Program Analysis Lets Shut It Down

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Anonymous wrote:But each school has its own pie (per budgets). And schools all don’t have the same needs or demands. It is truly odd to demand that everything be the same when not all schools have the same needs.

This! We are a large and diverse county. There is some leeway needed for course offerings. If only 5-10 students sign-up for a class, it does not have enough interest at the school and should not be held. This is true for both advanced classes as well as classes in the arts, etc. For example, other schools have had to really cancel some of their theater and art classes because they just don’t have the interest. 25 schools that all have their own needs will not all be exactly the same and expecting them to be is ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:But each school has its own pie (per budgets). And schools all don’t have the same needs or demands. It is truly odd to demand that everything be the same when not all schools have the same needs.

This! We are a large and diverse county. There is some leeway needed for course offerings. If only 5-10 students sign-up for a class, it does not have enough interest at the school and should not be held. This is true for both advanced classes as well as classes in the arts, etc. For example, other schools have had to really cancel some of their theater and art classes because they just don’t have the interest. 25 schools that all have their own needs will not all be exactly the same and expecting them to be is ridiculous.

In other words, you are unwilling to invest extra tax dollars in giving smart low income students the same opportunities as high income students. Nevermind these students are the future the opportunities we give them now will pay dividends later. Especially low income kids that can't do fancy summer programs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But each school has its own pie (per budgets). And schools all don’t have the same needs or demands. It is truly odd to demand that everything be the same when not all schools have the same needs.

There is a difference between:
- Offering the exact same number of sections for each course at every school. Nobody is suggesting this.
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- Offering the opportunity for every MCPS student to access the same courses at their home schools - this is what people want. There are kids of every level at every school, but the cohorts at each level are different sizes. You can't say the 50 kids at Whitman "need" a class but 20 similar kids at Kennedy do not need that class.

What is the list of courses beyond what is offered that you desire and how would lack of demand for such courses work if it were to happen? From where in a school budget should the funds come? What would you get rid of at your school?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But each school has its own pie (per budgets). And schools all don’t have the same needs or demands. It is truly odd to demand that everything be the same when not all schools have the same needs.

This! We are a large and diverse county. There is some leeway needed for course offerings. If only 5-10 students sign-up for a class, it does not have enough interest at the school and should not be held. This is true for both advanced classes as well as classes in the arts, etc. For example, other schools have had to really cancel some of their theater and art classes because they just don’t have the interest. 25 schools that all have their own needs will not all be exactly the same and expecting them to be is ridiculous.

In other words, you are unwilling to invest extra tax dollars in giving smart low income students the same opportunities as high income students. Nevermind these students are the future the opportunities we give them now will pay dividends later. Especially low income kids that can't do fancy summer programs.

With the massive budget shortfall, where would those extra tax dollars to come from? Public budgets have to serve the highest number of people in the best way. Holding a class for 5 kids doesn't do that.

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Anonymous wrote:But each school has its own pie (per budgets). And schools all don’t have the same needs or demands. It is truly odd to demand that everything be the same when not all schools have the same needs.

This! We are a large and diverse county. There is some leeway needed for course offerings. If only 5-10 students sign-up for a class, it does not have enough interest at the school and should not be held. This is true for both advanced classes as well as classes in the arts, etc. For example, other schools have had to really cancel some of their theater and art classes because they just don’t have the interest. 25 schools that all have their own needs will not all be exactly the same and expecting them to be is ridiculous.

In other words, you are unwilling to invest extra tax dollars in giving smart low income students the same opportunities as high income students. Nevermind these students are the future the opportunities we give them now will pay dividends later. Especially low income kids that can't do fancy summer programs.

With the massive budget shortfall, where would those extra tax dollars to come from? Public budgets have to serve the highest number of people in the best way. Holding a class for 5 kids doesn't do that.

They are proposing creating dozens of new regional programs so they definitely have the money. Don't create these regional programs. Use the money to strengthen kids' home schools.

