which club will leave ECNL next

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Anonymous wrote:And then you get all the ECNL people that say MLS Acadamies still recruit from ECNL. Sure, that's true but not at the same scale as MLSN clubs. If your plan is to play in a league to get recruited in MLSN why not just play in MLSN from the beginning?

These are the reasons ECNL is having a difficult time on the boys side. If NWSL copied MLS aligning with GA to create Acadamies girls would be exactly the same.

Are there a significant number of girls who would choose NWSL over college? My experience is that for girls college is the goal.

Yea. You should use your Google machine.

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Anonymous wrote:My prediction is Nationals, GAL club of the year last year, will leave ECNL next

Definitely a club that would do will with both MLSN and GA. Im sure if both were offered they'd jump at thr opportunity.

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Anonymous wrote:My prediction is Nationals, GAL club of the year last year, will leave ECNL next

Definitely a club that would do will with both MLSN and GA. Im sure if both were offered they'd jump at thr opportunity.

It was a joke

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Anonymous wrote:My prediction is Nationals, GAL club of the year last year, will leave ECNL next

Definitely a club that would do will with both MLSN and GA. Im sure if both were offered they'd jump at thr opportunity.

It was a joke

Doesn't change the fact that Nationals likely want MLSN and with precious experience with GA transitioning back wouldn't be an issue. When they made the switch to ECNL MLSN+GA wasnt a package deal.

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Anonymous wrote:Holy Christ. I'm so happy that my DD is a rising junior and won't have to deal with all of this BS moving forward.

I realize that many get their rocks off with the speculation of what club is leaving next, in the grad scheme of things, does it really matter?

Maybe if you have girls or boys that are in their younger tween years, yeah, it could matter. But, I really think that if you have quality as a player, you will get seen and end up where you belong.

Good luck.

I think the ECNL continues to target a wealthier, college focused demographic and MLSN focuses on the pro pathway. Incentives drive the outcomes. ECNL will push to send kids to college programs and MLS will attempt to develop players that can be sold.

That said, ECNL teams play MLSN teams several times a year in tourneys and friendlies and both academy scouts and college scouts are at both league events. If the kid is good, they will be seen. Find the club that fits your child best and do not worry so much about acronyms.

MLSN isnt just for playing pro.

Players work their butt off to play professionally but sometimes it doesn't work out. In this situation playing in college is the fallback. Just like how D1 coaches love foreign Academy washouts. They also love MLSN Academy players.

So dont think that MLSN is only for playing professionally. Its both pro and college. ECNL on the other hand is college only. See why MLSN is appealing? If you can make it to the top levels multiple doors are open for you. As a college coach who would you choose? A player that played and practiced with MLS pro players. Or one that played at a club level only?

"As a college coach who would you choose?" The smarter one that can get into college and didn't waste too much time missing school for cross country events.

You chose the smarter one that was able to keep up grades while traveling cross country to do MLSN events. You act like College soccer doesnt do travel during the season. Did you think College stops because of an away game.

Do you own stock in MLSN? It's just a random league that replaced another league and will be replaced by another league in the future.

MLSNext backed by professional soccer league MLS. No other football league in the states can say that. Please sit down.

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Anonymous wrote:Holy Christ. I'm so happy that my DD is a rising junior and won't have to deal with all of this BS moving forward.

I realize that many get their rocks off with the speculation of what club is leaving next, in the grad scheme of things, does it really matter?

Maybe if you have girls or boys that are in their younger tween years, yeah, it could matter. But, I really think that if you have quality as a player, you will get seen and end up where you belong.

Good luck.

I think the ECNL continues to target a wealthier, college focused demographic and MLSN focuses on the pro pathway. Incentives drive the outcomes. ECNL will push to send kids to college programs and MLS will attempt to develop players that can be sold.

That said, ECNL teams play MLSN teams several times a year in tourneys and friendlies and both academy scouts and college scouts are at both league events. If the kid is good, they will be seen. Find the club that fits your child best and do not worry so much about acronyms.

MLSN isnt just for playing pro.

Players work their butt off to play professionally but sometimes it doesn't work out. In this situation playing in college is the fallback. Just like how D1 coaches love foreign Academy washouts. They also love MLSN Academy players.

