Tenleytown Library homeless issue

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why there can’t be day homeless shelters. Set up a facility so homeless can go to the bathroom and hang out in instead of using libraries and public transportation.

People need to have more sympathy for the poor/working class who use public transportation and want to use libraries. They should have a right to use these public places without vagrants interfering with their quiet enjoyment


As someone who's worked with the unhoused for years, I can tell you many don't want shelter. There are almost always significant mental health challenges that contribute.

Police used to arrest them for minor offenses, when others find them to be inconvenient and call 911, like the smell and blocking people when walking into to a public facility (merely being there isn't trespass but blocking public right of way is). But that is a bad "solution" for a lot of reasons. Not the least of which is they are back on the street in a matter of hours. So what was the point other than to give them a criminal record?

It's a mental health issue butting up against multiple constitutional issues. And there truly isn't an easy answer.



The constitutional issues have been resolved. This is now a political issue. Vote wisely.


This. Ronald Reagan made it so these lunatics were let out of asylums. Go back to where it was before that. It is not more humane to let people sleep in the cold or in libraries while high and drenched in their own urine than to keep them in a warm, secure environment where they can get the therapy and medication they need.

Unfortunately it became “woke” to have no problem with people getting high, sleeping in public places, and wallowing in their own urine and feces. It’s almost like Putin or some other foreign power psyoped people into thinking this to damage our country.


You have to also understand that there is an entire NGO industrial complex whose livelihoods depend on prolonging the problem. They in large part finance the campaigns of Democrats, including just about every current member of the Council.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why there can’t be day homeless shelters. Set up a facility so homeless can go to the bathroom and hang out in instead of using libraries and public transportation.

People need to have more sympathy for the poor/working class who use public transportation and want to use libraries. They should have a right to use these public places without vagrants interfering with their quiet enjoyment


As someone who's worked with the unhoused for years, I can tell you many don't want shelter. There are almost always significant mental health challenges that contribute.

Police used to arrest them for minor offenses, when others find them to be inconvenient and call 911, like the smell and blocking people when walking into to a public facility (merely being there isn't trespass but blocking public right of way is). But that is a bad "solution" for a lot of reasons. Not the least of which is they are back on the street in a matter of hours. So what was the point other than to give them a criminal record?

It's a mental health issue butting up against multiple constitutional issues. And there truly isn't an easy answer.



The constitutional issues have been resolved. This is now a political issue. Vote wisely.


This. Ronald Reagan made it so these lunatics were let out of asylums. Go back to where it was before that. It is not more humane to let people sleep in the cold or in libraries while high and drenched in their own urine than to keep them in a warm, secure environment where they can get the therapy and medication they need.

Unfortunately it became “woke” to have no problem with people getting high, sleeping in public places, and wallowing in their own urine and feces. It’s almost like Putin or some other foreign power psyoped people into thinking this to damage our country.


You have to also understand that there is an entire NGO industrial complex whose livelihoods depend on prolonging the problem. They in large part finance the campaigns of Democrats, including just about every current member of the Council.


Curse that Putin and his ability to mindhack an entire industrial complex into enabling self-destructive behavior and getting the majority of the Democratic party to turn a blind eye to the suffering so long as they aren't personally impacted!
Anonymous
OP, if you consider yourself to be a Christian or a member of any faith community, now would be a good time to stop.

Here’s a good litmus test of morality for anyone, regardless of faith. Imagine that you are saying the words you are about to say in front of Pope Leo. Do you still need to say them? Do you need to say them a different way? If you said them, what do you think he’d say back to you?

And I say this as not a Catholic.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP, if you consider yourself to be a Christian or a member of any faith community, now would be a good time to stop.

Here’s a good litmus test of morality for anyone, regardless of faith. Imagine that you are saying the words you are about to say in front of Pope Leo. Do you still need to say them? Do you need to say them a different way? If you said them, what do you think he’d say back to you?

And I say this as not a Catholic.


This whole attempt to apply Christian morality by people who are not Christians and don’t know the first thing about Christian ethics is truly bizarre…

Do you really believe that Christian ethics require people to accept and facilitate behavior that is both self-destructive and harmful to society?