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Anonymous wrote:But each school has its own pie (per budgets). And schools all don’t have the same needs or demands. It is truly odd to demand that everything be the same when not all schools have the same needs.

There is a difference between:
- Offering the exact same number of sections for each course at every school. Nobody is suggesting this.
And
- Offering the opportunity for every MCPS student to access the same courses at their home schools - this is what people want. There are kids of every level at every school, but the cohorts at each level are different sizes. You can't say the 50 kids at Whitman "need" a class but 20 similar kids at Kennedy do not need that class.

What is the list of courses beyond what is offered that you desire and how would lack of demand for such courses work if it were to happen? From where in a school budget should the funds come? What would you get rid of at your school?

MCPS should be doing the course analysis. If you are curious, look it up, many schools put their course bulletins online.

The budget comes from not doing these dumb regional programs.

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Anonymous wrote:But each school has its own pie (per budgets). And schools all don’t have the same needs or demands. It is truly odd to demand that everything be the same when not all schools have the same needs.

There is a difference between:
- Offering the exact same number of sections for each course at every school. Nobody is suggesting this.
And
- Offering the opportunity for every MCPS student to access the same courses at their home schools - this is what people want. There are kids of every level at every school, but the cohorts at each level are different sizes. You can't say the 50 kids at Whitman "need" a class but 20 similar kids at Kennedy do not need that class.

What is the list of courses beyond what is offered that you desire and how would lack of demand for such courses work if it were to happen? From where in a school budget should the funds come? What would you get rid of at your school?

MCPS should be doing the course analysis. If you are curious, look it up, many schools put their course bulletins online.

The budget comes from not doing these dumb regional programs.

MCPS has done the course analysis and is offering a set of the same courses at all schools. So we are all set, then, and no one should have a problem.

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Anonymous wrote:But each school has its own pie (per budgets). And schools all don’t have the same needs or demands. It is truly odd to demand that everything be the same when not all schools have the same needs.

There is a difference between:
- Offering the exact same number of sections for each course at every school. Nobody is suggesting this.
And
- Offering the opportunity for every MCPS student to access the same courses at their home schools - this is what people want. There are kids of every level at every school, but the cohorts at each level are different sizes. You can't say the 50 kids at Whitman "need" a class but 20 similar kids at Kennedy do not need that class.

What is the list of courses beyond what is offered that you desire and how would lack of demand for such courses work if it were to happen? From where in a school budget should the funds come? What would you get rid of at your school?

MCPS should be doing the course analysis. If you are curious, look it up, many schools put their course bulletins online.

The budget comes from not doing these dumb regional programs.

MCPS has done the course analysis and is offering a set of the same courses at all schools. So we are all set, then, and no one should have a problem.

False. They have not analyzed courses. They have analyzed certain programs and are pretending to make it all equal (but using the word equity since they apparently don't have a dictionary).

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Anonymous wrote:But each school has its own pie (per budgets). And schools all don’t have the same needs or demands. It is truly odd to demand that everything be the same when not all schools have the same needs.

There is a difference between:
- Offering the exact same number of sections for each course at every school. Nobody is suggesting this.
And
- Offering the opportunity for every MCPS student to access the same courses at their home schools - this is what people want. There are kids of every level at every school, but the cohorts at each level are different sizes. You can't say the 50 kids at Whitman "need" a class but 20 similar kids at Kennedy do not need that class.

What is the list of courses beyond what is offered that you desire and how would lack of demand for such courses work if it were to happen? From where in a school budget should the funds come? What would you get rid of at your school?

MCPS should be doing the course analysis. If you are curious, look it up, many schools put their course bulletins online.

The budget comes from not doing these dumb regional programs.

MCPS has done the course analysis and is offering a set of the same courses at all schools. So we are all set, then, and no one should have a problem.

False. They have not analyzed courses. They have analyzed certain programs and are pretending to make it all equal (but using the word equity since they apparently don't have a dictionary).

