Tenleytown Library homeless issue

[Anonymous]

OP, I'm sorry you had to deal with that.

The drug-addled, unbathed, out door-livers are a disgusting plague on cities. Left-wing/progressive policies coddle and enable the existence of these people. They buy them tents, hand out supplies, block attempts to get them the hell out of here.

If it were me, I would end homelessness overnight. I would just make them all leave DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Instead of disparaging these unfortunate people, you could’ve helped them.

I’m sure you have a guest bathroom and can afford basic grooming supplies if you live in upper NW? How about offering them the use of your bathroom and laundry to clean themselves up? Do you think they enjoy not bathing?

As a mother, you should really be ashamed of the example you’re setting for your children. Instead of teaching them compassion for the less fortunate, you’re teaching them to fear them. That’s seriously vile and gross.

You really are a bad person.

Ha ha - I'm sure that you've already got homeless people using YOUR guest bathroom?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why there can’t be day homeless shelters. Set up a facility so homeless can go to the bathroom and hang out in instead of using libraries and public transportation.

People need to have more sympathy for the poor/working class who use public transportation and want to use libraries. They should have a right to use these public places without vagrants interfering with their quiet enjoyment

As someone who's worked with the unhoused for years, I can tell you many don't want shelter. There are almost always significant mental health challenges that contribute.

Police used to arrest them for minor offenses, when others find them to be inconvenient and call 911, like the smell and blocking people when walking into to a public facility (merely being there isn't trespass but blocking public right of way is). But that is a bad "solution" for a lot of reasons. Not the least of which is they are back on the street in a matter of hours. So what was the point other than to give them a criminal record?

It's a mental health issue butting up against multiple constitutional issues. And there truly isn't an easy answer.

The constitutional issues have been resolved. This is now a political issue. Vote wisely.

This. Ronald Reagan made it so these lunatics were let out of asylums. Go back to where it was before that. It is not more humane to let people sleep in the cold or in libraries while high and drenched in their own urine than to keep them in a warm, secure environment where they can get the therapy and medication they need.

Unfortunately it became “woke” to have no problem with people getting high, sleeping in public places, and wallowing in their own urine and feces. It’s almost like Putin or some other foreign power psyoped people into thinking this to damage our country.

The demise of public institutions came from people like the ACLU...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, if you consider yourself to be a Christian or a member of any faith community, now would be a good time to stop.

Here’s a good litmus test of morality for anyone, regardless of faith. Imagine that you are saying the words you are about to say in front of Pope Leo. Do you still need to say them? Do you need to say them a different way? If you said them, what do you think he’d say back to you?

And I say this as not a Catholic.

This whole attempt to apply Christian morality by people who are not Christians and don’t know the first thing about Christian ethics is truly bizarre…

Do you really believe that Christian ethics require people to accept and facilitate behavior that is both self-destructive and harmful to society?

Christian charity has always been conditional. That’s why secularists hate it and prefer entitlements, where people can spiral out of control in private with “dignity.”

Amen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why there can’t be day homeless shelters. Set up a facility so homeless can go to the bathroom and hang out in instead of using libraries and public transportation.

People need to have more sympathy for the poor/working class who use public transportation and want to use libraries. They should have a right to use these public places without vagrants interfering with their quiet enjoyment

As someone who's worked with the unhoused for years, I can tell you many don't want shelter. There are almost always significant mental health challenges that contribute.

Police used to arrest them for minor offenses, when others find them to be inconvenient and call 911, like the smell and blocking people when walking into to a public facility (merely being there isn't trespass but blocking public right of way is). But that is a bad "solution" for a lot of reasons. Not the least of which is they are back on the street in a matter of hours. So what was the point other than to give them a criminal record?

It's a mental health issue butting up against multiple constitutional issues. And there truly isn't an easy answer.

Of course there is. You just don't want to hear it.

People do not have the right to disrupt others in public places. They do not have the right to trespass or camp out in public spaces.

We need mandatory day shelters and night shelters. If you have no where else to spend the day, off you go.

Libraries should not serve as that function.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why there can’t be day homeless shelters. Set up a facility so homeless can go to the bathroom and hang out in instead of using libraries and public transportation.

