Teacher Photos Online

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I still don't get how a simple google search produced these images? I guess I don't know much about finding nude pictures ... just seems to me it would have required more digging

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Because if a simple google search is all it took, they would've been discovered a long time ago.

Most employers are googling prospective employees these days. And they didn't find them? Nor did a snoopy teen? AND they're from a past as a 'nude model'?

People are too nosey and self-righteous for me these days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, the school should know. That demonstrates pretty poor judgement on the part of the teacher in general, and could be very confusing or disturbing to children. If you choose to work with children please keep your photos to yourself. I would QUIETLY tell school admin and ask them to speak to teacher. Doesn't do anyone any good if word gets out!

Okay, so teachers lose their first amendment rights when they choose to teach?

As long as a teacher isn't showing the pictures to students or otherwise mixing them up with her teaching, I don't see why the school has to know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, the school should know. That demonstrates pretty poor judgement on the part of the teacher in general, and could be very confusing or disturbing to children. If you choose to work with children please keep your photos to yourself. I would QUIETLY tell school admin and ask them to speak to teacher. Doesn't do anyone any good if word gets out!

Okay, so teachers lose their first amendment rights when they choose to teach?

As long as a teacher isn't showing the pictures to students or otherwise mixing them up with her teaching, I don't see why the school has to know.

I'll just add that as long as said pictures don't become a distraction--ie: students find out about them--there's no big deal.

The problem is that so many parents are more concerned with trying to run schools and teachers than they are with worrying about their own homes and families. As long as the teacher is effective in the classroom (and his pics haven't become a known issue), MYOB.

The fact that some parents think it's okay to expose a teacher's past like that is ridiculous. Everyone has a past/things they'd like to keep private. How about I QUIETLY tell your boss about the affair or money troubles your family is having? Don't those two things mean you lack integrity, are untrustworthy, and too irresponsible to handle your own finances to be trusted with your employers business?

See how that works?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, the school should know. That demonstrates pretty poor judgement on the part of the teacher in general, and could be very confusing or disturbing to children. If you choose to work with children please keep your photos to yourself. I would QUIETLY tell school admin and ask them to speak to teacher. Doesn't do anyone any good if word gets out!

Okay, so teachers lose their first amendment rights when they choose to teach?

As long as a teacher isn't showing the pictures to students or otherwise mixing them up with her teaching, I don't see why the school has to know.



I'll just add that as long as said pictures don't become a distraction--ie: students find out about them--there's no big deal.

The problem is that so many parents are more concerned with trying to run schools and teachers than they are with worrying about their own homes and families. As long as the teacher is effective in the classroom (and his pics haven't become a known issue), MYOB.

The fact that some parents think it's okay to expose a teacher's past like that is ridiculous. Everyone has a past/things they'd like to keep private. How about I QUIETLY tell your boss about the affair or money troubles your family is having? Don't those two things mean you lack integrity, are untrustworthy, and too irresponsible to handle your own finances to be trusted with your employers business?

See how that works?

Right. Everyone has a right to their private life and just because some PPs don't like it doesn't mean they should have any power to expose anyone's private life.

Why stop there? What about any pictures your pediatrician might have out there? Should you try to get her fired as well by helpfully telling the hospital administration? After all, doctors should be held to a higher standard. See? Not such a slippery slope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, the school should know. That demonstrates pretty poor judgement on the part of the teacher in general, and could be very confusing or disturbing to children. If you choose to work with children please keep your photos to yourself. I would QUIETLY tell school admin and ask them to speak to teacher. Doesn't do anyone any good if word gets out!

Okay, so teachers lose their first amendment rights when they choose to teach?

As long as a teacher isn't showing the pictures to students or otherwise mixing them up with her teaching, I don't see why the school has to know.



I'll just add that as long as said pictures don't become a distraction--ie: students find out about them--there's no big deal.

The problem is that so many parents are more concerned with trying to run schools and teachers than they are with worrying about their own homes and families. As long as the teacher is effective in the classroom (and his pics haven't become a known issue), MYOB.

