Program Analysis Lets Shut It Down

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Anonymous wrote:What I’m hearing, and it could be wrong, is that MCPS wants to give high performing kids stuck in underperforming kids a way to have their needs met through programs. But because MCPS didn’t actually ask anyone, they assumed wrong and these families just want their needs adequately met at the schools they chose for themselves (their home schools). High performing kids at well resourced schools also don’t tend to feel the need for these programs a lot of the time, so adding more of them is probably pretty unnecessary. Maybe they could slowly add a few more countywide ones to increase seats incrementally and so travel is not as long. Are we all in agreement?

Exactly! This was once done for Poolsville SMCS in a slow and corporative pace. Blair SMCS teachers and coordinators helped a lot in the first few years in building another strong program to benefit upper county high performers without sacrificing others' priorities. This round SMCS alumni foundation and coordinator tried to offer help and suggestions, and were shut the door from the beginning.

The regional model is going to drain every HS' existing resource to build a bunch of watered-down low quality programs that no one would be interested in.

Couldn't they just do this again by putting a 3rd SMCS magnet at Woodward and then divide the county into 3rds instead of 6 regions?

Am I missing some reason this wouldn't be a far more manageable project with a higher chance of success than their plan?

You are under the false impression that this is just about SMCS, and it is not. It is about addressing several things at once.
-Access to programs which they continually get complaints about do to limited seats and distance
-Ensure programs and courses to align with Maryland Career and College standards for completion that are being pushed by MSDE
- Coming up with a plan to reduce transportation cost
- Dealing with the inequity of the DCC/NEC

The DCC has inequity? Gasp!

The DCC itself is an inequity because there are not consortium all across the county.

Many DCC families would be good without the consortium if the DCC schools had the same opportunities as the W schools.

You do realize the district is bigger than just the DCC and W schools?

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Anonymous wrote:What I’m hearing, and it could be wrong, is that MCPS wants to give high performing kids stuck in underperforming kids a way to have their needs met through programs. But because MCPS didn’t actually ask anyone, they assumed wrong and these families just want their needs adequately met at the schools they chose for themselves (their home schools). High performing kids at well resourced schools also don’t tend to feel the need for these programs a lot of the time, so adding more of them is probably pretty unnecessary. Maybe they could slowly add a few more countywide ones to increase seats incrementally and so travel is not as long. Are we all in agreement?

Exactly! This was once done for Poolsville SMCS in a slow and corporative pace. Blair SMCS teachers and coordinators helped a lot in the first few years in building another strong program to benefit upper county high performers without sacrificing others' priorities. This round SMCS alumni foundation and coordinator tried to offer help and suggestions, and were shut the door from the beginning.

The regional model is going to drain every HS' existing resource to build a bunch of watered-down low quality programs that no one would be interested in.

Couldn't they just do this again by putting a 3rd SMCS magnet at Woodward and then divide the county into 3rds instead of 6 regions?

Am I missing some reason this wouldn't be a far more manageable project with a higher chance of success than their plan?

You are under the false impression that this is just about SMCS, and it is not. It is about addressing several things at once.
-Access to programs which they continually get complaints about do to limited seats and distance
-Ensure programs and courses to align with Maryland Career and College standards for completion that are being pushed by MSDE
- Coming up with a plan to reduce transportation cost
- Dealing with the inequity of the DCC/NEC

The DCC has inequity? Gasp!

The DCC itself is an inequity because there are not consortium all across the county.

Yep. Making all six regions into consortia would be the best outcome.

But MCPS doesn’t want to pay for that much transportation. That’s why the numbers for the new programs are so small. They’re tied to bus capacity.

It would be smarter to create a core set of pathways (humanities, digital technology, PLTW bioscience/engineering and arts) at all schools. MCSP is planning to hire program coordinators for all school anyway and most of the suggested programs just repackage existing classes or add few new electives. Instead of paying for buses, MCPS should pay to improve curriculum and add more good electives. Hell, they could probably hire teachers to cover MVC in all schools with what they won’t spend on buses.

Then MCPS can improve the regional IB magnets and add a couple SMCS magnets that actually mirror Poolesville and Blair for kids who want the intensive challenge.

This proposal with 15 magnets but only 12 bus routes per region is stupid and it will prevent programs from ever growing.

DP - the best outcome would be getting rid of almost all special programs and focusing on increased academic differentiation and support at all schools.

