Redshirt mom vs. Tiger mom -- seeking a competitive advantage?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

eah, I schlep my kids to synagogue and I am completely confused by why you think this is somehow analogous. Synagogue has nothing to do with "enrichment or prep" as you put it. It has to do with passing on our faith and giving them a spiritual foundation. Its not like anyone sits down and says "well, we can go to church or go to Kumon." There are plenty of kids in Kumon whose families have a religious orientation. Personally, I believe that faith can enrich your life but that has absolutely zip zero nothing to do "goals and aspirations." In fact, faith is a sphere that is removed from goals and aspirations, it serves my spirit but doesn't serve my career or whatever.

But, yeah, I do not like kumon unless it serves a specific deficit that a child is facing.

And btw, prodigies earn nothing. The whole point of prodigies is that they have innate talent. Success is earned through hard work. Prodigies can become successful but there are numerous examples -- look at the classical music world -- of prodigies who never achieve success as adults. You don't earn the title of prodigy through hard work, you earn something else.

When you accuse me of jealousy you are, again, stoking your competitiveness. I don't agree with your parenting philosophy, true, but why would that make me jealous? I could have one everything you are doing, I chose not to, and my children are thriving. I hope yours thrive as well. But I suspect that starting in their teen years you will get some push back, at which point I hope you aren't too rigid about adjusting.

I'm glad you like your synagogue where you get grounded and find a spiritual foundation. I have no problem with this. I find a spiritual foundation from my Tiger parents, our culture and I like Kumon. I have no problem with this. Do you? Do you wish to convert me to your faith, beliefs and wishes? If not, move on, and let others pursue their wishes. Their children are certainly not your children and faith means different things to different folk. You have no monopoly on faith, its definition, and the educational and vocational aspirations and wishes of others. Try not to legislate and prescribe your educational, vocational, and academic objectives and aspirations for others. We respect your personal preferences. I love my Tiger mom. I do not want a Redshirt mom, a silicone busted mom, a Starbuck mom, a globe trotting mom, a xanax popping mom, a mom with a therapist, a mom on antidepressants, a divorcee mom, a single mom or any mom like you. Why? because I love my Tiger mom and you can't have her.

There are those children for whom their parents prefer lacrosse camp and those for whom parents prefer math camp. Sorry, you don't approve. Lacrosse camps come and go and a friend of mine told me Kumon is still in business after 50 plus years! Hail to the marketplace.

Lazy bums (self-annointed prodigees or not) don't amount to a hill of beans in the big picture of life.

So, is writing a post and trying to make it look like your child wrote it about you classic Tiger Mom behavior? Just askin...

[Anonymous]

I know I have more education than you, hence your stupid comment. I love my Tiger mom. Perhaps if your kids got off the couch, colleges would not have to waste their time and effort reteaching them to read and write ... something they should have learned in elementary school (including math).

[Anonymous]

So, is writing a post and trying to make it look like your child wrote it about you classic Tiger Mom behavior? Just askin...

Underlying jealousy and envy raising its head yet again. Move on, Tiger cubs love their Tiger moms.

[Anonymous]

So, is writing a post and trying to make it look like your child wrote it about you classic Tiger Mom behavior? Just askin...

Thanks for the compliment. The credit is due to my Tiger mom. That's why I love her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Maybe. But they're the ones who rarely see or speak to their parents when they are adults.


No evidence for this on my front. I see more George Hugely V types (not zygotes from Tigers) who rarely speak to their parents when they are adults. Just my observations.

+1 From what I have observed, the adult children who were pushed by their parents have more respect/better relationships than those whose parents let them squander their potential. They tend to blame their parents for their failures.

I have heard this from people I know who wound up with lousy jobs and prospects - they'll say things like "why didn'y my parents push me harder?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

So, is writing a post and trying to make it look like your child wrote it about you classic Tiger Mom behavior? Just askin...

Thanks for the compliment. The credit is due to my Tiger mom. That's why I love her.

Too bad she doesn't love you, only your acheivements.

