As a Jew, I’m terrified

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Anonymous wrote:At some point, the consequences for the decisions of Israel are coming. Unfortunately for Jews, you will be exposed to the consequences for decisions you never made. Guess what? So will a lot of other people.

This is why the US should stop insulating Israel from the consequences of their decisions.


If left unchecked, Iran’s decades long investment in multiple terror groups around the world Hell bent on “death to America! Death to the West!” would have prompted the US and others to take action…likely following a major terror attack or based on troubling intel. It’s easy to blame Israel but it’s really not fair. I mean, where’s the rational thinking when it comes to assessing the threat posed by Iran? Forget WMD; simply evaluate them based on the bankrolling of multiple terror groups.

If Israel falls, why would you believe Iran or any of their terror groups in Gaza or Lebanon or Syria or elsewhere would stop there?

With the porous borders in the US and Europe over the last decade, why would anyone assume any terror threat is limited to Israel?


Spare me the future risk assessment that is 90% propaganda. I’ve heard this story before.


Agree. We have been feed this line for 40 years and it has never happened. The worse part is that ordinary Americans will pay the price when it's trump and his warmongers who should pay.


“It” has never happened because the US and the Israelis keep doing the dirty work of halting Iranian nuclear weapons development activities.
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Anonymous wrote:For the record I don’t agree with any of this — not what Israel is doing in Gaza and certainly not what’s happening in Iran. But, I fear how much I and all other American Jews are going to face even more antisemitism and retribution because of today’s actions. And I’m terrified.


Something tells me that you will be fine. Imagine being a Muslim in these United States right now. Now that group will face even more Islamophobia and harassment. It’s not all about you OP.


+1. This was my first thought when I read OP. It’s not all about you and you have the ability to make that clear by articulating you don’t support this. If more American Jews did this, it would impact the conversation.

But Muslims don’t have that luxury.


Muslims could speak up about Hamas and Iran. and it would have exactly the same influence on Islamophobia as speaking up about Gaza does on antisemitism. That is, zero.

We’ve been through this before. groups that are subject to animus have zero responsibility to declare themselves the “Good Ones” in order to be free from prejudice and hate crimes. It doesn’t work, and it’s not fair. This is exactly the same for antisemitism and Islamophobia and we learned this lesson after 9/11.


Muslims could also speak out against Islamic terror, the motivating force behind the ME terror regimes and groups. That would demonstrate that mainstream Muslims in the U.S. are cut from different cloth. But they don't say anything, why?


Should also be Jews responsible for speaking out against the genocide and ethnic cleansing Israel is committing?


That is literally what this thread is trying to do and the response has been “Jews make everything about themselves.” Because of antisemitism. That is a nakedly antisemitic viewpoint.

For some of you posters, breathing is antisemitism.


Please describe, in detail, why you think “Jews make everything about themselves” is not an antisemitic viewpoint. I’ll wait.


NP - ummm...you just proved their point. Saying "POC play the race card" is also NOT racist. I think AIPAC is corrupt. Is that anti-Semetic to you?

The definition of what is anti-Semitic has blurred just as the definition of racist has. It's why Trump won. I blame people like you for handing us Trump.



Conveniently, Trump also said last year that if he DIDN’T win, Jews would have to answer for that. What a lovely position we find ourselves in now, especially as a community that voted more heavily for Harris than almost any other demographic group.
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Anonymous wrote:Jewish people always make everything about them

It stems from the whole framing of any event thru the lens of “is it good/bad for the Jews”

https://archive.nytimes.com/opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/03/04/is-it-good-for-the-jews/


Seems reasonable for American Jews to worry that a war in the Middle East started by Israel might be bad for the Jews, though?

American Jews are funding aipac. AIPAC is in return buying us politicians who whore themselves out.
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It stems from the whole framing of any event thru the lens of “is it good/bad for the Jews”

https://archive.nytimes.com/opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/03/04/is-it-good-for-the-jews/


Seems reasonable for American Jews to worry that a war in the Middle East started by Israel might be bad for the Jews, though?

American Jews are funding aipac. AIPAC is in return buying us politicians who whore themselves out.