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Anonymous wrote:What I’m hearing, and it could be wrong, is that MCPS wants to give high performing kids stuck in underperforming kids a way to have their needs met through programs. But because MCPS didn’t actually ask anyone, they assumed wrong and these families just want their needs adequately met at the schools they chose for themselves (their home schools). High performing kids at well resourced schools also don’t tend to feel the need for these programs a lot of the time, so adding more of them is probably pretty unnecessary. Maybe they could slowly add a few more countywide ones to increase seats incrementally and so travel is not as long. Are we all in agreement?

Exactly! This was once done for Poolsville SMCS in a slow and corporative pace. Blair SMCS teachers and coordinators helped a lot in the first few years in building another strong program to benefit upper county high performers without sacrificing others' priorities. This round SMCS alumni foundation and coordinator tried to offer help and suggestions, and were shut the door from the beginning.

The regional model is going to drain every HS' existing resource to build a bunch of watered-down low quality programs that no one would be interested in.

Couldn't they just do this again by putting a 3rd SMCS magnet at Woodward and then divide the county into 3rds instead of 6 regions?

Am I missing some reason this wouldn't be a far more manageable project with a higher chance of success than their plan?

You are under the false impression that this is just about SMCS, and it is not. It is about addressing several things at once.
-Access to programs which they continually get complaints about do to limited seats and distance
-Ensure programs and courses to align with Maryland Career and College standards for completion that are being pushed by MSDE
- Coming up with a plan to reduce transportation cost
- Dealing with the inequity of the DCC/NEC

The DCC has inequity? Gasp!

The DCC itself is an inequity because there are not consortium all across the county.

Many DCC families would be good without the consortium if the DCC schools had the same opportunities as the W schools.

Many of the kids on the DCC aren't even showing up for school routinely and you want to throw more good money after bad? No thanks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What I’m hearing, and it could be wrong, is that MCPS wants to give high performing kids stuck in underperforming kids a way to have their needs met through programs. But because MCPS didn’t actually ask anyone, they assumed wrong and these families just want their needs adequately met at the schools they chose for themselves (their home schools). High performing kids at well resourced schools also don’t tend to feel the need for these programs a lot of the time, so adding more of them is probably pretty unnecessary. Maybe they could slowly add a few more countywide ones to increase seats incrementally and so travel is not as long. Are we all in agreement?

Exactly! This was once done for Poolsville SMCS in a slow and corporative pace. Blair SMCS teachers and coordinators helped a lot in the first few years in building another strong program to benefit upper county high performers without sacrificing others' priorities. This round SMCS alumni foundation and coordinator tried to offer help and suggestions, and were shut the door from the beginning.

The regional model is going to drain every HS' existing resource to build a bunch of watered-down low quality programs that no one would be interested in.

Couldn't they just do this again by putting a 3rd SMCS magnet at Woodward and then divide the county into 3rds instead of 6 regions?

Am I missing some reason this wouldn't be a far more manageable project with a higher chance of success than their plan?

You are under the false impression that this is just about SMCS, and it is not. It is about addressing several things at once.
-Access to programs which they continually get complaints about do to limited seats and distance
-Ensure programs and courses to align with Maryland Career and College standards for completion that are being pushed by MSDE
- Coming up with a plan to reduce transportation cost
- Dealing with the inequity of the DCC/NEC

The DCC has inequity? Gasp!

The DCC itself is an inequity because there are not consortium all across the county.

Many DCC families would be good without the consortium if the DCC schools had the same opportunities as the W schools.

Many of the kids on the DCC aren't even showing up for school routinely and you want to throw more good money after bad? No thanks.

ICE does regular sweeps at bus stops outside Wheaton HS. You’d skip school, too, if showing up put you at risk of being disappeared by a brute squad.

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Anonymous wrote:What I’m hearing, and it could be wrong, is that MCPS wants to give high performing kids stuck in underperforming kids a way to have their needs met through programs. But because MCPS didn’t actually ask anyone, they assumed wrong and these families just want their needs adequately met at the schools they chose for themselves (their home schools). High performing kids at well resourced schools also don’t tend to feel the need for these programs a lot of the time, so adding more of them is probably pretty unnecessary. Maybe they could slowly add a few more countywide ones to increase seats incrementally and so travel is not as long. Are we all in agreement?

Exactly! This was once done for Poolsville SMCS in a slow and corporative pace. Blair SMCS teachers and coordinators helped a lot in the first few years in building another strong program to benefit upper county high performers without sacrificing others' priorities. This round SMCS alumni foundation and coordinator tried to offer help and suggestions, and were shut the door from the beginning.

The regional model is going to drain every HS' existing resource to build a bunch of watered-down low quality programs that no one would be interested in.

