way to finding a great college for your child, you are going about it all wrong.

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The answer is that none of them are "easy" to get into OP. I know people who had good scores/grades and couldn't even get into UMD much less an Ivy.