… so, you’re saying I should NOT worry that this war is bad for the Jews, who you accuse of buying politicians who whore themselves out to do Jews’ bidding? Seems like I am entirely correct to think it’s bad for the Jews, actually. I also think a Jewish presidential candidate would be bad for the Jews. Generally I’d prefer if the Jews took up less of everyone’s attention.
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Anonymous wrote:For the record I don’t agree with any of this — not what Israel is doing in Gaza and certainly not what’s happening in Iran. But, I fear how much I and all other American Jews are going to face even more antisemitism and retribution because of today’s actions. And I’m terrified.


Something tells me that you will be fine. Imagine being a Muslim in these United States right now. Now that group will face even more Islamophobia and harassment. It’s not all about you OP.


+1. This was my first thought when I read OP. It’s not all about you and you have the ability to make that clear by articulating you don’t support this. If more American Jews did this, it would impact the conversation.

But Muslims don’t have that luxury.


Muslims could speak up about Hamas and Iran. and it would have exactly the same influence on Islamophobia as speaking up about Gaza does on antisemitism. That is, zero.

We’ve been through this before. groups that are subject to animus have zero responsibility to declare themselves the “Good Ones” in order to be free from prejudice and hate crimes. It doesn’t work, and it’s not fair. This is exactly the same for antisemitism and Islamophobia and we learned this lesson after 9/11.


Muslims could also speak out against Islamic terror, the motivating force behind the ME terror regimes and groups. That would demonstrate that mainstream Muslims in the U.S. are cut from different cloth. But they don't say anything, why?


Should also be Jews responsible for speaking out against the genocide and ethnic cleansing Israel is committing?


That is literally what this thread is trying to do and the response has been “Jews make everything about themselves.” Because of antisemitism. That is a nakedly antisemitic viewpoint.

For some of you posters, breathing is antisemitism.


Please describe, in detail, why you think “Jews make everything about themselves” is not an antisemitic viewpoint. I’ll wait.


NP - ummm...you just proved their point. Saying "POC play the race card" is also NOT racist. I think AIPAC is corrupt. Is that anti-Semetic to you?

The definition of what is anti-Semitic has blurred just as the definition of racist has. It's why Trump won. I blame people like you for handing us Trump.



Conveniently, Trump also said last year that if he DIDN’T win, Jews would have to answer for that. What a lovely position we find ourselves in now, especially as a community that voted more heavily for Harris than almost any other demographic group.


Jews are going to be in even more of a “between a rock and a hard place” situation than last election as we go into 2028. Personally I can’t ever support the Republicans until they get over this MAGA nonsense and return more to the middle (the Jon McCain types, though in that election I voted for Obama) but you know the left is going to adopt even more of an antisemetic tone, especially if they run someone like AOC. I don’t know what I’ll do…
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Anonymous wrote:For the record I don’t agree with any of this — not what Israel is doing in Gaza and certainly not what’s happening in Iran. But, I fear how much I and all other American Jews are going to face even more antisemitism and retribution because of today’s actions. And I’m terrified.


Something tells me that you will be fine. Imagine being a Muslim in these United States right now. Now that group will face even more Islamophobia and harassment. It’s not all about you OP.


+1. This was my first thought when I read OP. It’s not all about you and you have the ability to make that clear by articulating you don’t support this. If more American Jews did this, it would impact the conversation.

But Muslims don’t have that luxury.


Muslims could speak up about Hamas and Iran. and it would have exactly the same influence on Islamophobia as speaking up about Gaza does on antisemitism. That is, zero.

We’ve been through this before. groups that are subject to animus have zero responsibility to declare themselves the “Good Ones” in order to be free from prejudice and hate crimes. It doesn’t work, and it’s not fair. This is exactly the same for antisemitism and Islamophobia and we learned this lesson after 9/11.


Muslims could also speak out against Islamic terror, the motivating force behind the ME terror regimes and groups. That would demonstrate that mainstream Muslims in the U.S. are cut from different cloth. But they don't say anything, why?


Should also be Jews responsible for speaking out against the genocide and ethnic cleansing Israel is committing?


That is literally what this thread is trying to do and the response has been “Jews make everything about themselves.” Because of antisemitism. That is a nakedly antisemitic viewpoint.

For some of you posters, breathing is antisemitism.


Please describe, in detail, why you think “Jews make everything about themselves” is not an antisemitic viewpoint. I’ll wait.