What course do you believe that they are missing offering in every school that should be part of the core offering? MCPS has already indicated that through Calculus and AP Stats needs to be offered at all schoools. I think that's acceptable as only 3 years of HS math are required. Most if not all schools offer AP Lang and AP Lit or IB HL English. I've heard some schools are missing AP Bio or AP Chem. Outside of this what needs to be present for it to be a consistent core offering go classes?

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Anonymous wrote:But each school has its own pie (per budgets). And schools all don’t have the same needs or demands. It is truly odd to demand that everything be the same when not all schools have the same needs.

There is a difference between:
- Offering the exact same number of sections for each course at every school. Nobody is suggesting this.
And
- Offering the opportunity for every MCPS student to access the same courses at their home schools - this is what people want. There are kids of every level at every school, but the cohorts at each level are different sizes. You can't say the 50 kids at Whitman "need" a class but 20 similar kids at Kennedy do not need that class.

What is the list of courses beyond what is offered that you desire and how would lack of demand for such courses work if it were to happen? From where in a school budget should the funds come? What would you get rid of at your school?

MCPS should be doing the course analysis. If you are curious, look it up, many schools put their course bulletins online.

The budget comes from not doing these dumb regional programs.

MCPS has done the course analysis and is offering a set of the same courses at all schools. So we are all set, then, and no one should have a problem.

False. They have not analyzed courses. They have analyzed certain programs and are pretending to make it all equal (but using the word equity since they apparently don't have a dictionary).

What course do you believe that they are missing offering in every school that should be part of the core offering? MCPS has already indicated that through Calculus and AP Stats needs to be offered at all schoools. I think that's acceptable as only 3 years of HS math are required. Most if not all schools offer AP Lang and AP Lit or IB HL English. I've heard some schools are missing AP Bio or AP Chem. Outside of this what needs to be present for it to be a consistent core offering go classes?

For example, Whitman has 3 different AP physics courses and many schools have zero AP physics courses. Again, this is an analysis that MCPS should have done, but hasn't.

To earn a MD high school diploma students need 4 years of math btw

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Anonymous wrote:But each school has its own pie (per budgets). And schools all don’t have the same needs or demands. It is truly odd to demand that everything be the same when not all schools have the same needs.

There is a difference between:
- Offering the exact same number of sections for each course at every school. Nobody is suggesting this.
And
- Offering the opportunity for every MCPS student to access the same courses at their home schools - this is what people want. There are kids of every level at every school, but the cohorts at each level are different sizes. You can't say the 50 kids at Whitman "need" a class but 20 similar kids at Kennedy do not need that class.

What is the list of courses beyond what is offered that you desire and how would lack of demand for such courses work if it were to happen? From where in a school budget should the funds come? What would you get rid of at your school?

MCPS should be doing the course analysis. If you are curious, look it up, many schools put their course bulletins online.

The budget comes from not doing these dumb regional programs.

MCPS has done the course analysis and is offering a set of the same courses at all schools. So we are all set, then, and no one should have a problem.

False. They have not analyzed courses. They have analyzed certain programs and are pretending to make it all equal (but using the word equity since they apparently don't have a dictionary).

What course do you believe that they are missing offering in every school that should be part of the core offering? MCPS has already indicated that through Calculus and AP Stats needs to be offered at all schoools. I think that's acceptable as only 3 years of HS math are required. Most if not all schools offer AP Lang and AP Lit or IB HL English. I've heard some schools are missing AP Bio or AP Chem. Outside of this what needs to be present for it to be a consistent core offering go classes?

For example, Whitman has 3 different AP physics courses and many schools have zero AP physics courses. Again, this is an analysis that MCPS should have done, but hasn't.

To earn a MD high school diploma students need 4 years of math btw

What school have zero AP Physics courses? Is it that the school has zero courses or that enough students didn't express interest? And by zero, I mean the course is not even offered on the enrollment card for students to register?

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Anonymous wrote:But each school has its own pie (per budgets). And schools all don’t have the same needs or demands. It is truly odd to demand that everything be the same when not all schools have the same needs.