Couldn't they just do this again by putting a 3rd SMCS magnet at Woodward and then divide the county into 3rds instead of 6 regions?

Am I missing some reason this wouldn't be a far more manageable project with a higher chance of success than their plan?

You are under the false impression that this is just about SMCS, and it is not. It is about addressing several things at once.
-Access to programs which they continually get complaints about do to limited seats and distance
-Ensure programs and courses to align with Maryland Career and College standards for completion that are being pushed by MSDE
- Coming up with a plan to reduce transportation cost
- Dealing with the inequity of the DCC/NEC

The DCC has inequity? Gasp!

The DCC itself is an inequity because there are not consortium all across the county.

Many DCC families would be good without the consortium if the DCC schools had the same opportunities as the W schools.

Many of the kids on the DCC aren't even showing up for school routinely and you want to throw more good money after bad? No thanks.

ICE does regular sweeps at bus stops outside Wheaton HS. You’d skip school, too, if showing up put you at risk of being disappeared by a brute squad.

But the absenteeism predates this recent ICE surge.

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Anonymous wrote:What I’m hearing, and it could be wrong, is that MCPS wants to give high performing kids stuck in underperforming kids a way to have their needs met through programs. But because MCPS didn’t actually ask anyone, they assumed wrong and these families just want their needs adequately met at the schools they chose for themselves (their home schools). High performing kids at well resourced schools also don’t tend to feel the need for these programs a lot of the time, so adding more of them is probably pretty unnecessary. Maybe they could slowly add a few more countywide ones to increase seats incrementally and so travel is not as long. Are we all in agreement?

Exactly! This was once done for Poolsville SMCS in a slow and corporative pace. Blair SMCS teachers and coordinators helped a lot in the first few years in building another strong program to benefit upper county high performers without sacrificing others' priorities. This round SMCS alumni foundation and coordinator tried to offer help and suggestions, and were shut the door from the beginning.

The regional model is going to drain every HS' existing resource to build a bunch of watered-down low quality programs that no one would be interested in.

Couldn't they just do this again by putting a 3rd SMCS magnet at Woodward and then divide the county into 3rds instead of 6 regions?

Am I missing some reason this wouldn't be a far more manageable project with a higher chance of success than their plan?

You are under the false impression that this is just about SMCS, and it is not. It is about addressing several things at once.
-Access to programs which they continually get complaints about do to limited seats and distance
-Ensure programs and courses to align with Maryland Career and College standards for completion that are being pushed by MSDE
- Coming up with a plan to reduce transportation cost
- Dealing with the inequity of the DCC/NEC

The DCC has inequity? Gasp!

The DCC itself is an inequity because there are not consortium all across the county.

Many DCC families would be good without the consortium if the DCC schools had the same opportunities as the W schools.

Many of the kids on the DCC aren't even showing up for school routinely and you want to throw more good money after bad? No thanks.

ICE does regular sweeps at bus stops outside Wheaton HS. You’d skip school, too, if showing up put you at risk of being disappeared by a brute squad.

But the absenteeism predates this recent ICE surge.

Ok, so the question is why are these kids skipping and what can we do as a school system and community to support them. If they are struggling with the basics as they were failed in elementary school, it’s near impossible to be successful and many have given up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What I’m hearing, and it could be wrong, is that MCPS wants to give high performing kids stuck in underperforming kids a way to have their needs met through programs. But because MCPS didn’t actually ask anyone, they assumed wrong and these families just want their needs adequately met at the schools they chose for themselves (their home schools). High performing kids at well resourced schools also don’t tend to feel the need for these programs a lot of the time, so adding more of them is probably pretty unnecessary. Maybe they could slowly add a few more countywide ones to increase seats incrementally and so travel is not as long. Are we all in agreement?

Exactly! This was once done for Poolsville SMCS in a slow and corporative pace. Blair SMCS teachers and coordinators helped a lot in the first few years in building another strong program to benefit upper county high performers without sacrificing others' priorities. This round SMCS alumni foundation and coordinator tried to offer help and suggestions, and were shut the door from the beginning.

The regional model is going to drain every HS' existing resource to build a bunch of watered-down low quality programs that no one would be interested in.

Couldn't they just do this again by putting a 3rd SMCS magnet at Woodward and then divide the county into 3rds instead of 6 regions?

Am I missing some reason this wouldn't be a far more manageable project with a higher chance of success than their plan?

You are under the false impression that this is just about SMCS, and it is not. It is about addressing several things at once.
-Access to programs which they continually get complaints about do to limited seats and distance
-Ensure programs and courses to align with Maryland Career and College standards for completion that are being pushed by MSDE
- Coming up with a plan to reduce transportation cost
- Dealing with the inequity of the DCC/NEC

The DCC has inequity? Gasp!