[Anonymous]

Have you ever met a Tiger Coach (mentor) of any idolized sporting franchise (Team America) in this country that did not push his players? If a Coach can push and have high expectations of his/her players why is it criminal for parents to have similar expectations for their kids? That's why many Tiger parents are laughing all the hypocrisy of American culture. They love their winning sports teams -- coaches and players but are jealous and envious of Tiger parents as they try to justify their laissez-faire philosophy in raising, guiding and nurturing their own children? Please name any one of your adored sporting clubs with Coaches (all Tiger) that didn't push their players. As a former athlete, I understand the concept of Tiger parents and why their Tiger cubs love them. As a former athlete, I loved my Tiger coach who pushed me (when I wanted to quit and get on the couch) and got the best out of me. We are still very close friends many years later. I relate to the dynamic of why Tiger cubs love their Tiger moms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
So, is writing a post and trying to make it look like your child wrote it about you classic Tiger Mom behavior? Just askin...


Thanks for the compliment. The credit is due to my Tiger mom. That's why I love her.


Too bad she doesn't love you, only your acheivements.

You bet she loves my "acheivements" (as any proud mom would) but she even loves me more. I'm sorry you are not proud of your own children's "acheivements". I understand these are personal choices reflecting your cultural traditions and norms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
So, is writing a post and trying to make it look like your child wrote it about you classic Tiger Mom behavior? Just askin...


Thanks for the compliment. The credit is due to my Tiger mom. That's why I love her.


Too bad she doesn't love you, only your acheivements.

You bet she loves my "acheivements" (as any proud mom would) but she even loves me more. I'm sorry you are not proud of your own children's "acheivements". I understand these are personal choices reflecting your cultural traditions and norms.

You've posted several times over to one post and you've done this odd switching of voices. You are no longer the Mom but now the child? I'm the PP who schlep her kids to synagogue and I was going to post that of course I would never impose my religious choices on anyone and nothing in my post indicated that I would but now I've realized that the reason you aren't reading the posts correctly is that there is something, well, odd going on here. So I'm not going to engage you anymore. I am beginning to suspect that you are (1) just a troll who doesn't even have kids, or is bored and playing a character, or (2) you have a screw loose. Either way, good-bye.

[Anonymous]

You've posted several times over to one post and you've done this odd switching of voices. You are no longer the Mom but now the child? I'm the PP who schlep her kids to synagogue and I was going to post that of course I would never impose my religious choices on anyone and nothing in my post indicated that I would but now I've realized that the reason you aren't reading the posts correctly is that there is something, well, odd going on here. So I'm not going to engage you anymore. I am beginning to suspect that you are (1) just a troll who doesn't even have kids, or is bored and playing a character, or (2) you have a screw loose. Either way, good-bye.

Good riddance, you keep on flailing wildly from post to post because you believe all children should be raised in your eyes. Not so. As a mom, you could learn a thing or two from your children's Tiger team coaches.

[Anonymous]

I have heard this from people I know who wound up with lousy jobs and prospects - they'll say things like "why didn'y my parents push me harder?"

Many superb sports coaches (at many levels school and college) understand how to push and motivate their athletes. We could learn a thing or two as parents of children from these coaches. I have a sneaking suspicion some kinds or types of parents (like our beloved coaches) get this and are able to push and motivate their young children in the right direction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I have heard this from people I know who wound up with lousy jobs and prospects - they'll say things like "why didn'y my parents push me harder?"

Many superb sports coaches (at many levels school and college) understand how to push and motivate their athletes. We could learn a thing or two as parents of children from these coaches. I have a sneaking suspicion some kinds or types of parents (like our beloved coaches) get this and are able to push and motivate their young children in the right direction.

Sock puppet much?

[Anonymous]

Ha, Ha yet another speculating fool. Wrong poster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was at an open house for a "top 3" private and the AD specifically stated that those born in June, July or August will probably not be accepted into their pre k prgm - thus forcing a red shirt...

That is summer birthdays. Huge difference between that and a kid with a Feb birthday who has been redshirted. Summer birthday redshirts are common and not worth complaining about.

[Anonymous]

Ha, Ha yet another speculating fool. Wrong poster.

I hate to agree. But I and the sock, and she is clearly the accusatory fool, but who is the puppet?