The fact that some parents think it's okay to expose a teacher's past like that is ridiculous. Everyone has a past/things they'd like to keep private. How about I QUIETLY tell your boss about the affair or money troubles your family is having? Don't those two things mean you lack integrity, are untrustworthy, and too irresponsible to handle your own finances to be trusted with your employers business?

See how that works?

Right. Everyone has a right to their private life and just because some PPs don't like it doesn't mean they should have any power to expose anyone's private life.

Why stop there? What about any pictures your pediatrician might have out there? Should you try to get her fired as well by helpfully telling the hospital administration? After all, doctors should be held to a higher standard. See? Not such a slippery slope.

Hell, the damn cashier at Walmart should be fired. After all, having a past life as a nude model simply MUST mean that today you lack decency and good decision making skills. I don't think such a person should be trusted around cashiers and all that money that comes in and out of Walmart. What if they try to encourage their colleagues to follow their horrible example? After all, some of the people working there are...gasp...TEENS! Oh the HORROR! Next thing you know we'll have a bunch of nude modeling Walmart workers with pics floating on the 'net!

PS The bolded is truly what it's about--allowing someone to have their own private life and maintain their dignity. We live in such a world of miserable people who want to expose and harm others simply because they're miserable. The worst part is that they try to cloak their misery in a cloud of care and concern for the younguns. Seems the younguns don't know and didn't even care enough to google and find this man's pics. So who are you really trying to 'protect'?

[Anonymous]

And let's remember the tried and true equation of reaping and sowing.

In the same way this person sets out to expose and embarrass this man, I GUAR-AN-TEEEEEE the same will happen to them.

Karma is real.

[Anonymous]

Wow, a lot of people in this discussion have a LOT of issues and obviously have a lot of skeletons in their closets - partially-clothed skeletons in compromising poses, obviously!

To all the people saying "How did OP find the photos? A simple google search isn't enough!", well only OP can explain how she specifically found them, but seriously, I feel sorry for you guys because your kids are either already or will be running circles around you with their internet use, if you don't understand how these pics can be found! Are you kidding me?

Name of teacher + curious students + internet = If there's dirt to be found under their name, it will be found!

It's stunning to me that it's a mystery to you how anyone would find these pics. When it's happened to 2 teachers I know of, it was kids who found the pics. Why is that suprising? If we'd had the internet when I was in high school, I can absolutely imagine us at an overnight party looking up all our teachers on Facebook and googling them to see what comes up. But it only takes one bored child with a smartphone or computer access to dig up a photo, and then it's viral.

Why is this so surprising to so many of you?

And to all those saying "it's privacy, it's about privacy", you need to wake up and welcome yourself to 2013. There is a level of privacy that people deserve. But guess what? When you take compromising photos (and it really is ONLY about compromising photos - tastefully done clothed photos that are clearly artistic are simply not going to get anyone fired), even if you don't post them online, you need to realize you never ever know what will happen. I've had several past boyfriends (and current DH) try to talk me into taking photos or videos. And I always say the same thing: "Right now, everything's great and you'd never use them against me. But who knows what could happen?" and I don't take the pics.

Everyone doesn't know that, ok, I get it. And sometimes people are forced to take pics in absuive relationships or other situations they didn't choose and don't feel they can get out of. And I seriously and sincerely feel for them.

But the end result is the same: once compromising photosa are captured, and especially when you or anyone else posts them online, you lose your right to privacy once they're "out there". If I can find it by googling you or being your FB friend, that's it, privacy GONE (no matter what your privacy settings are). And there are some fields and professions (and simply some employers, regardless of what field) who will see your compromising photo presence online as poor judgement and it will cost you.

It's reality, it's part of living in this cyber world, and you can huff and puff on DCUM all you want about firing the Walmart cashier; it won't change that you have zero control over how other people use what's online or respond to what's online if they find it.

And a last note about karma: if you think you're doing the right thing, and that you are protecting your kids and being responsible, karma is not going to come back and bite you. Depending on the level of the photos and if kids were the ones to find them, it is totally understandable that a parent would be concerned and tell the school. You don't get to choose other people's reactions, and if you really want to have that level of privacy, don't take the pics and certainly don't post them online!