The DCC itself is an inequity because there are not consortium all across the county.

Many DCC families would be good without the consortium if the DCC schools had the same opportunities as the W schools.

Many of the kids on the DCC aren't even showing up for school routinely and you want to throw more good money after bad? No thanks.

ICE does regular sweeps at bus stops outside Wheaton HS. You’d skip school, too, if showing up put you at risk of being disappeared by a brute squad.

But the absenteeism predates this recent ICE surge.

Ok, so the question is why are these kids skipping and what can we do as a school system and community to support them. If they are struggling with the basics as they were failed in elementary school, it’s near impossible to be successful and many have given up.

A humanities magnet and MVC.

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Anonymous wrote:What I’m hearing, and it could be wrong, is that MCPS wants to give high performing kids stuck in underperforming kids a way to have their needs met through programs. But because MCPS didn’t actually ask anyone, they assumed wrong and these families just want their needs adequately met at the schools they chose for themselves (their home schools). High performing kids at well resourced schools also don’t tend to feel the need for these programs a lot of the time, so adding more of them is probably pretty unnecessary. Maybe they could slowly add a few more countywide ones to increase seats incrementally and so travel is not as long. Are we all in agreement?

Exactly! This was once done for Poolsville SMCS in a slow and corporative pace. Blair SMCS teachers and coordinators helped a lot in the first few years in building another strong program to benefit upper county high performers without sacrificing others' priorities. This round SMCS alumni foundation and coordinator tried to offer help and suggestions, and were shut the door from the beginning.

The regional model is going to drain every HS' existing resource to build a bunch of watered-down low quality programs that no one would be interested in.

Couldn't they just do this again by putting a 3rd SMCS magnet at Woodward and then divide the county into 3rds instead of 6 regions?

Am I missing some reason this wouldn't be a far more manageable project with a higher chance of success than their plan?

You are under the false impression that this is just about SMCS, and it is not. It is about addressing several things at once.
-Access to programs which they continually get complaints about do to limited seats and distance
-Ensure programs and courses to align with Maryland Career and College standards for completion that are being pushed by MSDE
- Coming up with a plan to reduce transportation cost
- Dealing with the inequity of the DCC/NEC

The DCC has inequity? Gasp!

The DCC itself is an inequity because there are not consortium all across the county.

Many DCC families would be good without the consortium if the DCC schools had the same opportunities as the W schools.

Many of the kids on the DCC aren't even showing up for school routinely and you want to throw more good money after bad? No thanks.

ICE does regular sweeps at bus stops outside Wheaton HS. You’d skip school, too, if showing up put you at risk of being disappeared by a brute squad.

But the absenteeism predates this recent ICE surge.

Ok, so the question is why are these kids skipping and what can we do as a school system and community to support them. If they are struggling with the basics as they were failed in elementary school, it’s near impossible to be successful and many have given up.

A humanities magnet and MVC.

That was sarcasm, right? Right?

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Anonymous wrote:What I’m hearing, and it could be wrong, is that MCPS wants to give high performing kids stuck in underperforming kids a way to have their needs met through programs. But because MCPS didn’t actually ask anyone, they assumed wrong and these families just want their needs adequately met at the schools they chose for themselves (their home schools). High performing kids at well resourced schools also don’t tend to feel the need for these programs a lot of the time, so adding more of them is probably pretty unnecessary. Maybe they could slowly add a few more countywide ones to increase seats incrementally and so travel is not as long. Are we all in agreement?

Exactly! This was once done for Poolsville SMCS in a slow and corporative pace. Blair SMCS teachers and coordinators helped a lot in the first few years in building another strong program to benefit upper county high performers without sacrificing others' priorities. This round SMCS alumni foundation and coordinator tried to offer help and suggestions, and were shut the door from the beginning.

The regional model is going to drain every HS' existing resource to build a bunch of watered-down low quality programs that no one would be interested in.

Couldn't they just do this again by putting a 3rd SMCS magnet at Woodward and then divide the county into 3rds instead of 6 regions?

Am I missing some reason this wouldn't be a far more manageable project with a higher chance of success than their plan?

You are under the false impression that this is just about SMCS, and it is not. It is about addressing several things at once.
-Access to programs which they continually get complaints about do to limited seats and distance
-Ensure programs and courses to align with Maryland Career and College standards for completion that are being pushed by MSDE
- Coming up with a plan to reduce transportation cost
- Dealing with the inequity of the DCC/NEC

The DCC has inequity? Gasp!

