Cookies for Prisoners?

[Anonymous]

Think OP, that there are people who were wrongly convicted of their crimes and serving sentences they don't deserve. There may not be many of them but they do exist. If your cookie serves even one of such people, you would have done a good thing. Also remember, judge not, that thou may not be judged.

[Anonymous]

Jesus (who is God incarnate) was crucified beside a criminal - Jesus told that criminal that the two of them would be together in Paradise. We all sin and fall short of the glory of God. The hard message of Christianity is that God can forgive anyone. Do yourself a favor - bake the cookies in imitation of our Savior who forgives all. You will probably benefit much more than the prisoner who eats the cookies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And for all of you tsk tsking the husband, how many nice things are YOU doing for prisoners this Christmas season. Really. Really? It's all well and good of you to come down hard on him for being a hypocrite and a grinch and a bad Christian, but as someone already posted in this thread, "let he without sin cast the first stone." If we were to take a close look at YOUR life, would we find some hypocrisy, perhaps a struggle now and then to be a good person? No? Doubful.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I didn't say "all people", I said people. Nice try.

As to your latter point, my point is exactly that. The OP's DH should work at it.

There is nothing condescending about my post. And, you don't know me. I'm very happily baggage free when it comes to religion.

Ok, you didn't say "all people," but you did mean the DH in this situation and you have NO IDEA about his religious beliefs beyond the fact that he attends a Christian church of some denomination and is uncomfortable with his wife making cookies for prisoners. You have no idea what this DH "proclaims" to belive. Maybe he's an atheist supporting his wife, maybe his faith has lapsed, who knows? Just sitting your ass in a pew does not mean that you espouse all the beliefs of a given Chrisitan denomination. Attending church is a personal choice not some kind of proclamation to your society that you support everything taught in that church or follow every rule. In fact based on the OP we don't even know if the DH goes to church or is a Christian. We only know the wife goes to church with her son.

Your post was condescending and you should read it again if you think you don't have baggage surrounding those who attend church. You obviously feel that attending church is making some sort of "statement" to be interpreted by those around you and I am arguing that it is NOT in and of itself any indication of anything really. You are making big assumptions you shouldn't be making, just on the possibliity of church attendence.

You keep bringing up that I'm making sweeping generalizations about those who attend church. I am not. I am basing my opinions on the sampling of people I know.
And as for OP's DH, yes, I did judge him. And I will. Just the way YOU are judging me based on a post on an anonymous board. Or playing amateur psychologist. I am absolutely comfortable with my religious leanings. I am, however, of the opinions already stated (which is based on personal experience).

And, even if you're correct that the DH does not attend the church, he is at the very least being unkind and foolish. And, unless his hands are clean, a hypocrite.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Would you bake them for a child molester?

The bible passage is nice and all but would you send them to a child molester and say merry christmas, by the way the little girl you molested is not able to enjoy her life--????

I'm torn because I was on a jury who convicted a child molester and he's in prison hopefully for the rest of his life (found out after the trial he had many prior rape convictions). I would not want him enjoying cookies in prison. However, one of the key witnesses was a convicted drug dealer who shared a cell with him. He testified because he was a dad of a young girl and he didn't think what this guy was doing was right.

He showed real remorse and shame for his crimes, and it was clear that he wouldn't be getting much of a break for testifying. I wouldn't mind him eating some holiday cookies. Not a big fan of drug dealers but it did show me a different side of things.

I know! Why don't you go to the prison and personally decide who gets cookies and who doesn't.

I know! How about you go fuck yourself!?!? Sound good??? Way to trivialize what was a very traumatic experience. My only point was that's hard to defend a child molester based on personal experiences, yet some folks in prison don't rape kids and maybe deserve a bit more.

Maybe he didn't rape kids, but how many kids did he sell drugs to? How many kids got them from someone he sold drugs to? How many of these kids possibly over-dosed and died? Or became addicted and are now living on the streets? How many women he sold drugs to took them while they were pregnant and lost or killed babies? How many people bought drugs from him and went on to commit heinous crimes? But sure, I can see how you might want to bake the guy cookies. Give me a break.

Well then we disagree, because yes I'd want that guy to get some cookies and some minor holiday cheer. I do believe in forgiveness and redemption for certain crimes. Rape of young children is not something I can fathom, so I don't believe that man will have remorse in any meaningful way.

[Anonymous]

You know, I'm really conflicted about prisoners. My heart tells me you should bake the cookies.

When I hear about these people who commit awful crimes, I think of how they were once small children, just like my boys. So trusting, so innocent, and sweet...really just perfect humans. However, PROBABLY some shit bag parent came along and ruined them. Ruined their trust, ruined their lives, taught them to hate and hurt. Taught them they were worth nothing and taught them that life was not worth living. Took everything good about that poor child and smashed it under their dirty foot until all that was left was the ashes of that child who grew up to hurt others and hurt themselves. It think in VERY few cases is their born evil, I think evil and hate is made from a very early age.

I do not think most of these hardened criminals can be rehabbed, as I think they are dangerous and unpredictable animals, but I do think that the do need a gesture of love, maybe some how it will make a difference for them. There is nothing bad that can come out of a gesture from your heart, from a place of love and compassion. Maybe your compassion and love will be a small beacon of light in their dark and sad world.

[Anonymous]

My brother is also in prison. He was convicted of manslaughter after a man lost his life in an automobile accident. Sometimes good people make poor choices. He has no prior record, just made one bad decision. I'm not defending my brother's action, he has made his amends with the man's family and is serving his time, but I will always defend his character.

Send the cookies.

[Anonymous]

So sorry to hear about your brother in prison pp. I hope he gets through his sentence and is able to pick up the pieces of his life. I hope you and your family have been able to find peace.