Christian charity has always been conditional. That’s why secularists hate it and prefer entitlements, where people can spiral out of control in private with “dignity.”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP, if you consider yourself to be a Christian or a member of any faith community, now would be a good time to stop.

Here’s a good litmus test of morality for anyone, regardless of faith. Imagine that you are saying the words you are about to say in front of Pope Leo. Do you still need to say them? Do you need to say them a different way? If you said them, what do you think he’d say back to you?

And I say this as not a Catholic.


We should take everything from those claiming to be Christians and redistribute to the needy. If they won't follow their faith, we can do it for them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why there can’t be day homeless shelters. Set up a facility so homeless can go to the bathroom and hang out in instead of using libraries and public transportation.

People need to have more sympathy for the poor/working class who use public transportation and want to use libraries. They should have a right to use these public places without vagrants interfering with their quiet enjoyment


As someone who's worked with the unhoused for years, I can tell you many don't want shelter. There are almost always significant mental health challenges that contribute.

Police used to arrest them for minor offenses, when others find them to be inconvenient and call 911, like the smell and blocking people when walking into to a public facility (merely being there isn't trespass but blocking public right of way is). But that is a bad "solution" for a lot of reasons. Not the least of which is they are back on the street in a matter of hours. So what was the point other than to give them a criminal record?

It's a mental health issue butting up against multiple constitutional issues. And there truly isn't an easy answer.



The constitutional issues have been resolved. This is now a political issue. Vote wisely.


This. Ronald Reagan made it so these lunatics were let out of asylums. Go back to where it was before that. It is not more humane to let people sleep in the cold or in libraries while high and drenched in their own urine than to keep them in a warm, secure environment where they can get the therapy and medication they need.

Unfortunately it became “woke” to have no problem with people getting high, sleeping in public places, and wallowing in their own urine and feces. It’s almost like Putin or some other foreign power psyoped people into thinking this to damage our country.


You have to also understand that there is an entire NGO industrial complex whose livelihoods depend on prolonging the problem. They in large part finance the campaigns of Democrats, including just about every current member of the Council.


Curse that Putin and his ability to mindhack an entire industrial complex into enabling self-destructive behavior and getting the majority of the Democratic party to turn a blind eye to the suffering so long as they aren't personally impacted!


California spent $24 billion over five years. No measurable outcomes or oversight. It's a grift to give money to nonprofits to handle this task.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/united-states-attorney-bill-essayli-announces-criminal-task-force-investigate-fraud
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, if you consider yourself to be a Christian or a member of any faith community, now would be a good time to stop.

Here’s a good litmus test of morality for anyone, regardless of faith. Imagine that you are saying the words you are about to say in front of Pope Leo. Do you still need to say them? Do you need to say them a different way? If you said them, what do you think he’d say back to you?

And I say this as not a Catholic.


We should take everything from those claiming to be Christians and redistribute to the needy. If they won't follow their faith, we can do it for them.


Are you a college freshman home for Christmas break who just discovered atheism or something? Shouldn't you be on Tik Tok?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP, if you consider yourself to be a Christian or a member of any faith community, now would be a good time to stop.

Here’s a good litmus test of morality for anyone, regardless of faith. Imagine that you are saying the words you are about to say in front of Pope Leo. Do you still need to say them? Do you need to say them a different way? If you said them, what do you think he’d say back to you?

And I say this as not a Catholic.


OP here -

Thankfully I no longer consider myself a Christian because I have been able to break away from years of indoctrination and recognize hypocrisy when I see it. The treatment of people in religious communities (particularly the Catholic one I grew up in) is awful. I don’t think I need to explain much more about that.

Maybe Opus Dei who owns many properties in Tenleytown would be interested in welcoming these individuals to come stay with them.

I actually do pride myself on staying in the city with a family, showing them different cultures, and putting them around people of different faiths, colors, backgrounds, and needs. But no, I do not think I should have to expose them to the things they experienced this week in order to use a public space.

No other library I am aware of has such a prime vestibule for this sort of activity.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised to learn that homeless people have finally entered NW DC. The rest of us have been dealing with this issue for decades.