The DCC itself is an inequity because there are not consortium all across the county.

Many DCC families would be good without the consortium if the DCC schools had the same opportunities as the W schools.

Many of the kids on the DCC aren't even showing up for school routinely and you want to throw more good money after bad? No thanks.

ICE does regular sweeps at bus stops outside Wheaton HS. You’d skip school, too, if showing up put you at risk of being disappeared by a brute squad.

But the absenteeism predates this recent ICE surge.

Ok, so the question is why are these kids skipping and what can we do as a school system and community to support them. If they are struggling with the basics as they were failed in elementary school, it’s near impossible to be successful and many have given up.

Something something lead a horse to water, but... I feel bad for these kids but we shouldn't be sacrificing the rest of the school system to drag them kicking and screaming to school when they don't want to or can't be there.

[Anonymous]

I hope this whole thing gets postponed by a few years.

[Anonymous]

I'm really curious who is the real boss behind this entire massive BS?
Taylor? -- it's an expansion of the sh*t he did to his previous district.

Essie McGuire? -- She seems to be the central office lead on pushing the agenda and shutting their ears

Moran? - Someone mentioned him on DCUM to be the real boss behind everything, but I don't know or familiar with thing he did.

BOE? - Are those ladies really thus powerful? What's the benefit to them if this BS gets through? I don't see any obvious benefits to them...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What I’m hearing, and it could be wrong, is that MCPS wants to give high performing kids stuck in underperforming kids a way to have their needs met through programs. But because MCPS didn’t actually ask anyone, they assumed wrong and these families just want their needs adequately met at the schools they chose for themselves (their home schools). High performing kids at well resourced schools also don’t tend to feel the need for these programs a lot of the time, so adding more of them is probably pretty unnecessary. Maybe they could slowly add a few more countywide ones to increase seats incrementally and so travel is not as long. Are we all in agreement?

Exactly! This was once done for Poolsville SMCS in a slow and corporative pace. Blair SMCS teachers and coordinators helped a lot in the first few years in building another strong program to benefit upper county high performers without sacrificing others' priorities. This round SMCS alumni foundation and coordinator tried to offer help and suggestions, and were shut the door from the beginning.

The regional model is going to drain every HS' existing resource to build a bunch of watered-down low quality programs that no one would be interested in.

Couldn't they just do this again by putting a 3rd SMCS magnet at Woodward and then divide the county into 3rds instead of 6 regions?

Am I missing some reason this wouldn't be a far more manageable project with a higher chance of success than their plan?

You are under the false impression that this is just about SMCS, and it is not. It is about addressing several things at once.
-Access to programs which they continually get complaints about do to limited seats and distance
-Ensure programs and courses to align with Maryland Career and College standards for completion that are being pushed by MSDE
- Coming up with a plan to reduce transportation cost
- Dealing with the inequity of the DCC/NEC

The DCC has inequity? Gasp!

The DCC itself is an inequity because there are not consortium all across the county.

Many DCC families would be good without the consortium if the DCC schools had the same opportunities as the W schools.

Many of the kids on the DCC aren't even showing up for school routinely and you want to throw more good money after bad? No thanks.

ICE does regular sweeps at bus stops outside Wheaton HS. You’d skip school, too, if showing up put you at risk of being disappeared by a brute squad.

But the absenteeism predates this recent ICE surge.

But post-dates COVID, which is not over. "In the 12 months of follow-up, compared with participants who had a negative test for COVID-19, people with COVID-19 who did not require admission to hospital during the acute phase of infection had increased test positivity rates for bacterial infections (in blood, urine, and respiratory cultures) and viral diseases (including Epstein–Barr virus, herpes simplex virus reactivation, and respiratory viral infections)."

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(24)00831-4/abstract

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Anonymous wrote:I'm really curious who is the real boss behind this entire massive BS?
Taylor? -- it's an expansion of the sh*t he did to his previous district.

Essie McGuire? -- She seems to be the central office lead on pushing the agenda and shutting their ears

Moran? - Someone mentioned him on DCUM to be the real boss behind everything, but I don't know or familiar with thing he did.

BOE? - Are those ladies really thus powerful? What's the benefit to them if this BS gets through? I don't see any obvious benefits to them...

Definitely not the Board of Ed driving the bus.

I am curious about this too. One other candidate I would add to the list is Niki Porter (formerly Hazel.)

The simplest answer is that Taylor wants this and everyone below is following his lead. But I don't know whether that's true or not.