So dont think that MLSN is only for playing professionally. Its both pro and college. ECNL on the other hand is college only. See why MLSN is appealing? If you can make it to the top levels multiple doors are open for you. As a college coach who would you choose? A player that played and practiced with MLS pro players. Or one that played at a club level only?

"As a college coach who would you choose?" The smarter one that can get into college and didn't waste too much time missing school for cross country events.

You chose the smarter one that was able to keep up grades while traveling cross country to do MLSN events. You act like College soccer doesnt do travel during the season. Did you think College stops because of an away game.

Do you own stock in MLSN? It's just a random league that replaced another league and will be replaced by another league in the future.

MLSNext backed by professional soccer league MLS. No other football league in the states can say that. Please sit down.

The MLS clubs are backed. Your youth club isn’t. They don’t care about you.

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Anonymous wrote:Holy Christ. I'm so happy that my DD is a rising junior and won't have to deal with all of this BS moving forward.

I realize that many get their rocks off with the speculation of what club is leaving next, in the grad scheme of things, does it really matter?

Maybe if you have girls or boys that are in their younger tween years, yeah, it could matter. But, I really think that if you have quality as a player, you will get seen and end up where you belong.

Good luck.

I think the ECNL continues to target a wealthier, college focused demographic and MLSN focuses on the pro pathway. Incentives drive the outcomes. ECNL will push to send kids to college programs and MLS will attempt to develop players that can be sold.

That said, ECNL teams play MLSN teams several times a year in tourneys and friendlies and both academy scouts and college scouts are at both league events. If the kid is good, they will be seen. Find the club that fits your child best and do not worry so much about acronyms.

MLSN isnt just for playing pro.

Players work their butt off to play professionally but sometimes it doesn't work out. In this situation playing in college is the fallback. Just like how D1 coaches love foreign Academy washouts. They also love MLSN Academy players.

So dont think that MLSN is only for playing professionally. Its both pro and college. ECNL on the other hand is college only. See why MLSN is appealing? If you can make it to the top levels multiple doors are open for you. As a college coach who would you choose? A player that played and practiced with MLS pro players. Or one that played at a club level only?

"As a college coach who would you choose?" The smarter one that can get into college and didn't waste too much time missing school for cross country events.

You chose the smarter one that was able to keep up grades while traveling cross country to do MLSN events. You act like College soccer doesnt do travel during the season. Did you think College stops because of an away game.

Do you own stock in MLSN? It's just a random league that replaced another league and will be replaced by another league in the future.

Sorry your kid did not make team.

Arlington just seems like a better program than Achilles and as someone else showed awhile ago, college placements on the boys side from ECNL and MLSN pay to play were similar.

Crazy to be stumping for a team, crazier to be stumping for a club, craziest to be stumping for a league.

Not sure how Achilles got lumped in but I’ll bite. Achilles is a boutique club that’s a fraction of the size and budget of Arlington. They have a player on USMNT U16 and a U16 starting on a Bundesliga academy team. Can Arlington, with far greater numbers and massive budget, say the same?

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Anonymous wrote:What about GFR? They are not going to stay without a pathway past this year. The question is whether they go ECNL or GA.

Who would they team up with?

Do they need to team up with anyone for GA?

For next year? Yes, their older girls teams are all falling apart. 2007-2010 are weak and likely won't be top 5 RL teams even just in VA North.

Teams are falling apart because they don’t have ECNL or GA so the top girls leave since RL is getting so weak. If they went GA those girls would stay.

Right, but for now, they'd have to team up with someone to get GA. They aren't strong enough on their own so it would take a while to build up without a merger of some sort.

Nobody is teaming up with GFR. There is no team out there - that is in need of partners - that would interest either GA or ECNL.

McLean would team up with them in a heartbeat. The older teams for McLean are weaker and the super 2013 team just left for FVU. McLean is in need of a boost.

McLean learned their lesson from partnering with SYC…and then again with BRAVE (not their choice). If they end up being forced to, they will, but there is no chance they actually want to.

Mclean family here, from everything we have heard I can't see them doing anything with anybody for a while. They just spent the last three years in bad situations. I also want to publicly commend the club for bring extremely classy with the 2013s, they allowed the coach (CW) to remain and finish the season even though they knew he was going to FVU and influencing the players who all had MYS GA offers to go to FVU. Other clubs would have fired the coach and enticed the players to stay. They put the players first and told them they would always be Mclean kids no matter what.