People need to have more sympathy for the poor/working class who use public transportation and want to use libraries. They should have a right to use these public places without vagrants interfering with their quiet enjoyment

As someone who's worked with the unhoused for years, I can tell you many don't want shelter. There are almost always significant mental health challenges that contribute.

Police used to arrest them for minor offenses, when others find them to be inconvenient and call 911, like the smell and blocking people when walking into to a public facility (merely being there isn't trespass but blocking public right of way is). But that is a bad "solution" for a lot of reasons. Not the least of which is they are back on the street in a matter of hours. So what was the point other than to give them a criminal record?

It's a mental health issue butting up against multiple constitutional issues. And there truly isn't an easy answer.

The constitutional issues have been resolved. This is now a political issue. Vote wisely.

This. Ronald Reagan made it so these lunatics were let out of asylums. Go back to where it was before that. It is not more humane to let people sleep in the cold or in libraries while high and drenched in their own urine than to keep them in a warm, secure environment where they can get the therapy and medication they need.

Unfortunately it became “woke” to have no problem with people getting high, sleeping in public places, and wallowing in their own urine and feces. It’s almost like Putin or some other foreign power psyoped people into thinking this to damage our country.

The demise of public institutions came from people like the ACLU...

This particular case was an alignment of Reagan and the ACLU.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of disparaging these unfortunate people, you could’ve helped them.

I’m sure you have a guest bathroom and can afford basic grooming supplies if you live in upper NW? How about offering them the use of your bathroom and laundry to clean themselves up? Do you think they enjoy not bathing?

As a mother, you should really be ashamed of the example you’re setting for your children. Instead of teaching them compassion for the less fortunate, you’re teaching them to fear them. That’s seriously vile and gross.

You really are a bad person.

Ha ha - I'm sure that you've already got homeless people using YOUR guest bathroom?

+1 And invited them inside for warmth and a Thanksgiving meal after providing a shower and clean clothing.

[Anonymous]

The only gross people in this scenario is OP and her spawn. I am sick and tired of privileged people being so completely tone deaf. OP would rather these people freeze to death than find the only shelter they have in the city. They have nowhere else to go so save me your "offensive smell" and "gag" nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, if you consider yourself to be a Christian or a member of any faith community, now would be a good time to stop.

Here’s a good litmus test of morality for anyone, regardless of faith. Imagine that you are saying the words you are about to say in front of Pope Leo. Do you still need to say them? Do you need to say them a different way? If you said them, what do you think he’d say back to you?

And I say this as not a Catholic.

OP here -

Thankfully I no longer consider myself a Christian because I have been able to break away from years of indoctrination and recognize hypocrisy when I see it. The treatment of people in religious communities (particularly the Catholic one I grew up in) is awful. I don’t think I need to explain much more about that.

Maybe Opus Dei who owns many properties in Tenleytown would be interested in welcoming these individuals to come stay with them.

I actually do pride myself on staying in the city with a family, showing them different cultures, and putting them around people of different faiths, colors, backgrounds, and needs. But no, I do not think I should have to expose them to the things they experienced this week in order to use a public space.

No other library I am aware of has such a prime vestibule for this sort of activity.

Public spaces are for...the public, OP.

If you don't like the FACT that there are many people without homes among the public; many people without access to showers among the public; many people facing unemployment among the public; or people facing among the public, then vote, get involved, donate, or DO SOMETHING about it.

Too bad for you that "the public" means everyone, not just those who you deem to be worthy of dignity.

That's all.

What utter BS and drivel. No, we don't have to put up with the homeless urinating and defecating in public spaces and on public transportation. They can seek help from their families, churches, synagogues, and provate sources. If they choose to not take advantage of available resources or lack the cognitive ability or mental stability to do so, then our govt services need to house them with supervision.

Churches and synagogues are sooooooo welcoming these days. PLEASEEEEEE. You're a shit person and I hope you end up homeless one day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, if you consider yourself to be a Christian or a member of any faith community, now would be a good time to stop.

Here’s a good litmus test of morality for anyone, regardless of faith. Imagine that you are saying the words you are about to say in front of Pope Leo. Do you still need to say them? Do you need to say them a different way? If you said them, what do you think he’d say back to you?

