Is there any difference in terms of brand quality between T10 ivy and T10 non-ivy?

[Anonymous]

this thread reeks of idiot parents who are justifying overpaying for brand names.

im what they would call ultra high networth. there is no universe i would pay for a dartmouth or brown over schools better equipped for the current transformation that has been taking place this decade plus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:this thread reeks of idiot parents who are justifying overpaying for brand names.

im what they would call ultra high networth. there is no universe i would pay for a dartmouth or brown over schools better equipped for the current transformation that has been taking place this decade plus.

Got it. If the self-proclaimed ultra high net worth says so, it must be true.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this thread reeks of idiot parents who are justifying overpaying for brand names.

im what they would call ultra high networth. there is no universe i would pay for a dartmouth or brown over schools better equipped for the current transformation that has been taking place this decade plus.

Got it. If the self-proclaimed ultra high net worth says so, it must be true.

All good. I’ll stick to my non ivy in palo alto.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:this thread reeks of idiot parents who are justifying overpaying for brand names.

im what they would call ultra high networth. there is no universe i would pay for a dartmouth or brown over schools better equipped for the current transformation that has been taking place this decade plus.

Genuine question. What schools would you pay for or which schools do you think are better equipped for the current transformation?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this thread reeks of idiot parents who are justifying overpaying for brand names.
im what they would call ultra high networth. there is no universe i would pay for a dartmouth or brown over schools better equipped for the current transformation that has been taking place this decade plus.

Genuine question. What schools would you pay for or which schools do you think are better equipped for the current transformation?

I have the same questions. There’s not enough quantifiable evaluation of outcomes or impact from these schools. I really hope to see more objective measures to assess the value of a college education—forget the meaningless bragging rights that parents often focus on. Not everyone cares about LV bags

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this thread reeks of idiot parents who are justifying overpaying for brand names.
im what they would call ultra high networth. there is no universe i would pay for a dartmouth or brown over schools better equipped for the current transformation that has been taking place this decade plus.

Genuine question. What schools would you pay for or which schools do you think are better equipped for the current transformation?

I have the same questions. There’s not enough quantifiable evaluation of outcomes or impact from these schools. I really hope to see more objective measures to assess the value of a college education—forget the meaningless bragging rights that parents often focus on. Not everyone cares about LV bags

stanford, mit, princeton have the highest starting salaries and employment rates and it is not a coincidence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you agree-
T10 ivy differs from T10 non-ivy in their brand style, but not in their brand quality?

depends: Stanford MIT are on par or better than the four ivies(HPPY) in the T10, .Northwestern and JHU are not. Chicago is not. Caltech is too different to compare to any of these schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you agree-
T10 ivy differs from T10 non-ivy in their brand style, but not in their brand quality?

I can tell you none of ivies have ED2.

Many T10 non-ivy have ED2, Chicago has ED0 and WL admits on top of that.

Hopefully you can see the difference in brand quality immediately.

I have always thought it's suspicious that UChicago and JHU have ED2. Makes me think less of the school.

It absolutely is. Northwestern and Duke with one ED round are the only T10 on par with ivies, though neither are quite on par with the top half of the ivy league as far as reputation with top jobs and top grad/prof, though it is debatable. Some of that is due to ivies being many of the top law and med and slightly favor other ivies over other T10-15.

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Anonymous wrote:The only brands that matter in American higher education are Harvard, Yale and Princeton.

No one really gives a shit about any of the others, and their names don’t carry well beyond the regions in which they are located.

And thanks to decades of failed social engineering experiments, even the HYP brands are now compromised and rapidly losing whatever value they once had.

Go to a school where you will be happy and do well. Don’t worry about the folks hold of a “brand”- it matters far less than you think.

Many would disagree...

Incredibly stupid take. Stanford and MIT have well surpassed HYP in this era of tech and AI.

+1

and Penn and Columbia and Duke have surpassed Yale in the same areas. By a lot

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you agree-
T10 ivy differs from T10 non-ivy in their brand style, but not in their brand quality?

I can tell you none of ivies have ED2.

Many T10 non-ivy have ED2, Chicago has ED0 and WL admits on top of that.

Hopefully you can see the difference in brand quality immediately.

I have always thought it's suspicious that UChicago and JHU have ED2. Makes me think less of the school.

It absolutely is. Northwestern and Duke with one ED round are the only T10 on par with ivies, though neither are quite on par with the top half of the ivy league as far as reputation with top jobs and top grad/prof, though it is debatable. Some of that is due to ivies being many of the top law and med and slightly favor other ivies over other T10-15.

is that why hopkins and chicago have higher freshman stats and better employment outcomes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:US News 2026 Top Ten National Universities are:

1) Princeton
2) MIT
3) Harvard
4) Stanford
4) Yale

6) U Chicago
7) Northwestern
7) Duke
7) U Penn
7) JHU

CalTech is #11.
Cornell is #12.
Brown & Dartmouth are tied at #13.
Not sure that Columbia is still in business.

Top Ten Ivy League schools are Harvard, Yale, Princeton, & U Penn.

Top Ten non-Ivy League schools are MIT, Stanford, U Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, & Johns Hopkins (JHU).

With respect to BRAND, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Wharton, MIT, & Stanford are the most highly regarded.

Regarding quality of education, all of the Top Ten universities, whether in the Ivy League or not, are outstanding. Add in Caltech & Cornell.

Brown, Dartmouth, and Columbia are in a lower class regarding prestige, but all offer great academics.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only brands that matter in American higher education are Harvard, Yale and Princeton.

No one really gives a shit about any of the others, and their names don’t carry well beyond the regions in which they are located.

And thanks to decades of failed social engineering experiments, even the HYP brands are now compromised and rapidly losing whatever value they once had.

Go to a school where you will be happy and do well. Don’t worry about the folks hold of a “brand”- it matters far less than you think.

Many would disagree...

Incredibly stupid take. Stanford and MIT have well surpassed HYP in this era of tech and AI.

+1

and Penn and Columbia and Duke have surpassed Yale in the same areas. By a lot

In tech and AI arena, have to mention Cornell, which is superior to HYP, Penn, Columbia, and Duke.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:US News 2026 Top Ten National Universities are:

1) Princeton
2) MIT
3) Harvard
4) Stanford
4) Yale

6) U Chicago
7) Northwestern
7) Duke
7) U Penn
7) JHU

CalTech is #11.
Cornell is #12.
Brown & Dartmouth are tied at #13.
Not sure that Columbia is still in business.

Top Ten Ivy League schools are Harvard, Yale, Princeton, & U Penn.

Top Ten non-Ivy League schools are MIT, Stanford, U Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, & Johns Hopkins (JHU).

With respect to BRAND, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Wharton, MIT, & Stanford are the most highly regarded.

Regarding quality of education, all of the Top Ten universities, whether in the Ivy League or not, are outstanding. Add in Caltech & Cornell.

Brown, Dartmouth, and Columbia are in a lower class regarding prestige, but all offer great academics.

Can you post the other publications college rankings for comparison.

[Anonymous]

Definitely different reputation for Tech

[Anonymous]

Chicago ranks #1 Econ.