Harkes has said that if a player outgrows MYS, let them leave and keep developing rather than worry about wins and losses for the team or club. That's what player development means. I will take off my Mclean hat now.

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Very classy to kick FVU off their fields mid year.

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Anonymous wrote:Holy Christ. I'm so happy that my DD is a rising junior and won't have to deal with all of this BS moving forward.

I realize that many get their rocks off with the speculation of what club is leaving next, in the grad scheme of things, does it really matter?

Maybe if you have girls or boys that are in their younger tween years, yeah, it could matter. But, I really think that if you have quality as a player, you will get seen and end up where you belong.

Good luck.

I think the ECNL continues to target a wealthier, college focused demographic and MLSN focuses on the pro pathway. Incentives drive the outcomes. ECNL will push to send kids to college programs and MLS will attempt to develop players that can be sold.

That said, ECNL teams play MLSN teams several times a year in tourneys and friendlies and both academy scouts and college scouts are at both league events. If the kid is good, they will be seen. Find the club that fits your child best and do not worry so much about acronyms.

MLSN isnt just for playing pro.

Players work their butt off to play professionally but sometimes it doesn't work out. In this situation playing in college is the fallback. Just like how D1 coaches love foreign Academy washouts. They also love MLSN Academy players.

So dont think that MLSN is only for playing professionally. Its both pro and college. ECNL on the other hand is college only. See why MLSN is appealing? If you can make it to the top levels multiple doors are open for you. As a college coach who would you choose? A player that played and practiced with MLS pro players. Or one that played at a club level only?

"As a college coach who would you choose?" The smarter one that can get into college and didn't waste too much time missing school for cross country events.

You chose the smarter one that was able to keep up grades while traveling cross country to do MLSN events. You act like College soccer doesnt do travel during the season. Did you think College stops because of an away game.

Do you own stock in MLSN? It's just a random league that replaced another league and will be replaced by another league in the future.

Sorry your kid did not make team.

Arlington just seems like a better program than Achilles and as someone else showed awhile ago, college placements on the boys side from ECNL and MLSN pay to play were similar.

Crazy to be stumping for a team, crazier to be stumping for a club, craziest to be stumping for a league.

Not sure how Achilles got lumped in but I’ll bite. Achilles is a boutique club that’s a fraction of the size and budget of Arlington. They have a player on USMNT U16 and a U16 starting on a Bundesliga academy team. Can Arlington, with far greater numbers and massive budget, say the same?

No Arlington can not

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Anonymous wrote:Holy Christ. I'm so happy that my DD is a rising junior and won't have to deal with all of this BS moving forward.

I realize that many get their rocks off with the speculation of what club is leaving next, in the grad scheme of things, does it really matter?

Maybe if you have girls or boys that are in their younger tween years, yeah, it could matter. But, I really think that if you have quality as a player, you will get seen and end up where you belong.

Good luck.

I think the ECNL continues to target a wealthier, college focused demographic and MLSN focuses on the pro pathway. Incentives drive the outcomes. ECNL will push to send kids to college programs and MLS will attempt to develop players that can be sold.

That said, ECNL teams play MLSN teams several times a year in tourneys and friendlies and both academy scouts and college scouts are at both league events. If the kid is good, they will be seen. Find the club that fits your child best and do not worry so much about acronyms.

MLSN isnt just for playing pro.

Players work their butt off to play professionally but sometimes it doesn't work out. In this situation playing in college is the fallback. Just like how D1 coaches love foreign Academy washouts. They also love MLSN Academy players.

So dont think that MLSN is only for playing professionally. Its both pro and college. ECNL on the other hand is college only. See why MLSN is appealing? If you can make it to the top levels multiple doors are open for you. As a college coach who would you choose? A player that played and practiced with MLS pro players. Or one that played at a club level only?

"As a college coach who would you choose?" The smarter one that can get into college and didn't waste too much time missing school for cross country events.

You chose the smarter one that was able to keep up grades while traveling cross country to do MLSN events. You act like College soccer doesnt do travel during the season. Did you think College stops because of an away game.

Do you own stock in MLSN? It's just a random league that replaced another league and will be replaced by another league in the future.

Sorry your kid did not make team.

Arlington just seems like a better program than Achilles and as someone else showed awhile ago, college placements on the boys side from ECNL and MLSN pay to play were similar.