And I say this as not a Catholic.

This whole attempt to apply Christian morality by people who are not Christians and don’t know the first thing about Christian ethics is truly bizarre…

Do you really believe that Christian ethics require people to accept and facilitate behavior that is both self-destructive and harmful to society?

Christian charity has always been conditional. That’s why secularists hate it and prefer entitlements, where people can spiral out of control in private with “dignity.”

Amen.

Is there anyone more infuriating than a smug atheist who has nothing but contempt for Christianity being like "Well ackshualy if you were a REAL Christian you'd do (suicidal thing that no one in their right mind would ever do)"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The only gross people in this scenario is OP and her spawn. I am sick and tired of privileged people being so completely tone deaf. OP would rather these people freeze to death than find the only shelter they have in the city. They have nowhere else to go so save me your "offensive smell" and "gag" nonsense.

They have places to go. However, those places have more rules. The library is a free for all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, if you consider yourself to be a Christian or a member of any faith community, now would be a good time to stop.

Here’s a good litmus test of morality for anyone, regardless of faith. Imagine that you are saying the words you are about to say in front of Pope Leo. Do you still need to say them? Do you need to say them a different way? If you said them, what do you think he’d say back to you?

And I say this as not a Catholic.

This whole attempt to apply Christian morality by people who are not Christians and don’t know the first thing about Christian ethics is truly bizarre…

Do you really believe that Christian ethics require people to accept and facilitate behavior that is both self-destructive and harmful to society?

Christian charity has always been conditional. That’s why secularists hate it and prefer entitlements, where people can spiral out of control in private with “dignity.”

Amen.

Is there anyone more infuriating than a smug atheist who has nothing but contempt for Christianity being like "Well ackshualy if you were a REAL Christian you'd do (suicidal thing that no one in their right mind would ever do)"

"Donate all of your wealth to charity and live on the street?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only gross people in this scenario is OP and her spawn. I am sick and tired of privileged people being so completely tone deaf. OP would rather these people freeze to death than find the only shelter they have in the city. They have nowhere else to go so save me your "offensive smell" and "gag" nonsense.

They have places to go. However, those places have more rules. The library is a free for all.

Including the homeless. They belong there just as much as OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pro-tip: some libraries are less accessible by public transportation than others. We choose based on that. Some of our favorites (in MoCo but close to DC) do have Ride-On bus service but it only goes by 2x an hour.

As a person who uses public transportation to get to libraries, this is gross to read.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, if you consider yourself to be a Christian or a member of any faith community, now would be a good time to stop.

Here’s a good litmus test of morality for anyone, regardless of faith. Imagine that you are saying the words you are about to say in front of Pope Leo. Do you still need to say them? Do you need to say them a different way? If you said them, what do you think he’d say back to you?

And I say this as not a Catholic.

OP here -

Thankfully I no longer consider myself a Christian because I have been able to break away from years of indoctrination and recognize hypocrisy when I see it. The treatment of people in religious communities (particularly the Catholic one I grew up in) is awful. I don’t think I need to explain much more about that.

Maybe Opus Dei who owns many properties in Tenleytown would be interested in welcoming these individuals to come stay with them.

I actually do pride myself on staying in the city with a family, showing them different cultures, and putting them around people of different faiths, colors, backgrounds, and needs. But no, I do not think I should have to expose them to the things they experienced this week in order to use a public space.

No other library I am aware of has such a prime vestibule for this sort of activity.

Public spaces are for...the public, OP.

If you don't like the FACT that there are many people without homes among the public; many people without access to showers among the public; many people facing unemployment among the public; or people facing among the public, then vote, get involved, donate, or DO SOMETHING about it.

Too bad for you that "the public" means everyone, not just those who you deem to be worthy of dignity.

That's all.

What utter BS and drivel. No, we don't have to put up with the homeless urinating and defecating in public spaces and on public transportation. They can seek help from their families, churches, synagogues, and provate sources. If they choose to not take advantage of available resources or lack the cognitive ability or mental stability to do so, then our govt services need to house them with supervision.

You should start a petition advocating for higher taxes so that the gov can take care if them.