Whatever happened to Klebod and Harris' parents?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the book or seen the interviews, but I find it interesting that Harris is portrayed as the psychopath and Klebold as the follower. That may be true. But as an outside observer, it does seem like most of the "blame" if you will, is attributed to Harris. And it's Harris's family we haven't heard from, whereas we have heard from Klebolds.

Again, I'm not entirely reading anything into this. I would like to hear from the Harris family. They certainly have a right to privacy and don't owe us anything, but the "true story" (if there ever even is such a thing) is certainly incomplete without their perspective.

I think both teens were equally messed up:
http://www.biography.com/people/eric-harris-235982#attack-on-columbine-high

Wearing swastikas, committing petty crimes, collecting guns, videotaping and documenting their plans--they both did this. Both sets of parents, the school were out of touch and let alienated, mentally ill youth go way off the rails.

The more things change, the more they stay the same. The Boston bombers friends helped him get rid of the evidence--they knew he was guilty; they knew people died and were maimed. Klebold and Harris' friends knew what was going to happen. No one says anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the book or seen the interviews, but I find it interesting that Harris is portrayed as the psychopath and Klebold as the follower. That may be true. But as an outside observer, it does seem like most of the "blame" if you will, is attributed to Harris. And it's Harris's family we haven't heard from, whereas we have heard from Klebolds.

Again, I'm not entirely reading anything into this. I would like to hear from the Harris family. They certainly have a right to privacy and don't owe us anything, but the "true story" (if there ever even is such a thing) is certainly incomplete without their perspective.

I think both teens were equally messed up:
http://www.biography.com/people/eric-harris-235982#attack-on-columbine-high

Wearing swastikas, committing petty crimes, collecting guns, videotaping and documenting their plans--they both did this. Both sets of parents, the school were out of touch and let alienated, mentally ill youth go way off the rails.

The more things change, the more they stay the same. The Boston bombers friends helped him get rid of the evidence--they knew he was guilty; they knew people died and were maimed. Klebold and Harris' friends knew what was going to happen. No one says anything.

Red flags galore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the book or seen the interviews, but I find it interesting that Harris is portrayed as the psychopath and Klebold as the follower. That may be true. But as an outside observer, it does seem like most of the "blame" if you will, is attributed to Harris. And it's Harris's family we haven't heard from, whereas we have heard from Klebolds.

Again, I'm not entirely reading anything into this. I would like to hear from the Harris family. They certainly have a right to privacy and don't owe us anything, but the "true story" (if there ever even is such a thing) is certainly incomplete without their perspective.

I think both teens were equally messed up:
http://www.biography.com/people/eric-harris-235982#attack-on-columbine-high

Wearing swastikas, committing petty crimes, collecting guns, videotaping and documenting their plans--they both did this. Both sets of parents, the school were out of touch and let alienated, mentally ill youth go way off the rails.

The more things change, the more they stay the same. The Boston bombers friends helped him get rid of the evidence--they knew he was guilty; they knew people died and were maimed. Klebold and Harris' friends knew what was going to happen. No one says anything.

It's hard to believe their parents allowed swastikas in their home. The thought horrifies me, and I'm not even Jewish (but a relative was killed while saving Jews).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the book or seen the interviews, but I find it interesting that Harris is portrayed as the psychopath and Klebold as the follower. That may be true. But as an outside observer, it does seem like most of the "blame" if you will, is attributed to Harris. And it's Harris's family we haven't heard from, whereas we have heard from Klebolds.

Again, I'm not entirely reading anything into this. I would like to hear from the Harris family. They certainly have a right to privacy and don't owe us anything, but the "true story" (if there ever even is such a thing) is certainly incomplete without their perspective.

I think both teens were equally messed up:
http://www.biography.com/people/eric-harris-235982#attack-on-columbine-high

Wearing swastikas, committing petty crimes, collecting guns, videotaping and documenting their plans--they both did this. Both sets of parents, the school were out of touch and let alienated, mentally ill youth go way off the rails.

The more things change, the more they stay the same. The Boston bombers friends helped him get rid of the evidence--they knew he was guilty; they knew people died and were maimed. Klebold and Harris' friends knew what was going to happen. No one says anything.

