Cookies for Prisoners?

Anonymous
Bake the cookies or put the tag back for someone else to choose. The whole point of a giving tree is to do something nice for another person. If you can't handle what you chose, let someone else have the chance to do that something nice.
Anonymous
And for all of you tsk tsking the husband, how many nice things are YOU doing for prisoners this Christmas season. Really. Really? It's all well and good of you to come down hard on him for being a hypocrite and a grinch and a bad Christian, but as someone already posted in this thread, "let he without sin cast the first stone." If we were to take a close look at YOUR life, would we find some hypocrisy, perhaps a struggle now and then to be a good person? No? Doubful.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:And for all of you tsk tsking the husband, how many nice things are YOU doing for prisoners this Christmas season. Really. Really? It's all well and good of you to come down hard on him for being a hypocrite and a grinch and a bad Christian, but as someone already posted in this thread, "let he without sin cast the first stone." If we were to take a close look at YOUR life, would we find some hypocrisy, perhaps a struggle now and then to be a good person? No? Doubful.


That's true. But OP put the question out there, and her DH's hypocrisy is over the top.

Signed, Someone who tries to be a good person every day.
Anonymous
Maybe it's for the children of incarcerated parents. There are a lot of them, you know.

Or juveniles.

Who knows. I think I'd be curious enough to call them...!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Would you bake them for a child molester?

The bible passage is nice and all but would you send them to a child molester and say merry christmas, by the way the little girl you molested is not able to enjoy her life--????


I'm torn because I was on a jury who convicted a child molester and he's in prison hopefully for the rest of his life (found out after the trial he had many prior rape convictions). I would not want him enjoying cookies in prison. However, one of the key witnesses was a convicted drug dealer who shared a cell with him. He testified because he was a dad of a young girl and he didn't think what this guy was doing was right.

He showed real remorse and shame for his crimes, and it was clear that he wouldn't be getting much of a break for testifying. I wouldn't mind him eating some holiday cookies. Not a big fan of drug dealers but it did show me a different side of things.



I know! Why don't you go to the prison and personally decide who gets cookies and who doesn't.



I know! How about you go fuck yourself!?!? Sound good??? Way to trivialize what was a very traumatic experience. My only point was that's hard to defend a child molester based on personal experiences, yet some folks in prison don't rape kids and maybe deserve a bit more.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm always amused when people who attend church faithfully and proclaim to follow the teachings then act in a way that is absolutely contrary to what Jesus would do. Your DH is a piece of work and should spend more time examining his soul / scripture then worrying about whether a group of prisoners trying to rehab themselves in a prayer group in prison are eating snickerdoodles.


I think the lady should bake the cookies, but this is such a condescending way to approach people who attend church. First of all not everyone who "faithfully" attends church does "proclaim" to follow the teachings all the time. Everyone, even people who faithfully go to church, fail and sin. EVERYONE. No one is able to hold the standard Jesus set, all we can do is try. Perhaps this woman's husband has been victimized by someone in the past and is taking this good deed (cookies for prisoners) personally. He is also only human. He should work on this, and maybe this dilemma can even help him develop a deeper faith. But you PP seem to misunderstand what going to church means to the people who do it; it isn't so they can crow about how good they are, or about how they always do the right thing. I think you are bringing some of your own personal baggage into this conversation yourself. Most people who attend a church would acknowledge that living a Christian life is hard and requires work and growth. I think you are basing your "amusement" on stereotypes.

I didn't say "all people", I said people. Nice try.

As to your latter point, my point is exactly that. The OP's DH should work at it.

There is nothing condescending about my post. And, you don't know me. I'm very happily baggage free when it comes to religion.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"But you PP seem to misunderstand what going to church means to the people who do it; it isn't so they can crow about how good they are, or about how they always do the right thing. "

How do you know?


Maybe some people crow about how good they are or how they always do thr right thing. But none of the frequent church goers that I know do this.


It's not so much crow about the good they've done. It is crowing about the bad that others have done. Many church goers I know do this. Not all. Many. It appears OP's DH is one of those people.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:And for all of you tsk tsking the husband, how many nice things are YOU doing for prisoners this Christmas season. Really. Really? It's all well and good of you to come down hard on him for being a hypocrite and a grinch and a bad Christian, but as someone already posted in this thread, "let he without sin cast the first stone." If we were to take a close look at YOUR life, would we find some hypocrisy, perhaps a struggle now and then to be a good person? No? Doubful.


How about: I do a ton of pro bono work for incarcerated people. Am I qualified to comment now? Or is that not enough good works for criminals to count in your abacus?