There is a difference between:
- Offering the exact same number of sections for each course at every school. Nobody is suggesting this.
And
- Offering the opportunity for every MCPS student to access the same courses at their home schools - this is what people want. There are kids of every level at every school, but the cohorts at each level are different sizes. You can't say the 50 kids at Whitman "need" a class but 20 similar kids at Kennedy do not need that class.

What is the list of courses beyond what is offered that you desire and how would lack of demand for such courses work if it were to happen? From where in a school budget should the funds come? What would you get rid of at your school?

MCPS should be doing the course analysis. If you are curious, look it up, many schools put their course bulletins online.

The budget comes from not doing these dumb regional programs.

MCPS has done the course analysis and is offering a set of the same courses at all schools. So we are all set, then, and no one should have a problem.

False. They have not analyzed courses. They have analyzed certain programs and are pretending to make it all equal (but using the word equity since they apparently don't have a dictionary).

What course do you believe that they are missing offering in every school that should be part of the core offering? MCPS has already indicated that through Calculus and AP Stats needs to be offered at all schoools. I think that's acceptable as only 3 years of HS math are required. Most if not all schools offer AP Lang and AP Lit or IB HL English. I've heard some schools are missing AP Bio or AP Chem. Outside of this what needs to be present for it to be a consistent core offering go classes?

For example, Whitman has 3 different AP physics courses and many schools have zero AP physics courses. Again, this is an analysis that MCPS should have done, but hasn't.

To earn a MD high school diploma students need 4 years of math btw

What school have zero AP Physics courses? Is it that the school has zero courses or that enough students didn't express interest? And by zero, I mean the course is not even offered on the enrollment card for students to register?

Look up Northwood, Einstein and Kennedy (google name of the school and "course bulletin"). While you are there compare their AP social studies offerings to Whitman and tell me why Whitman needs the resources that come with a magnet humanities program.

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Wait this is the MVC poster again, isn’t it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wait this is the MVC poster again, isn’t it

Nope, I actually dgaf about MVC

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Anonymous wrote:But each school has its own pie (per budgets). And schools all don’t have the same needs or demands. It is truly odd to demand that everything be the same when not all schools have the same needs.

There is a difference between:
- Offering the exact same number of sections for each course at every school. Nobody is suggesting this.
And
- Offering the opportunity for every MCPS student to access the same courses at their home schools - this is what people want. There are kids of every level at every school, but the cohorts at each level are different sizes. You can't say the 50 kids at Whitman "need" a class but 20 similar kids at Kennedy do not need that class.

What is the list of courses beyond what is offered that you desire and how would lack of demand for such courses work if it were to happen? From where in a school budget should the funds come? What would you get rid of at your school?

MCPS should be doing the course analysis. If you are curious, look it up, many schools put their course bulletins online.

The budget comes from not doing these dumb regional programs.

MCPS has done the course analysis and is offering a set of the same courses at all schools. So we are all set, then, and no one should have a problem.

False. They have not analyzed courses. They have analyzed certain programs and are pretending to make it all equal (but using the word equity since they apparently don't have a dictionary).

What course do you believe that they are missing offering in every school that should be part of the core offering? MCPS has already indicated that through Calculus and AP Stats needs to be offered at all schoools. I think that's acceptable as only 3 years of HS math are required. Most if not all schools offer AP Lang and AP Lit or IB HL English. I've heard some schools are missing AP Bio or AP Chem. Outside of this what needs to be present for it to be a consistent core offering go classes?

For example, Whitman has 3 different AP physics courses and many schools have zero AP physics courses. Again, this is an analysis that MCPS should have done, but hasn't.

To earn a MD high school diploma students need 4 years of math btw

What school have zero AP Physics courses? Is it that the school has zero courses or that enough students didn't express interest? And by zero, I mean the course is not even offered on the enrollment card for students to register?

Look up Northwood, Einstein and Kennedy (google name of the school and "course bulletin"). While you are there compare their AP social studies offerings to Whitman and tell me why Whitman needs the resources that come with a magnet humanities program.

They still haven't even bothered to look this up lol

They just demand information to waste people's time and then distract from it if we invest the time to post it.