The biography.com article is barely a glimpse of the story. If anyone cares to gain a better understanding, at least of Dylan Klebold, read his mother's book, read the Columbine book.... read something other than biography.com

[Anonymous]

The book is really well done. And, it will give any parent pause. Obviously, she portrays her family in a very different light and we of course are left with questions and our own judgments as human beings. But, I do believe that she was a good mother. The things that you think she knew (hate speech, swastikas, the guns) , I'm convinced that she didn't. She was in complete denial about her son's involvement until she saw the 'basement tapes' made by her son and Eric Harris.

I have great empathy for all involved including the Klebold and Harris families. Yes, it is possible that your heart can break for all of the victims.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The book is really well done. And, it will give any parent pause. Obviously, she portrays her family in a very different light and we of course are left with questions and our own judgments as human beings. But, I do believe that she was a good mother. The things that you think she knew (hate speech, swastikas, the guns) , I'm convinced that she didn't. She was in complete denial about her son's involvement until she saw the 'basement tapes' made by her son and Eric Harris.

I have great empathy for all involved including the Klebold and Harris families. Yes, it is possible that your heart can break for all of the victims.

Please describe your idea of a "good parent".
Existing in a bubble, disconnected from your child?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The book is really well done. And, it will give any parent pause. Obviously, she portrays her family in a very different light and we of course are left with questions and our own judgments as human beings. But, I do believe that she was a good mother. The things that you think she knew (hate speech, swastikas, the guns) , I'm convinced that she didn't. She was in complete denial about her son's involvement until she saw the 'basement tapes' made by her son and Eric Harris.

I have great empathy for all involved including the Klebold and Harris families. Yes, it is possible that your heart can break for all of the victims.

Please describe your idea of a "good parent".
Existing in a bubble, disconnected from your child?

I think she was very naive, but I think there were things she didn't want to see:
http://www.npr.org/2016/02/16/466618817/sue-klebold-mother-of-columbine-shooter-carries-him-everywhere-i-go-always

Columbine was really a watershed moment in gun violence. Yet in terms of access and availability of mental health services or restriction on gun sales, there's nothing to show for all the pain that the families of the victims endured. None for the families for the theatre shootings,Virginia Tech, Newtown...the things change the more they stay the same

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The book is really well done. And, it will give any parent pause. Obviously, she portrays her family in a very different light and we of course are left with questions and our own judgments as human beings. But, I do believe that she was a good mother. The things that you think she knew (hate speech, swastikas, the guns) , I'm convinced that she didn't. She was in complete denial about her son's involvement until she saw the 'basement tapes' made by her son and Eric Harris.

I have great empathy for all involved including the Klebold and Harris families. Yes, it is possible that your heart can break for all of the victims.

Please describe your idea of a "good parent".
Existing in a bubble, disconnected from your child?

I think she was very naive, but I think there were things she didn't want to see:
http://www.npr.org/2016/02/16/466618817/sue-klebold-mother-of-columbine-shooter-carries-him-everywhere-i-go-always

Columbine was really a watershed moment in gun violence. Yet in terms of access and availability of mental health services or restriction on gun sales, there's nothing to show for all the pain that the families of the victims endured. None for the families for the theatre shootings,Virginia Tech, Newtown...the things change the more they stay the same

Excuses, excuses. You said she was a "good parent", but fail to say what you mean by that. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

Please describe the "good" homes you think these kids came from....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Please describe the "good" homes you think these kids came from....

You go first, what level of understanding about their family life did you take from reading her book?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the book or seen the interviews, but I find it interesting that Harris is portrayed as the psychopath and Klebold as the follower. That may be true. But as an outside observer, it does seem like most of the "blame" if you will, is attributed to Harris. And it's Harris's family we haven't heard from, whereas we have heard from Klebolds.

Again, I'm not entirely reading anything into this. I would like to hear from the Harris family. They certainly have a right to privacy and don't owe us anything, but the "true story" (if there ever even is such a thing) is certainly incomplete without their perspective.

I think both teens were equally messed up:
http://www.biography.com/people/eric-harris-235982#attack-on-columbine-high
Ma
Wearing swastikas, committing petty crimes,lll collecting guns, videotaping and documenting their plans--they both did this. Both sets of parents, the school were out of touch and let alienated, mentally ill youth go way off the rails.

The more things change, the more they stay the same. The Boston bombers friends helped him get rid of the evidence--they knew he was guilty; they knew people died and were maimed. Klebold and Harris' friends knew what was going to happen. No one says anything.

It's hard to believe their parents allowed swastikas in their home. The thought horrifies me, and I'm not even Jewish (but a relative was killed while saving Jews).