And EVERY person of whatever religious persuasion struggles every day with being a good person. I can comment about Christianity because I know it best, but we don't have a lock on God or religion, in my view. The scariest thing for me in reclaiming my Christianity as an adult was knowing that I was choosing a path in which I was guaranteed to fail. No one is perfect every day, which sucks if you have lived the rest of your life used to getting the equivalent of an A every day in most other areas. Sort of like being a parent, in a way...
Anonymous
How about: I do a ton of pro bono work for incarcerated people. Am I qualified to comment now? Or is that not enough good works for criminals to count in your abacus?

And EVERY person of whatever religious persuasion struggles every day with being a good person. I can comment about Christianity because I know it best, but we don't have a lock on God or religion, in my view. The scariest thing for me in reclaiming my Christianity as an adult was knowing that I was choosing a path in which I was guaranteed to fail. No one is perfect every day, which sucks if you have lived the rest of your life used to getting the equivalent of an A every day in most other areas. Sort of like being a parent, in a way...

My point was simply this: there are a number of people in this post seeming to take pleasure (or rather being "amused") at what they perceive to be the hypocrisy of a Christian who attends church being uncomfortable doing something for prisoners. These people are making unfair assumptions about people who go to church for one thing (that people who go to church think they are always doing the right thing and want to make others believe they are always right) and they are ignoring the fact that everyone has hypocrisy in their life, including them. Going to church does not mean a person is trying to convince others that they never do the wrong thing. We don't know anything else about the DH here. Doesn't anyone find it ironic that people are condeming the DH for being a hypocrite and un-Christian for judging the prisoners and being unwilling to reach out to them, while simultaneously taking the most unsympathetic view of the DH they possibly could? See, NONE of us are perfect. That's right, not even you.
Anonymous
I think you mean the Water Ministry at St. Columba's and for fuck's sake just bake the goddamned cookies you evil, selfish hag.

It's Christmas for fuck's sake.

Sorry. (for fuck's sake).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think you mean the Water Ministry at St. Columba's and for fuck's sake just bake the goddamned cookies you evil, selfish hag.

It's Christmas for fuck's sake.

Sorry. (for fuck's sake).


why don't you, weirdo
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:And for all of you tsk tsking the husband, how many nice things are YOU doing for prisoners this Christmas season. Really. Really? It's all well and good of you to come down hard on him for being a hypocrite and a grinch and a bad Christian, but as someone already posted in this thread, "let he without sin cast the first stone." If we were to take a close look at YOUR life, would we find some hypocrisy, perhaps a struggle now and then to be a good person? No? Doubful.


Because the point of OP's query was not "How many people are doing nice things for the incarcerated, and should I do it to?" It was to garner opinions on whether she should bake cookies for prisoners. People are entitled to express an opinion regardless of whether they are also baking cookies for prisoners. Indeed, I am not a Christian AT ALL and I have an opinion, a perfectly valid opinion, on OP's conduct and that of her husband. Moreover, there is no one whose life is absolutely devoid of hypocrisy. I believe that your religion preaches that J.C. was THE ONLY perfect person, right?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
My point was simply this: there are a number of people in this post seeming to take pleasure (or rather being "amused") at what they perceive to be the hypocrisy of a Christian who attends church being uncomfortable doing something for prisoners. These people are making unfair assumptions about people who go to church for one thing (that people who go to church think they are always doing the right thing and want to make others believe they are always right) and they are ignoring the fact that everyone has hypocrisy in their life, including them. Going to church does not mean a person is trying to convince others that they never do the wrong thing. We don't know anything else about the DH here. Doesn't anyone find it ironic that people are condeming the DH for being a hypocrite and un-Christian for judging the prisoners and being unwilling to reach out to them, while simultaneously taking the most unsympathetic view of the DH they possibly could? See, NONE of us are perfect. That's right, not even you.


Of course, no one is perfect. But when a person comes on here and ASKS for opinions about a situation like this, it's logical to me that people would point out the hypocrisy of this particular situation. And as the bible quoting poster above pointed out, this issue of how to treat prisoners is covered pretty clearly.

This doesn't make the DH in question an all around horrible person. It means that, in the opinion of some of us, he is making an error here. Which is what OP wanted to know.
Anonymous
"Most people who attend a church would acknowledge that living a Christian life is hard and requires work and growth. "

How do you know?
Anonymous
"Of course, no one is perfect. But when a person comes on here and ASKS for opinions about a situation like this, it's logical to me that people would point out the hypocrisy of this particular situation. And as the bible quoting poster above pointed out, this issue of how to treat prisoners is covered pretty clearly. "

Yup.

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