Lab grown diamonds

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Very low resale value but if you don’t care about that buy them. Nobody will be able to tell visually. You need a tester to know the difference. If you want something investment worthy look for natural untreated colored stones with GIA or AGL certifications.

Mined diamonds that are not absolutely magnificent or historically significant lose substantial value when you walk out of the jewelry store. You cannot sell them for close to insurance/replacement value.

[Anonymous]

One is real, made by a specific chance occurrence of natural processes happening just right, for millions of years, and the other is fake, created in weeks in a laboratory, perfect each and every time.

They might be chemically identical and indistinguishable - but that doesn’t mean they are the same.


Someone could make a gold band that is absolutely IDENTICAL to your own wedding band that your H gave you _______ years ago. But would you just take that one off put on the new one if a stranger gave it to you today? I’d bet you would not. Why ? It’s the same material. Same size, shape, everything. But you probably place a value on the one your H gave you, anyway, right?


Same thing with diamonds. That’s why natural stones will always be special and lab stones are just pretty fakes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One is real, made by a specific chance occurrence of natural processes happening just right, for millions of years, and the other is fake, created in weeks in a laboratory, perfect each and every time.

They might be chemically identical and indistinguishable - but that doesn’t mean they are the same.


Someone could make a gold band that is absolutely IDENTICAL to your own wedding band that your H gave you _______ years ago. But would you just take that one off put on the new one if a stranger gave it to you today? I’d bet you would not. Why ? It’s the same material. Same size, shape, everything. But you probably place a value on the one your H gave you, anyway, right?


Same thing with diamonds. That’s why natural stones will always be special and lab stones are just pretty fakes.

I think you’re describing the emotional difference between the two, and that is a factor. If the recipient of the diamond is ok with a lab created one, it’s fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One is real, made by a specific chance occurrence of natural processes happening just right, for millions of years, and the other is fake, created in weeks in a laboratory, perfect each and every time.

They might be chemically identical and indistinguishable - but that doesn’t mean they are the same.


Someone could make a gold band that is absolutely IDENTICAL to your own wedding band that your H gave you _______ years ago. But would you just take that one off put on the new one if a stranger gave it to you today? I’d bet you would not. Why ? It’s the same material. Same size, shape, everything. But you probably place a value on the one your H gave you, anyway, right?


Same thing with diamonds. That’s why natural stones will always be special and lab stones are just pretty fakes.

Once every girl on the metro can afford the indistinguishable lab stone, the mined stones will lose value. Supply. Demand. Very few people share your viewpoint, and it really is flawed, because the mined diamonds are there by the boatload already, the rarity is fake. Lab diamonds will break DeBeers false constraint and that's simply how it is. If you still want a mined diamond, that's your choice. But it's not an investment that is going to appreciate or even hold its value.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Very low resale value but if you don’t care about that buy them. Nobody will be able to tell visually. You need a tester to know the difference. If you want something investment worthy look for natural untreated colored stones with GIA or AGL certifications.

Mined diamonds that are not absolutely magnificent or historically significant lose substantial value when you walk out of the jewelry store. You cannot sell them for close to insurance/replacement value.

I literally own a jewelry company. When you try to sell the preowned lab diamonds nobody wants them. If you’re buying diamonds from a retail jewelry store like a kay or Jarred’s you will get ripped off and their business model is really to get you to finance it and that’s how they make their money. With the rise of jewelry sales online and more education you can get a good deal online and if you’re willing to buy antique or preowned. A even better deal can be had if you buy from an estate auction. Margins have become thin on natural diamonds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Very low resale value but if you don’t care about that buy them. Nobody will be able to tell visually. You need a tester to know the difference. If you want something investment worthy look for natural untreated colored stones with GIA or AGL certifications.

I think people are confused about lab diamonds. A tester won’t detect any difference between lab or mined diamonds. Chemically, they are exactly the same. It’s not like lab diamonds are CZ, which a tester would obviously be able to detect. Are people being purposefully obtuse about this or do they really not understand? Or are they just mad that diamonds are no longer artificially inflated in price?