[Anonymous]

nd that you are protecting your kids and being responsible, karma is not going to come back and bite you.

Protect them from what, exactly?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

nd that you are protecting your kids and being responsible, karma is not going to come back and bite you.

Protect them from what, exactly?

That depends on what was in the photos, how readily accessible they were, and other factors. Can't give you some single, exact answer that applies to every situation, there are a lot of variables. More importantly though, not only are there variables, there are variables in how different parents react to the exact same situation if everything else is equal (same teacher, school, photos, way kids or anyone found them). 10 different parents could have 10 different levels of concern for what the pics and situation say to them about this teacher teaching their kids, and as parents they have a right to respond.

This board is full of parents making parental choices that they think is best for their kids. Proabably everyone on here who reads DCUM a lot (especially the Parenting section) has read something that made them go "WTF???" but that's it: different parents see different things as being in the best interest of their kids. You can rant, rave, even call CPS on different situations, but short of illegal activity, you can do NOTHING about how another parent chooses to provide for, nurture, and protect their kids. And if your nudie pics end up on a parent's radar and you interact with their kid, tough luck. Karma will not protect you, nor will it bite that parent back just because YOU think it's an over-reaction. Karma has its own mind about things, don't we all know that!

[Anonymous]

. And if your nudie pics end up on a parent's radar and you interact with their kid, tough luck. Karma will not protect you, nor will it bite that parent back just because YOU think it's an over-reaction.

this makes no sense at all. you still didn't answer the question. what are you protecting your children from?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow, a lot of people in this discussion have a LOT of issues and obviously have a lot of skeletons in their closets - partially-clothed skeletons in compromising poses, obviously!

To all the people saying "How did OP find the photos? A simple google search isn't enough!", well only OP can explain how she specifically found them, but seriously, I feel sorry for you guys because your kids are either already or will be running circles around you with their internet use, if you don't understand how these pics can be found! Are you kidding me?

Name of teacher + curious students + internet = If there's dirt to be found under their name, it will be found!

It's stunning to me that it's a mystery to you how anyone would find these pics. When it's happened to 2 teachers I know of, it was kids who found the pics. Why is that suprising? If we'd had the internet when I was in high school, I can absolutely imagine us at an overnight party looking up all our teachers on Facebook and googling them to see what comes up. But it only takes one bored child with a smartphone or computer access to dig up a photo, and then it's viral.

Why is this so surprising to so many of you?

And to all those saying "it's privacy, it's about privacy", you need to wake up and welcome yourself to 2013. There is a level of privacy that people deserve. But guess what? When you take compromising photos (and it really is ONLY about compromising photos - tastefully done clothed photos that are clearly artistic are simply not going to get anyone fired), even if you don't post them online, you need to realize you never ever know what will happen. I've had several past boyfriends (and current DH) try to talk me into taking photos or videos. And I always say the same thing: "Right now, everything's great and you'd never use them against me. But who knows what could happen?" and I don't take the pics.

Everyone doesn't know that, ok, I get it. And sometimes people are forced to take pics in absuive relationships or other situations they didn't choose and don't feel they can get out of. And I seriously and sincerely feel for them.

But the end result is the same: once compromising photosa are captured, and especially when you or anyone else posts them online, you lose your right to privacy once they're "out there". If I can find it by googling you or being your FB friend, that's it, privacy GONE (no matter what your privacy settings are). And there are some fields and professions (and simply some employers, regardless of what field) who will see your compromising photo presence online as poor judgement and it will cost you.

It's reality, it's part of living in this cyber world, and you can huff and puff on DCUM all you want about firing the Walmart cashier; it won't change that you have zero control over how other people use what's online or respond to what's online if they find it.

And a last note about karma: if you think you're doing the right thing, and that you are protecting your kids and being responsible, karma is not going to come back and bite you. Depending on the level of the photos and if kids were the ones to find them, it is totally understandable that a parent would be concerned and tell the school. You don't get to choose other people's reactions, and if you really want to have that level of privacy, don't take the pics and certainly don't post them online!

This long rant is much ado about NOTHING.