Crazy to be stumping for a team, crazier to be stumping for a club, craziest to be stumping for a league.

Not sure how Achilles got lumped in but I’ll bite. Achilles is a boutique club that’s a fraction of the size and budget of Arlington. They have a player on USMNT U16 and a U16 starting on a Bundesliga academy team. Can Arlington, with far greater numbers and massive budget, say the same?

Case stuffs are useless for proper analysis. Do you have a numbers?

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Anonymous wrote:Holy Christ. I'm so happy that my DD is a rising junior and won't have to deal with all of this BS moving forward.

I realize that many get their rocks off with the speculation of what club is leaving next, in the grad scheme of things, does it really matter?

Maybe if you have girls or boys that are in their younger tween years, yeah, it could matter. But, I really think that if you have quality as a player, you will get seen and end up where you belong.

Good luck.

I think the ECNL continues to target a wealthier, college focused demographic and MLSN focuses on the pro pathway. Incentives drive the outcomes. ECNL will push to send kids to college programs and MLS will attempt to develop players that can be sold.

That said, ECNL teams play MLSN teams several times a year in tourneys and friendlies and both academy scouts and college scouts are at both league events. If the kid is good, they will be seen. Find the club that fits your child best and do not worry so much about acronyms.

Also, MLS academies pluck 3 or 4 players from our ECNL club every year. I'm not sure it really matters which league you play in. If you are good enough, they will find you.
MLSN isnt just for playing pro.

Players work their butt off to play professionally but sometimes it doesn't work out. In this situation playing in college is the fallback. Just like how D1 coaches love foreign Academy washouts. They also love MLSN Academy players.

So dont think that MLSN is only for playing professionally. Its both pro and college. ECNL on the other hand is college only. See why MLSN is appealing? If you can make it to the top levels multiple doors are open for you. As a college coach who would you choose? A player that played and practiced with MLS pro players. Or one that played at a club level only?

"As a college coach who would you choose?" The smarter one that can get into college and didn't waste too much time missing school for cross country events.

You chose the smarter one that was able to keep up grades while traveling cross country to do MLSN events. You act like College soccer doesnt do travel during the season. Did you think College stops because of an away game.

Do you own stock in MLSN? It's just a random league that replaced another league and will be replaced by another league in the future.

MLSNext backed by professional soccer league MLS. No other football league in the states can say that. Please sit down.

The MLS clubs are backed. Your youth club isn’t. They don’t care about you.

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MLS academies pluck three or four players from our ECNL club every year. Usually in the U13-15 range. Not sure playing in MLS Next is much better. If you are good enough, they will find you.

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Anonymous wrote:And then you get all the ECNL people that say MLS Acadamies still recruit from ECNL. Sure, that's true but not at the same scale as MLSN clubs. If your plan is to play in a league to get recruited in MLSN why not just play in MLSN from the beginning?

These are the reasons ECNL is having a difficult time on the boys side. If NWSL copied MLS aligning with GA to create Acadamies girls would be exactly the same.

Are there a significant number of girls who would choose NWSL over college? My experience is that for girls college is the goal.

Yea. You should use your Google machine.

Yeah ok. Let's forgo an opportunity to go to a top tier college to try for a limited spot in the NWSL at $50K/year. Shooting for MLS instead of college is probably a bad idea too. I get chasing a dream but for most this would be the wrong decision. Most posters here must be members of the youth soccer industrial complex.

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Anonymous wrote:And then you get all the ECNL people that say MLS Acadamies still recruit from ECNL. Sure, that's true but not at the same scale as MLSN clubs. If your plan is to play in a league to get recruited in MLSN why not just play in MLSN from the beginning?

These are the reasons ECNL is having a difficult time on the boys side. If NWSL copied MLS aligning with GA to create Acadamies girls would be exactly the same.

Are there a significant number of girls who would choose NWSL over college? My experience is that for girls college is the goal.

Yea. You should use your Google machine.

Yeah ok. Let's forgo an opportunity to go to a top tier college to try for a limited spot in the NWSL at $50K/year. Shooting for MLS instead of college is probably a bad idea too. I get chasing a dream but for most this would be the wrong decision. Most posters here must be members of the youth soccer industrial complex.

MLS pro contracts include the cost of college priced in. This is how they take playing in college out of the equation for top talent. Making it so players would lose money going to college.