Tatiana Schlossberg (Caroline Kennedy's daughter) her terminal cancer at 34

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JFK’s kids and grandkids all turned out well. RFK’s are a very mixed bag.

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Anonymous wrote:What an incredible voice she has. Does not hold back. I'm sorry her kids will lose her and us too. I'd 100% be friends with such a cool human being.

My thoughts too. What a beautiful article and so sad to leave your kids as toddlers. I can’t even imagine. About the only positive thing is that they are so, so little that they won’t really remember it that much.

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My mom had a friend who died of leukemia a year after her baby was born and it's just devastatingly sad.

The way she ended up separated from her daughter, being so sick, is so sad.

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"genetics and environment"

My dad was already suffering from mesothelioma in his 80s when covid took him in 2020, pre-vaccines. (Probably would not have made a difference)

He was a school band teacher for 50 years in practice rooms all sound-proofed with asbestos.

He otherwise came from a long line of people who apparently also lived to old ages. His own dad was born in 1900 and was the youngest of eight. I've seen pictures of that family group and they were into the 1950s and 1960s where they were all still alive.

I just thought of the asbestos when in the essay TS mentioned how people kept asking her how much time she'd spent near ground zero.

My dad had no genetics but he absolutely had environment.

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Anonymous wrote:"genetics and environment"

My dad was already suffering from mesothelioma in his 80s when covid took him in 2020, pre-vaccines. (Probably would not have made a difference)

He was a school band teacher for 50 years in practice rooms all sound-proofed with asbestos.

He otherwise came from a long line of people who apparently also lived to old ages. His own dad was born in 1900 and was the youngest of eight. I've seen pictures of that family group and they were into the 1950s and 1960s where they were all still alive.

I just thought of the asbestos when in the essay TS mentioned how people kept asking her how much time she'd spent near ground zero.

My dad had no genetics but he absolutely had environment.

You don’t get mesothelioma from undisturbed asbestos like in a soundproofed classroom…could he have worked removing or installing asbestos at some point?

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Anonymous wrote:"genetics and environment"

My dad was already suffering from mesothelioma in his 80s when covid took him in 2020, pre-vaccines. (Probably would not have made a difference)

He was a school band teacher for 50 years in practice rooms all sound-proofed with asbestos.

He otherwise came from a long line of people who apparently also lived to old ages. His own dad was born in 1900 and was the youngest of eight. I've seen pictures of that family group and they were into the 1950s and 1960s where they were all still alive.

I just thought of the asbestos when in the essay TS mentioned how people kept asking her how much time she'd spent near ground zero.

My dad had no genetics but he absolutely had environment.

80s is certainly a reasonable lifespan.

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Anonymous wrote:I keep thinking there has to be some treatment, some clinical trial to help here. I know 2 people with AML who made it. I'm hoping for her.

She unfortunately has the Inversion 3 mutation. An "inversion 3 AML" is a specific subtype of AML that has a poor prognosis and a low response rate to standard chemotherapy, making it one of the most difficult types of AML to treat.

Cancer is tricky. People think of some types of cancers as “good” cancer but in reality there are lots of subtypes or gene mutations that can make it really hard to treat.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it heartbreaking because she is famous? This is happening to countless people at the moment.

Dying when your children are too young to remember you is fortunately not common. And losing a child is tragic beyond words. As I heard someone say recently “the law of the universe is that no parent should have to bury a child, but unfortunately no one is enforcing it.” If this essay had been written by someone from a non famous family that had endured this much heartbreak, I think it would still have resonated. It is beautifully written.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"genetics and environment"

My dad was already suffering from mesothelioma in his 80s when covid took him in 2020, pre-vaccines. (Probably would not have made a difference)

He was a school band teacher for 50 years in practice rooms all sound-proofed with asbestos.

He otherwise came from a long line of people who apparently also lived to old ages. His own dad was born in 1900 and was the youngest of eight. I've seen pictures of that family group and they were into the 1950s and 1960s where they were all still alive.

I just thought of the asbestos when in the essay TS mentioned how people kept asking her how much time she'd spent near ground zero.

My dad had no genetics but he absolutely had environment.

Correction. It just takes one or a few disintegrating ceiling tiles to expose you to asbestos. Assuming PP's father was in that band room from, say, the 1970s to 1990, that absolutely could've happened. Especially if it was in a rural / small-budget school district.

