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Anonymous wrote:Chicago has EDO to continue to improve its yield numbers and to maximize full-freight students. Chicago is in debt to the tune of $6B as reported in mid 2025.

Without ED0-ED3 (deferral) practice to hold the yield rate, without TO inflated stats, would UC be able to hold on to T20? I doubt it.

The median SAT/ACT scores are 1540/35. Although it’s test optional, over 75 percent submit test scores. That’s in line, if not better, than most Top10 schools.
Maybe that answers your question.

Having 25% of the student body not submitting scores is not something one should be particularly proud of.
But I see that the standard you hold is low.

Without inflated yield rate and inflated stats, UC is at the same level as UVA.

You are entitled to your (uninformed) opinion, but please do not spread misinformation.

The median SAT/ACT scores for UVA are 1470/33, with less than 60 percent submitting test scores.

As another reference, the corresponding stats for Yale are 1530/34, with about 85 percent of students submitting scores.

(All data come from the 2024/25 common data sets)

The Yale non-submitters are high caliber kids such as international award winners, olympiads, and musicians and artists of great talent.

Chicago doesn’t get these talent. The test optional crowd at Chicago are private feeder kids. This is an invalid comparison.

You have no idea who the Yale (or UChicago) non-submitters are. Numbers don’t lie. I hope you at least realize how ridiculous the UVA comparison is.

[Anonymous]

Do any other top 25 schools offer ED0?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do any other top 25 schools offer ED0?

No

[Anonymous]

Yes, UChicago.

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Anonymous wrote:Chicago has EDO to continue to improve its yield numbers and to maximize full-freight students. Chicago is in debt to the tune of $6B as reported in mid 2025.

Without ED0-ED3 (deferral) practice to hold the yield rate, without TO inflated stats, would UC be able to hold on to T20? I doubt it.

The median SAT/ACT scores are 1540/35. Although it’s test optional, over 75 percent submit test scores. That’s in line, if not better, than most Top10 schools.
Maybe that answers your question.

Having 25% of the student body not submitting scores is not something one should be particularly proud of.
But I see that the standard you hold is low.

Without inflated yield rate and inflated stats, UC is at the same level as UVA.

You are entitled to your (uninformed) opinion, but please do not spread misinformation.

The median SAT/ACT scores for UVA are 1470/33, with less than 60 percent submitting test scores.

As another reference, the corresponding stats for Yale are 1530/34, with about 85 percent of students submitting scores.

(All data come from the 2024/25 common data sets)

The Yale non-submitters are high caliber kids such as international award winners, olympiads, and musicians and artists of great talent.

Chicago doesn’t get these talent. The test optional crowd at Chicago are private feeder kids. This is an invalid comparison.

Yale requires test scores, so there are no non submitters. They do allow flexibility in the types of scores submitted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The one week on campus program costs $2,500. Your child gets not only the program, but overall exposure to college life and the a chance to see if the school is their first choice. Plus, the summer session financial aide for high school students is *incredibly* generious. Incomes under $65K pay nothing + all travel expenses are fully covered. For incomes under $120K, everything except travel expenses are covered.

Seems to me like a great model and I wish more schools would do this. Try out the campus, see how you like it AND the school get to see how you are in a classroom and as a member of the dorm community. If you love it and are sure its your #1 choice, then you can apply ED0 and get a decision with plenty of time to apply to other schools if the decision is not what you were hoping for.

Agree. That’s what my kid did this summer. Had a blast during the one-week enrichment program, which confirmed UChicago as top choice.

NMSF, 4.0uw, 1550 SAT, top 10 percent of class, strong ECs, great essays. Done and happy.

Your kid had no interest in shooting for any of HYPSM or Duke or any other top school?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The one week on campus program costs $2,500. Your child gets not only the program, but overall exposure to college life and the a chance to see if the school is their first choice. Plus, the summer session financial aide for high school students is *incredibly* generious. Incomes under $65K pay nothing + all travel expenses are fully covered. For incomes under $120K, everything except travel expenses are covered.