+1 Too many health professionals think they should be allowed to live freely and make their own lifestyle choices, despite the fact that many of them are mentally ill with drug and alcohol issues and can become violent..
Anonymous
libarieis in liberal cities are no longer a public service but a place for homeless people to defeicate get high and drunk
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP, if you consider yourself to be a Christian or a member of any faith community, now would be a good time to stop.

Here’s a good litmus test of morality for anyone, regardless of faith. Imagine that you are saying the words you are about to say in front of Pope Leo. Do you still need to say them? Do you need to say them a different way? If you said them, what do you think he’d say back to you?

And I say this as not a Catholic.


Nick Reiner had all kinds of help....help does not mean allowing potentially dangerous individuals to camp out in public places. They need longterm hospitalization.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Instead of disparaging these unfortunate people, you could’ve helped them.

I’m sure you have a guest bathroom and can afford basic grooming supplies if you live in upper NW? How about offering them the use of your bathroom and laundry to clean themselves up? Do you think they enjoy not bathing?

As a mother, you should really be ashamed of the example you’re setting for your children. Instead of teaching them compassion for the less fortunate, you’re teaching them to fear them. That’s seriously vile and gross.

You really are a bad person.


You're an idiot.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:libarieis in liberal cities are no longer a public service but a place for homeless people to defeicate get high and drunk


They've also become a good place for children to...play video games?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, if you consider yourself to be a Christian or a member of any faith community, now would be a good time to stop.

Here’s a good litmus test of morality for anyone, regardless of faith. Imagine that you are saying the words you are about to say in front of Pope Leo. Do you still need to say them? Do you need to say them a different way? If you said them, what do you think he’d say back to you?

And I say this as not a Catholic.


OP here -

Thankfully I no longer consider myself a Christian because I have been able to break away from years of indoctrination and recognize hypocrisy when I see it. The treatment of people in religious communities (particularly the Catholic one I grew up in) is awful. I don’t think I need to explain much more about that.

Maybe Opus Dei who owns many properties in Tenleytown would be interested in welcoming these individuals to come stay with them.

I actually do pride myself on staying in the city with a family, showing them different cultures, and putting them around people of different faiths, colors, backgrounds, and needs. But no, I do not think I should have to expose them to the things they experienced this week in order to use a public space.

No other library I am aware of has such a prime vestibule for this sort of activity.


You pride yourself with staying in the city with your family, showing them different cultures, etc., etc. -- please go on a tour of all the public libraries in DC during the extremely cold weather. I will even give you bonus points for using the metro to do so. That tour of the city will teach your children more than the occasional visit with mom to the Tenleytown Library.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why there can’t be day homeless shelters. Set up a facility so homeless can go to the bathroom and hang out in instead of using libraries and public transportation.

People need to have more sympathy for the poor/working class who use public transportation and want to use libraries. They should have a right to use these public places without vagrants interfering with their quiet enjoyment


As someone who's worked with the unhoused for years, I can tell you many don't want shelter. There are almost always significant mental health challenges that contribute.

Police used to arrest them for minor offenses, when others find them to be inconvenient and call 911, like the smell and blocking people when walking into to a public facility (merely being there isn't trespass but blocking public right of way is). But that is a bad "solution" for a lot of reasons. Not the least of which is they are back on the street in a matter of hours. So what was the point other than to give them a criminal record?

It's a mental health issue butting up against multiple constitutional issues. And there truly isn't an easy answer.



The constitutional issues have been resolved. This is now a political issue. Vote wisely.


This. Ronald Reagan made it so these lunatics were let out of asylums. Go back to where it was before that. It is not more humane to let people sleep in the cold or in libraries while high and drenched in their own urine than to keep them in a warm, secure environment where they can get the therapy and medication they need.

Unfortunately it became “woke” to have no problem with people getting high, sleeping in public places, and wallowing in their own urine and feces. It’s almost like Putin or some other foreign power psyoped people into thinking this to damage our country.


You have to also understand that there is an entire NGO industrial complex whose livelihoods depend on prolonging the problem. They in large part finance the campaigns of Democrats, including just about every current member of the Council.

Bingo.
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