You’re correct that lab and natural domains are the exact same chemically but so are lab grown sapphire/rubies/emeralds to their natural counterparts but one trades for a fraction of the other and resale on preowned stones like this is very poor. The sapphire glass used in drone cameras is the exact same chemically as a sapphire gem stone but obviously they are valued differently. When they test for lab diamond what they’re actually testing is if it is a type 2a diamond which is very rare in natural diamonds and means there are no nitrogen impurities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The creation of lab diamonds has totally turned me off diamonds altogether.

+1. It's costume jewelry now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The lab ones are still too expensive for me to get the big stud earrings I fantasized about.

There are good deals on many of the online sites. I like Ritani.

A local jeweler educated me about lab diamonds and convinced me to drop mined diamonds. I also wanted large stud earrings. He was a great guy but his prices were ridiculous. He price was around 20k for lab 3ct studs. I found high quality labs online for 2k-3.5k. The jewelry stores have ridiculous prices for labs.

And that's the problem with lab grown. There is no consensus on their value. That is why consumers will return to natural diamonds for luxury and milestone gifts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lower resale value no way

Huh? The moment you walk out of the jeweler with your blood diamond it drops in value by half

Sure it does Jan

Unless there is some famous name attached to it - brand, artist - you’ll be lucky to get 25% of what your spent upon resale.

[Anonymous]

Conflict diamonds will always have a premium because of the trauma inflicted on humans in their extraction.

Pain sells.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One is real, made by a specific chance occurrence of natural processes happening just right, for millions of years, and the other is fake, created in weeks in a laboratory, perfect each and every time.

They might be chemically identical and indistinguishable - but that doesn’t mean they are the same.


Someone could make a gold band that is absolutely IDENTICAL to your own wedding band that your H gave you _______ years ago. But would you just take that one off put on the new one if a stranger gave it to you today? I’d bet you would not. Why ? It’s the same material. Same size, shape, everything. But you probably place a value on the one your H gave you, anyway, right?


Same thing with diamonds. That’s why natural stones will always be special and lab stones are just pretty fakes.

Once every girl on the metro can afford the indistinguishable lab stone, the mined stones will lose value. Supply. Demand. Very few people share your viewpoint, and it really is flawed, because the mined diamonds are there by the boatload already, the rarity is fake. Lab diamonds will break DeBeers false constraint and that's simply how it is. If you still want a mined diamond, that's your choice. But it's not an investment that is going to appreciate or even hold its value.

Gen Y and Gen Z have to cheapen everything I guess. Music. Films. Art. And now diamonds.

Nothing is special. Just another fast-foodization of life, delivered by Uber Eats.

[Anonymous]

I know two millennial young women that are using the natural diamonds inherited from their fiance's grandmothers in their engagement rings. I also received my diamond from my husband's grandmother and would gladly pass mine along to a young relative who is interested. Reset, cleaned and polished to shine for another three or four decades!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know two millennial young women that are using the natural diamonds inherited from their fiance's grandmothers in their engagement rings. I also received my diamond from my husband's grandmother and would gladly pass mine along to a young relative who is interested. Reset, cleaned and polished to shine for another three or four decades!

Family heirlooms are always special and you can’t put a price on that. I don’t think anyone is suggesting people toss the diamonds that they have, we’re just saying be aware that the supply of lab diamonds will impact the price and status of mined diamonds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know two millennial young women that are using the natural diamonds inherited from their fiance's grandmothers in their engagement rings. I also received my diamond from my husband's grandmother and would gladly pass mine along to a young relative who is interested. Reset, cleaned and polished to shine for another three or four decades!

I’d rather have a lab diamond than a hand me down from my fiancés Grandma.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not into lab diamonds.

For something of beauty, whether it's a person or thing, I like the whole concept of the earth making something, not technology.

Vaccines and medications are a whole separate topics and I feel the opposite on those of course.

I like that too, but not enough to buy something that is so ethically problematic.

So, lab diamonds for me.