This is normal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the book or seen the interviews, but I find it interesting that Harris is portrayed as the psychopath and Klebold as the follower. That may be true. But as an outside observer, it does seem like most of the "blame" if you will, is attributed to Harris. And it's Harris's family we haven't heard from, whereas we have heard from Klebolds.

Again, I'm not entirely reading anything into this. I would like to hear from the Harris family. They certainly have a right to privacy and don't owe us anything, but the "true story" (if there ever even is such a thing) is certainly incomplete without their perspective.

I think both teens were equally messed up:
http://www.biography.com/people/eric-harris-235982#attack-on-columbine-high
Ma
Wearing swastikas, committing petty crimes,lll collecting guns, videotaping and documenting their plans--they both did this. Both sets of parents, the school were out of touch and let alienated, mentally ill youth go way off the rails.

The more things change, the more they stay the same. The Boston bombers friends helped him get rid of the evidence--they knew he was guilty; they knew people died and were maimed. Klebold and Harris' friends knew what was going to happen. No one says anything.

It's hard to believe their parents allowed swastikas in their home. The thought horrifies me, and I'm not even Jewish (but a relative was killed while saving Jews).

This is normal?

Anyone who says those kids were normal are very dangerous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The book is really well done. And, it will give any parent pause. Obviously, she portrays her family in a very different light and we of course are left with questions and our own judgments as human beings. But, I do believe that she was a good mother. The things that you think she knew (hate speech, swastikas, the guns) , I'm convinced that she didn't. She was in complete denial about her son's involvement until she saw the 'basement tapes' made by her son and Eric Harris.

I have great empathy for all involved including the Klebold and Harris families. Yes, it is possible that your heart can break for all of the victims.

If people think she was a "good mother" as you say, she accomplished her mission with her book.

I'm not buying it. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the book or seen the interviews, but I find it interesting that Harris is portrayed as the psychopath and Klebold as the follower. That may be true. But as an outside observer, it does seem like most of the "blame" if you will, is attributed to Harris. And it's Harris's family we haven't heard from, whereas we have heard from Klebolds.

Again, I'm not entirely reading anything into this. I would like to hear from the Harris family. They certainly have a right to privacy and don't owe us anything, but the "true story" (if there ever even is such a thing) is certainly incomplete without their perspective.

I think both teens were equally messed up:
http://www.biography.com/people/eric-harris-235982#attack-on-columbine-high

Wearing swastikas, committing petty crimes, collecting guns, videotaping and documenting their plans--they both did this. Both sets of parents, the school were out of touch and let alienated, mentally ill youth go way off the rails.

The more things change, the more they stay the same. The Boston bombers friends helped him get rid of the evidence--they knew he was guilty; they knew people died and were maimed. Klebold and Harris' friends knew what was going to happen. No one says anything.

It's hard to believe their parents allowed swastikas in their home. The thought horrifies me, and I'm not even Jewish (but a relative was killed while saving Jews).

Um, she didn't allow swastikas. Why don't you please step away from Wikipedia and read books with substance. She made a lot of mistakes. This is not one of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the book or seen the interviews, but I find it interesting that Harris is portrayed as the psychopath and Klebold as the follower. That may be true. But as an outside observer, it does seem like most of the "blame" if you will, is attributed to Harris. And it's Harris's family we haven't heard from, whereas we have heard from Klebolds.

Again, I'm not entirely reading anything into this. I would like to hear from the Harris family. They certainly have a right to privacy and don't owe us anything, but the "true story" (if there ever even is such a thing) is certainly incomplete without their perspective.

I think both teens were equally messed up:
http://www.biography.com/people/eric-harris-235982#attack-on-columbine-high

Wearing swastikas, committing petty crimes, collecting guns, videotaping and documenting their plans--they both did this. Both sets of parents, the school were out of touch and let alienated, mentally ill youth go way off the rails.

The more things change, the more they stay the same. The Boston bombers friends helped him get rid of the evidence--they knew he was guilty; they knew people died and were maimed. Klebold and Harris' friends knew what was going to happen. No one says anything.

It's hard to believe their parents allowed swastikas in their home. The thought horrifies me, and I'm not even Jewish (but a relative was killed while saving Jews).

Um, she didn't allow swastikas. Why don't you please step away from Wikipedia and read books with substance. She made a lot of mistakes. This is not one of them.

Graduation was 2 weeks away. The kid was going to be going off to college - that is what she had her eye on. He would be gone soon...