Lab grown diamonds

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lab or fake diamonds are marked and it's easy to tell because they have no imperfections so it's fake

So they’re too perfect? Make it make sense

Correct. Too perfect is a flaw in and of itself.

Diamonds are a *natural* phenomenon. Just because you can create a perfect carbon crystal in a laboratory doesn’t mean it’s a diamond.

A diamond was created by natural processes. Lab created carbon crystals were not. Just because they are chemically indistinguishable doesn’t matter, if the process they were created was different.

[Anonymous]

I'm a purist with many diamonds. I would never buy a "fake" diamond.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lab or fake diamonds are marked and it's easy to tell because they have no imperfections so it's fake

So they’re too perfect? Make it make sense

Correct. Too perfect is a flaw in and of itself.

Diamonds are a *natural* phenomenon. Just because you can create a perfect carbon crystal in a laboratory doesn’t mean it’s a diamond.

A diamond was created by natural processes. Lab created carbon crystals were not. Just because they are chemically indistinguishable doesn’t matter, if the process they were created was different.

Not buying it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Very low resale value but if you don’t care about that buy them. Nobody will be able to tell visually. You need a tester to know the difference. If you want something investment worthy look for natural untreated colored stones with GIA or AGL certifications.

Diamonds are not an investment. They do not appreciate and you will not get back anything near what you paid a jeweler.

All jewelry has a very low resale value. Only someone bad with money would buy gems/jewelry as an investment.

Natural rare colored diamonds and quality untreated colored stones went up in value. A natural pearl necklace my mother purchased in 1990 for $2500 I just sold for $12000 at auction. Even if you paid double retail on gold if you held it long enough you’ve made money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Very low resale value but if you don’t care about that buy them. Nobody will be able to tell visually. You need a tester to know the difference. If you want something investment worthy look for natural untreated colored stones with GIA or AGL certifications.

Diamonds are not an investment. They do not appreciate and you will not get back anything near what you paid a jeweler.

All jewelry has a very low resale value. Only someone bad with money would buy gems/jewelry as an investment.

Natural rare colored diamonds and quality untreated colored stones went up in value. A natural pearl necklace my mother purchased in 1990 for $2500 I just sold for $12000 at auction. Even if you paid double retail on gold if you held it long enough you’ve made money.

Are their lab created natural pearls? No. Natural matched pearls are actually rare, as are untreated color stones. Gold is currently at a high value, but most people don’t have large gold pieces, it’s just the setting. Most jewelry does not appreciate life that. It’s been mentioned multiple times that exceptional diamonds are different. We aren’t comparing lab diamonds to enormous stones, or stones that belonged to historically significant people. We are talking about typical UMC and UMC+ jewelry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lab or fake diamonds are marked and it's easy to tell because they have no imperfections so it's fake

So they’re too perfect? Make it make sense

Correct. Too perfect is a flaw in and of itself.

Diamonds are a *natural* phenomenon. Just because you can create a perfect carbon crystal in a laboratory doesn’t mean it’s a diamond.

A diamond was created by natural processes. Lab created carbon crystals were not. Just because they are chemically indistinguishable doesn’t matter, if the process they were created was different.

Not buying it

No one is asking you to “buy” it.

It a statement of facts:

A diamond is a naturally occurring gem stone.

A lab created carbon crystal is chemically identical to a diamond.

A diamond cannot be created in a lab specially because *the word diamond* itself means a gem that was formed by nature.

A lab created carbon crystal cannot be formed in nature because the conditions required to form them rapidly do not occur naturally.



They are two different things, despite being chemically identical.






Now - what did I say that wasn’t true?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lab or fake diamonds are marked and it's easy to tell because they have no imperfections so it's fake

So they’re too perfect? Make it make sense

Correct. Too perfect is a flaw in and of itself.

Diamonds are a *natural* phenomenon. Just because you can create a perfect carbon crystal in a laboratory doesn’t mean it’s a diamond.

A diamond was created by natural processes. Lab created carbon crystals were not. Just because they are chemically indistinguishable doesn’t matter, if the process they were created was different.

Lab diamonds are not perfect.

And they are the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know two millennial young women that are using the natural diamonds inherited from their fiance's grandmothers in their engagement rings. I also received my diamond from my husband's grandmother and would gladly pass mine along to a young relative who is interested. Reset, cleaned and polished to shine for another three or four decades!

Family heirlooms are always special and you can’t put a price on that. I don’t think anyone is suggesting people toss the diamonds that they have, we’re just saying be aware that the supply of lab diamonds will impact the price and status of mined diamonds.

My point was that you can have a vintage diamond (mined) and have it reset and cleaned/polished rather than a lab-grown. You can inherit or purchase that gem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like Blade Runner where real animals remained more valuable than synthetic copies, real mined diamonds are typically worth more than lab created diamonds because they are naturally formed, finite, and harder to replace. Even if they look similar, the market often places a premium on rarity, authenticity, and natural origin. Lab diamonds can offer great visual value, but real mined diamonds usually carry stronger prestige and long term perceived worth.