Seems to me like a great model and I wish more schools would do this. Try out the campus, see how you like it AND the school get to see how you are in a classroom and as a member of the dorm community. If you love it and are sure its your #1 choice, then you can apply ED0 and get a decision with plenty of time to apply to other schools if the decision is not what you were hoping for.

Agree. That’s what my kid did this summer. Had a blast during the one-week enrichment program, which confirmed UChicago as top choice.

NMSF, 4.0uw, 1550 SAT, top 10 percent of class, strong ECs, great essays. Done and happy.

Your kid had no interest in shooting for any of HYPSM or Duke or any other top school?

DP But my kid also did a summer program at Chicago. They did a longer online course (required an application with recommendation letters, writing samples, and transcript) that was taught by a current UChicago professor and absolutely loved it. Chicago was a frontrunner school and the experience that summer confirmed it. I'm not sure why so many people on DCUM can't fathom how or why Chicago is a high stat student's top pick.

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Anonymous wrote:If more and more colleges adopt this predatory practice, kids will choose summer programs over more meaningful summer opportunities such as internship, research, pt jobs, and passion projects. Truly a shitshow.

And it’s totally for rich kids. 6k-8k for one week or two weeks,

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If more and more colleges adopt this predatory practice, kids will choose summer programs over more meaningful summer opportunities such as internship, research, pt jobs, and passion projects. Truly a shitshow.

And it’s totally for rich kids. 6k-8k for one week or two weeks,

The one week enrichment programs actually used to be free up until this year. They now cost 2500 but they give lots of financial aid to those kids who can't afford it

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Chicago has EDO to continue to improve its yield numbers and to maximize full-freight students. Chicago is in debt to the tune of $6B as reported in mid 2025.

Without ED0-ED3 (deferral) practice to hold the yield rate, without TO inflated stats, would UC be able to hold on to T20? I doubt it.

Uchicago has been ranked as t10 for at least last decade, maybe longer. I attended there as a student 30 years ago and it was T15 back then

[Anonymous]

Uchicago ed0 is a great entry strategy for the right kid. If the school is a good fit for your kid, one and done, with results received before ed1 application deadline is a true gift. The kids I know who did it this cycle were somewhat smart private school kids, kind of nerdy, and less social/engaged kids. They were never ivy-bound.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Chicago has EDO to continue to improve its yield numbers and to maximize full-freight students. Chicago is in debt to the tune of $6B as reported in mid 2025.

Without ED0-ED3 (deferral) practice to hold the yield rate, without TO inflated stats, would UC be able to hold on to T20? I doubt it.

Uchicago has been ranked as t10 for at least last decade, maybe longer. I attended there as a student 30 years ago and it was T15 back then

They game the rankings more than any other T10 school. They should be in the T20 but just below HYPSM seems inflated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Uchicago ed0 is a great entry strategy for the right kid. If the school is a good fit for your kid, one and done, with results received before ed1 application deadline is a true gift. The kids I know who did it this cycle were somewhat smart private school kids, kind of nerdy, and less social/engaged kids. They were never ivy-bound.

I noticed the same. Not the type of kids who would interview well for Ivy schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Chicago has EDO to continue to improve its yield numbers and to maximize full-freight students. Chicago is in debt to the tune of $6B as reported in mid 2025.

Without ED0-ED3 (deferral) practice to hold the yield rate, without TO inflated stats, would UC be able to hold on to T20? I doubt it.

Uchicago has been ranked as t10 for at least last decade, maybe longer. I attended there as a student 30 years ago and it was T15 back then

They game the rankings more than any other T10 school. They should be in the T20 but just below HYPSM seems inflated.

That’s why their AOs are paid one million.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Chicago has EDO to continue to improve its yield numbers and to maximize full-freight students. Chicago is in debt to the tune of $6B as reported in mid 2025.

Without ED0-ED3 (deferral) practice to hold the yield rate, without TO inflated stats, would UC be able to hold on to T20? I doubt it.

Uchicago has been ranked as t10 for at least last decade, maybe longer. I attended there as a student 30 years ago and it was T15 back then

They game the rankings more than any other T10 school. They should be in the T20 but just below HYPSM seems inflated.

That’s why their AOs are paid one million.

Admissions officers at Uchicago are paid $50,000/year.