STUDENTS did NOT find the pics. The fact that a meddling ADULT found them baffles me. Who googles their child's teacher and why?

And if a STUDENT found the pics and spread them around to their friends (which would not surprise me; after all, they are silly kids) I'd say, "Oh well silly teacher brought it on himself. That's how kids are."

An ADULT who obviously had to go on a HUNT to find these OLD pics from a PAST career as a nude model then making a deliberate decision to try to ruin this person's rep or career is something totally different. In fact, it's really MEAN SPIRITED and NASTY. The fact that the photos have been out there all this time without being discovered is evidence of that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

. And if your nudie pics end up on a parent's radar and you interact with their kid, tough luck. Karma will not protect you, nor will it bite that parent back just because YOU think it's an over-reaction.

this makes no sense at all. you still didn't answer the question. what are you protecting your children from?

This is what I'd like to know as well.

What is the child being protected from.

This is a teacher, who by all accounts is obviously effective and has no issues as far as his job performance.

So there are pics of him nude.

What are you protecting children from by 'exposing' him? A person who comes to school nude under his clothing everyday?

[Anonymous]

^^ I don't want my child exposed to someone who's evidence of poor judgment is out there for the world to see. Sure, there's other conduct out there just as bad if not worse and parents don't know about it. But, when it's in your face, caring adults have to respond. If this teacher had other issues and no one said anything, how would everyone feel if those behaviors came out later. What would everyone say if, for example, the teacher was a pedophile and was taking nude photos of the kids? I'm sure the connection would be made. I also wouldn't want someone who was a smoker around the kids, so if I saw a teacher lighting up anywhere there was a chance the kids could see, I would tell the school. You can call me extreme, but I'd say those who don't give a darn and have no standards for who should be allowed to impact children are extremely foolish. And as far as people coming to school naked under their clothes, so porn is okay because people have sex at home in their beds. The logic here is nonsensical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^ I don't want my child exposed to someone who's evidence of poor judgment is out there for the world to see. Sure, there's other conduct out there just as bad if not worse and parents don't know about it. But, when it's in your face, caring adults have to respond. If this teacher had other issues and no one said anything, how would everyone feel if those behaviors came out later. What would everyone say if, for example, the teacher was a pedophile and was taking nude photos of the kids? I'm sure the connection would be made. I also wouldn't want someone who was a smoker around the kids, so if I saw a teacher lighting up anywhere there was a chance the kids could see, I would tell the school. You can call me extreme, but I'd say those who don't give a darn and have no standards for who should be allowed to impact children are extremely foolish. And as far as people coming to school naked under their clothes, so porn is okay because people have sex at home in their beds. The logic here is nonsensical.

You wouldn't want a smoker around kids???? I can't stand cigarette smoke either, and I don't know of anyone who smokes personally. But reporting a teacher who lights up??? Really? Yes, I'd say you're extreme and it has nothing to do with having standards either. There are standards then there's self-righteous neurosis. I'm quite sure some of my children's teachers have smoked over the years. But it's NEVER been an issue. And if I saw pics of their teachers smoking online, guess what? I wouldn't give a damn! I'm also stable enough to not draw the conclusion that said pic would mean the teacher would one day blow smoke in kids' faces and take a hookah to school.

Now you've gone and make the connection between a person who had a CAREER in nude modeling and a pedo who takes naked pics of children????? Your arms MUST be tired from REACHING so damn far!

Then you've jumped from people having sex at home in their beds to porn??? Your problem is that illogical REACH thing you do. YOU'RE the one who would assume that a person having sex at home would mean they'd have sex in school with the kiddies. (kinda like the nude model taking pics of the students.)

How about I find out about some of your personal biz online and contact your boss? Cause your debt/bankruptcy filings must mean poor judgement, right? And those marital problems? Must mean some sort of mental breakdown is just boiling beneath the surface, waiting to erupt. Court filings/judgments, divorce/financial records, etc are ALL out there for the world to see. So according to YOUR logic no one should have a job.

[Anonymous]

^^ Next time just don't post naked!! Geez, you're crazy ranting on here taking out your pain on DCUM is just madness. Stop it! Just stop it!!!