Looks like DeBeers got desperate enough to send a shill.

DP. Many people feel this way but the younger generation may change that perception. Time will tell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone gone this route? In light of the ethical issues related to the diamond trade?

Were you happy?

Yes. Gone this route. Very happy with the purchase. A lovely flawless diamond, good size, brilliant, very affordable, no ethical issues and very happy with the product and the $$$ saved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lab or fake diamonds are marked and it's easy to tell because they have no imperfections so it's fake

So they’re too perfect? Make it make sense

Correct. Too perfect is a flaw in and of itself.

Diamonds are a *natural* phenomenon. Just because you can create a perfect carbon crystal in a laboratory doesn’t mean it’s a diamond.

A diamond was created by natural processes. Lab created carbon crystals were not. Just because they are chemically indistinguishable doesn’t matter, if the process they were created was different.

Not buying it

No one is asking you to “buy” it.

It a statement of facts:

A diamond is a naturally occurring gem stone.

A lab created carbon crystal is chemically identical to a diamond.

A diamond cannot be created in a lab specially because *the word diamond* itself means a gem that was formed by nature.

A lab created carbon crystal cannot be formed in nature because the conditions required to form them rapidly do not occur naturally.



They are two different things, despite being chemically identical.






Now - what did I say that wasn’t true?

Sorry this is totally contradictory ("They are two different things, despite being chemically identical."), but enjoy your blood diamonds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Very low resale value but if you don’t care about that buy them. Nobody will be able to tell visually. You need a tester to know the difference. If you want something investment worthy look for natural untreated colored stones with GIA or AGL certifications.

Diamonds are not an investment. They do not appreciate and you will not get back anything near what you paid a jeweler.

All jewelry has a very low resale value. Only someone bad with money would buy gems/jewelry as an investment.

Natural rare colored diamonds and quality untreated colored stones went up in value. A natural pearl necklace my mother purchased in 1990 for $2500 I just sold for $12000 at auction. Even if you paid double retail on gold if you held it long enough you’ve made money.

Are their lab created natural pearls? No. Natural matched pearls are actually rare, as are untreated color stones. Gold is currently at a high value, but most people don’t have large gold pieces, it’s just the setting. Most jewelry does not appreciate life that. It’s been mentioned multiple times that exceptional diamonds are different. We aren’t comparing lab diamonds to enormous stones, or stones that belonged to historically significant people. We are talking about typical UMC and UMC+ jewelry.

I have large gold pieces. Vintage, heirloom, given to me when I got married, some bought when gold prices were low. Part of my culture. I also have silver.

Maybe, one day, they can create gold and silver in the lab too. What will that mean for my collection? Nothing. These are heirloom pieces that have been passed on to me by my female ancestors. For me they remain priceless.

[Anonymous]

Nobody cares or knows where your diamond came from and only your weird friends and your mother care about your ring at all anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know two millennial young women that are using the natural diamonds inherited from their fiance's grandmothers in their engagement rings. I also received my diamond from my husband's grandmother and would gladly pass mine along to a young relative who is interested. Reset, cleaned and polished to shine for another three or four decades!

Family heirlooms are always special and you can’t put a price on that. I don’t think anyone is suggesting people toss the diamonds that they have, we’re just saying be aware that the supply of lab diamonds will impact the price and status of mined diamonds.

My point was that you can have a vintage diamond (mined) and have it reset and cleaned/polished rather than a lab-grown. You can inherit or purchase that gem.

I don't think we have a disagreement. I cherish my family pieces and while I have no need of more, I enjoy browsing vintage and antique jewelry. That doesn't change the facts about lab diamonds and mined diamonds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Very low resale value but if you don’t care about that buy them. Nobody will be able to tell visually. You need a tester to know the difference. If you want something investment worthy look for natural untreated colored stones with GIA or AGL certifications.

Diamonds are not an investment. They do not appreciate and you will not get back anything near what you paid a jeweler.

All jewelry has a very low resale value. Only someone bad with money would buy gems/jewelry as an investment.

Natural rare colored diamonds and quality untreated colored stones went up in value. A natural pearl necklace my mother purchased in 1990 for $2500 I just sold for $12000 at auction. Even if you paid double retail on gold if you held it long enough you’ve made money.

Are their lab created natural pearls? No. Natural matched pearls are actually rare, as are untreated color stones. Gold is currently at a high value, but most people don’t have large gold pieces, it’s just the setting. Most jewelry does not appreciate life that. It’s been mentioned multiple times that exceptional diamonds are different. We aren’t comparing lab diamonds to enormous stones, or stones that belonged to historically significant people. We are talking about typical UMC and UMC+ jewelry.

I have large gold pieces. Vintage, heirloom, given to me when I got married, some bought when gold prices were low. Part of my culture. I also have silver.

Maybe, one day, they can create gold and silver in the lab too. What will that mean for my collection? Nothing. These are heirloom pieces that have been passed on to me by my female ancestors. For me they remain priceless.

To you, they are priceless. To those who purchase jewelry, there is a market value in dollars.