Israel attacks Iran. Jews immediately post about fear of antisemitism. They are the aggressor just like the US now but want to play the part of the victim. The person who said they use it as a get out of jail free card is onto the problem. Why don't you wait till something actually happens before you appeal to other's instincts to help you? Already most Americans are overwhelmed with the news that we are brought into this mess and most want out. We are too busy working to get our own government out of the conflict and deal with the people actually suffering physically to deal with your mental anguish. I don't have time for your fake victimhood saying that people are antisemitic because they don't agree with Israel or don't invite you to dinner anymore. Maybe they are being antisemitic but it's an appropriate response to the aggression. There are plenty of other groups that people display negativity towards. Anti-women, anti trans, anti gay, anti-white men, anti-blacks, anti-immigrant, anti-Palestinian. Unless there is an actual real threat to life I don't want to hear about it and am extremely upset we are now involved in yet another war placing the DC area in danger.
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Anonymous wrote:For the record I don’t agree with any of this — not what Israel is doing in Gaza and certainly not what’s happening in Iran. But, I fear how much I and all other American Jews are going to face even more antisemitism and retribution because of today’s actions. And I’m terrified.



Based on the values demonstrated in your stated views, I hope you don’t experience anything along the lines of what you fear because you don’t seem like part of the problem.


So Jews that support Israel deserve what, to be subjected to attacks here in the US?


DP they should at minimum be drafted in to the front line US units.


Only Jews, or also Christians who support Israel and support bombing Iran?

DP. I’m just glad that for now, it’s an all volunteer military. I pray it remains that way for my kids sake. Those who want to fight for the man with the billions, have at it. Just do enough job to keep that greedy, bullshat outside the continuous United States.


If you think our military is made up of true volunteers, and not folks manipulated through the economics of poverty, you're naive. Your children aren't being used for cannon fodder because they are most likely white and financially privileged. Try not to be so glib about the people who weren't so lucky, had to make different choices to say, pay for college, and who will now put their lives on the line for a bunch of old men playing at war.
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Anonymous wrote:For the record I don’t agree with any of this — not what Israel is doing in Gaza and certainly not what’s happening in Iran. But, I fear how much I and all other American Jews are going to face even more antisemitism and retribution because of today’s actions. And I’m terrified.


Something tells me that you will be fine. Imagine being a Muslim in these United States right now. Now that group will face even more Islamophobia and harassment. It’s not all about you OP.


+1. This was my first thought when I read OP. It’s not all about you and you have the ability to make that clear by articulating you don’t support this. If more American Jews did this, it would impact the conversation.

But Muslims don’t have that luxury.


Muslims could speak up about Hamas and Iran. and it would have exactly the same influence on Islamophobia as speaking up about Gaza does on antisemitism. That is, zero.

We’ve been through this before. groups that are subject to animus have zero responsibility to declare themselves the “Good Ones” in order to be free from prejudice and hate crimes. It doesn’t work, and it’s not fair. This is exactly the same for antisemitism and Islamophobia and we learned this lesson after 9/11.


Muslims could also speak out against Islamic terror, the motivating force behind the ME terror regimes and groups. That would demonstrate that mainstream Muslims in the U.S. are cut from different cloth. But they don't say anything, why?


Should also be Jews responsible for speaking out against the genocide and ethnic cleansing Israel is committing?


That is literally what this thread is trying to do and the response has been “Jews make everything about themselves.” Because of antisemitism. That is a nakedly antisemitic viewpoint.

For some of you posters, breathing is antisemitism.


Please describe, in detail, why you think “Jews make everything about themselves” is not an antisemitic viewpoint. I’ll wait.


Israel attacks Iran. Jews immediately post about fear of antisemitism. They are the aggressor just like the US now but want to play the part of the victim. The person who said they use it as a get out of jail free card is onto the problem. Why don't you wait till something actually happens before you appeal to other's instincts to help you? Already most Americans are overwhelmed with the news that we are brought into this mess and most want out. We are too busy working to get our own government out of the conflict and deal with the people actually suffering physically to deal with your mental anguish. I don't have time for your fake victimhood saying that people are antisemitic because they don't agree with Israel or don't invite you to dinner anymore. Maybe they are being antisemitic but it's an appropriate response to the aggression. There are plenty of other groups that people display negativity towards. Anti-women, anti trans, anti gay, anti-white men, anti-blacks, anti-immigrant, anti-Palestinian. Unless there is an actual real threat to life I don't want to hear about it and am extremely upset we are now involved in yet another war placing the DC area in danger.