You don’t get mesothelioma from undisturbed asbestos like in a soundproofed classroom…could he have worked removing or installing asbestos at some point?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"genetics and environment"

My dad was already suffering from mesothelioma in his 80s when covid took him in 2020, pre-vaccines. (Probably would not have made a difference)

He was a school band teacher for 50 years in practice rooms all sound-proofed with asbestos.

He otherwise came from a long line of people who apparently also lived to old ages. His own dad was born in 1900 and was the youngest of eight. I've seen pictures of that family group and they were into the 1950s and 1960s where they were all still alive.

I just thought of the asbestos when in the essay TS mentioned how people kept asking her how much time she'd spent near ground zero.

My dad had no genetics but he absolutely had environment.

You don’t get mesothelioma from undisturbed asbestos like in a soundproofed classroom…could he have worked removing or installing asbestos at some point?

Correction. It just takes one or a few disintegrating ceiling tiles to expose you to asbestos. Assuming PP's father was in that band room from, say, the 1970s to 1990, that absolutely could've happened. Especially if it was in a rural / small-budget school district.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"genetics and environment"

My dad was already suffering from mesothelioma in his 80s when covid took him in 2020, pre-vaccines. (Probably would not have made a difference)

He was a school band teacher for 50 years in practice rooms all sound-proofed with asbestos.

He otherwise came from a long line of people who apparently also lived to old ages. His own dad was born in 1900 and was the youngest of eight. I've seen pictures of that family group and they were into the 1950s and 1960s where they were all still alive.

I just thought of the asbestos when in the essay TS mentioned how people kept asking her how much time she'd spent near ground zero.

My dad had no genetics but he absolutely had environment.

You don’t get mesothelioma from undisturbed asbestos like in a soundproofed classroom…could he have worked removing or installing asbestos at some point?

Agreed. If it's friable/crumbly - like sprayed on insulation, it's more dangerous. Panels and tiles that are undisturbed are not a hazard.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I keep thinking there has to be some treatment, some clinical trial to help here. I know 2 people with AML who made it. I'm hoping for her.

She unfortunately has the Inversion 3 mutation. An "inversion 3 AML" is a specific subtype of AML that has a poor prognosis and a low response rate to standard chemotherapy, making it one of the most difficult types of AML to treat.

Cancer is tricky. People think of some types of cancers as “good” cancer but in reality there are lots of subtypes or gene mutations that can make it really hard to treat.

I'm a cancer researcher and constantly work to educate the people that believe in the conspiracy theories that pharma doesn't want to cure cancer. They can't comprehend that cancer is a collection of genetically diverse diseases within each type of cancer.

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Anonymous wrote:This gutted me, as I used to think like this before my mom died. It's often the only thought that saved me from suicide. And then my brother died by suicide.

"For my whole life, I have tried to be good, to be a good student and a good sister and a good daughter, and to protect my mother and never make her upset or angry. Now I have added a new tragedy to her life, to our family’s life, and there’s nothing I can do to stop it."

I admire the decency and social conscience with which Caroline's children were raised.

Losing a child is the worst. My heart goes out to them.

I think losing a parent when you are that young is worse. They will spend their whole lives longing for her, wanting to know her but never really being able to and every milestone and growth in maturity will open that wound anew. They will have to grieve and regrieve her again and again.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm confused about her diagnosis...she said she had no symptoms. is it standard to have blood tests and check white cell counts after having a baby? I don't remember that.

Yes I wrote about this in one of the thread about not having health care. Everyone single person is susceptible to cancer and it can happen out of nowhere. I saw so many young people with cancer as a resident (sometimes younger than me at the time). It makes me understand that nothing NOTHING is promised.

Even with health care ….Ive has symptoms for many years. All my doctors and specialists said I was making it up despite clear evidence on ct and other tests. Only one doctor decided to investigate and help me to the right specialists where I am finally testing. I’ve suffered unnecessary for so many years because of lazy doctors who should find a new profession.

Nothing to do with this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm confused about her diagnosis...she said she had no symptoms. is it standard to have blood tests and check white cell counts after having a baby? I don't remember that.

Yes I wrote about this in one of the thread about not having health care. Everyone single person is susceptible to cancer and it can happen out of nowhere. I saw so many young people with cancer as a resident (sometimes younger than me at the time). It makes me understand that nothing NOTHING is promised.

Agree. Cancer doesn’t discriminate. I lost a 3 year old child, my husband, my dad and my grandfather to cancer. All different variants.