Is there any difference in terms of brand quality between T10 ivy and T10 non-ivy?

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Anonymous wrote:Do you agree-
T10 ivy differs from T10 non-ivy in their brand style, but not in their brand quality?

I can tell you none of ivies have ED2.

Many T10 non-ivy have ED2, Chicago has ED0 and WL admits on top of that.

Hopefully you can see the difference in brand quality immediately.

I have always thought it's suspicious that UChicago and JHU have ED2. Makes me think less of the school.

location is the reason why. If they were in the tri state or new england, they would not have ed2.

chicago is much more desirable than middle of nowhere new hampshire or ithaca or rhode island

no, it isn't.

bucolic new england is the traditional americana college experience that is deep in our cultural memory stretching back centuries.

providence is a better college city than chicago. chicago is a superior city, but not as a college city.

imaging prefering 0-block, king von, chief keef, chiraqology to college hill in providence or hanover.

For middle of the pack football fanatics, Dartmouth is not a bad choice..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s about fit you moron.

My current T10 kid only applied to 2 other T10. Rest were lower ranked T20. Got into most of them or waitlisted.

When you really heavily tailor your list, you tend to understand what a school is looking for and are able to match it much better in the Supp essays. It is not one-size-fits-all.

That’s the reason why most of the people who shotgun all of them end up doing so poorly in the admissions process.

BINGO! It's defiantly not all about rank. Find the right fit and apply, and yes, there will likely only be 3-4 max in the T20 that are "right fit".

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The "ivy league" is just a sports conference that includes schools from hundreds of years ago. There are definitely "better" and "worse" ivies depending on what your kid is looking for - so the quality is not even consistent among ivies.

Similar to NESCAC that has a range of different schools, not all enjoy the same prestige, quality or value.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s about fit you moron.

My current T10 kid only applied to 2 other T10. Rest were lower ranked T20. Got into most of them or waitlisted.

When you really heavily tailor your list, you tend to understand what a school is looking for and are able to match it much better in the Supp essays. It is not one-size-fits-all.

That’s the reason why most of the people who shotgun all of them end up doing so poorly in the admissions process.

BINGO! It's defiantly not all about rank. Find the right fit and apply, and yes, there will likely only be 3-4 max in the T20 that are "right fit".

This PP is defiantly a role model for Ivy League students

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you agree-
T10 ivy differs from T10 non-ivy in their brand style, but not in their brand quality?

I can tell you none of ivies have ED2.

Many T10 non-ivy have ED2, Chicago has ED0 and WL admits on top of that.

Hopefully you can see the difference in brand quality immediately.

ivies like dartmouth admit a ton via waitlist. not impressive

Dartmouth admitted ZERO from the WL last cycle.

congrats but it has not been that way historically

https://www.ivycoach.com/the-ivy-coach-blog/ivy-league/dartmouth-college-waitlist-acceptance-rate/

not bad for a
lesser ivy i suppose

The link says Dartmouth accepts 44 kids off the waitlist on average over last 20 years. That's 4% of the class size (1140).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s about fit you moron.

My current T10 kid only applied to 2 other T10. Rest were lower ranked T20. Got into most of them or waitlisted.

When you really heavily tailor your list, you tend to understand what a school is looking for and are able to match it much better in the Supp essays. It is not one-size-fits-all.

That’s the reason why most of the people who shotgun all of them end up doing so poorly in the admissions process.

BINGO! It's defiantly not all about rank. Find the right fit and apply, and yes, there will likely only be 3-4 max in the T20 that are "right fit".

Similar outcomes with two kids and I agree

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you agree-
T10 ivy differs from T10 non-ivy in their brand style, but not in their brand quality?

I can tell you none of ivies have ED2.

Many T10 non-ivy have ED2, Chicago has ED0 and WL admits on top of that.

Hopefully you can see the difference in brand quality immediately.

I have always thought it's suspicious that UChicago and JHU have ED2. Makes me think less of the school.

location is the reason why. If they were in the tri state or new england, they would not have ed2.

chicago is much more desirable than middle of nowhere new hampshire or ithaca or rhode island

no, it isn't.

bucolic new england is the traditional americana college experience that is deep in our cultural memory stretching back centuries.

providence is a better college city than chicago. chicago is a superior city, but not as a college city.

imaging prefering 0-block, king von, chief keef, chiraqology to college hill in providence or hanover.

ah yes bucolic hanover and ithaca with drinking problems is exactly the college experience of americana. put down the wine, it’s vinegar now

UChicago has problems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acU_T-ZvE7A

A student is trying to grab a gun out of the hand of someone that is trying to rob her. Another student is relaxing on the grass watching like it is a normal day.

[Anonymous]

Chicago and JHU have about 10% students from top 1% net worth families.

Ivies have ~20% students from top 1% NW families.

The quality of peers and the network you got from ivies far exceeds those from Chicago and JHU.

[Anonymous]

At the non-Ivies you actually have to study.

[Anonymous]

Non-ivy such as MIT, Stanford, Duke, etc are better than most Ivies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Chicago and JHU have about 10% students from top 1% net worth families.

Ivies have ~20% students from top 1% NW families.

The quality of peers and the network you got from ivies far exceeds those from Chicago and JHU.

good way of looking at things. the ivies for sure are better to date at as well. jhu and chicago are some of the worst campuses to date in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At the non-Ivies you actually have to study.

All of T10 ivies are test required.

Chicago, Duke, and Northwestern are test optional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The "ivy league" is just a sports conference that includes schools from hundreds of years ago. There are definitely "better" and "worse" ivies depending on what your kid is looking for - so the quality is not even consistent among ivies.

Similar to NESCAC that has a range of different schools, not all enjoy the same prestige, quality or value.

Perfectly said. This is one of the only intelligent comments on this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Chicago and JHU have about 10% students from top 1% net worth families.

Ivies have ~20% students from top 1% NW families.

The quality of peers and the network you got from ivies far exceeds those from Chicago and JHU.

that study is from 2017 a long time ago and irrelevant today. also cornell had lower percents than either.

learn to read better

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At the non-Ivies you actually have to study.

All of T10 ivies are test required.

Chicago, Duke, and Northwestern are test optional.

yale is not sat/act required