Sorry, but Israel attacking Iran does not make American Jews the aggressor. And disliking American Jews is not an appropriate response to Israel’s actions. Disliking specific American Jews because they support Israel’s actions is one thing; declaring us all to be warmongers is another, and suggesting that we have a special responsibility to answer for another country’s policy is, too. Just because Netanyahu declares himself to be the king of the Jews doesn’t mean you need to agree with him.
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Anonymous wrote:For the record I don’t agree with any of this — not what Israel is doing in Gaza and certainly not what’s happening in Iran. But, I fear how much I and all other American Jews are going to face even more antisemitism and retribution because of today’s actions. And I’m terrified.


Something tells me that you will be fine. Imagine being a Muslim in these United States right now. Now that group will face even more Islamophobia and harassment. It’s not all about you OP.


+1. This was my first thought when I read OP. It’s not all about you and you have the ability to make that clear by articulating you don’t support this. If more American Jews did this, it would impact the conversation.

But Muslims don’t have that luxury.


Muslims could speak up about Hamas and Iran. and it would have exactly the same influence on Islamophobia as speaking up about Gaza does on antisemitism. That is, zero.

We’ve been through this before. groups that are subject to animus have zero responsibility to declare themselves the “Good Ones” in order to be free from prejudice and hate crimes. It doesn’t work, and it’s not fair. This is exactly the same for antisemitism and Islamophobia and we learned this lesson after 9/11.


Muslims could also speak out against Islamic terror, the motivating force behind the ME terror regimes and groups. That would demonstrate that mainstream Muslims in the U.S. are cut from different cloth. But they don't say anything, why?


Should also be Jews responsible for speaking out against the genocide and ethnic cleansing Israel is committing?


That is literally what this thread is trying to do and the response has been “Jews make everything about themselves.” Because of antisemitism. That is a nakedly antisemitic viewpoint.

For some of you posters, breathing is antisemitism.


Please describe, in detail, why you think “Jews make everything about themselves” is not an antisemitic viewpoint. I’ll wait.


Israel attacks Iran. Jews immediately post about fear of antisemitism. They are the aggressor just like the US now but want to play the part of the victim. The person who said they use it as a get out of jail free card is onto the problem. Why don't you wait till something actually happens before you appeal to other's instincts to help you? Already most Americans are overwhelmed with the news that we are brought into this mess and most want out. We are too busy working to get our own government out of the conflict and deal with the people actually suffering physically to deal with your mental anguish. I don't have time for your fake victimhood saying that people are antisemitic because they don't agree with Israel or don't invite you to dinner anymore. Maybe they are being antisemitic but it's an appropriate response to the aggression. There are plenty of other groups that people display negativity towards. Anti-women, anti trans, anti gay, anti-white men, anti-blacks, anti-immigrant, anti-Palestinian. Unless there is an actual real threat to life I don't want to hear about it and am extremely upset we are now involved in yet another war placing the DC area in danger.


The entire point is Jews who have nothing to do with any of this are getting blamed. You do know that Jews already face the majority of hate crimes, right? https://www.marketwatch.com/story/jewish-people-make-up-2-4-of-the-u-s-population-but-are-the-targets-of-about-60-of-hate-crimes-linked-to-religion-says-fbi-director-2dd86906
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Anonymous wrote:For the record I don’t agree with any of this — not what Israel is doing in Gaza and certainly not what’s happening in Iran. But, I fear how much I and all other American Jews are going to face even more antisemitism and retribution because of today’s actions. And I’m terrified.



Based on the values demonstrated in your stated views, I hope you don’t experience anything along the lines of what you fear because you don’t seem like part of the problem.


I’m in the same position as the OP you’re quoting here (though I’m not particularly terrified), but I’d note that I don’t think people who agree with what Israel or the U.S. is doing — or, for that matter, Palestinians who agree with but aren’t responsible for Hamas’s decisions — would deserve to experience any backlash for it, either.


Nope.

Not happening.

Anyone who supports Israel’s policies and actions, or remains silent on the matter, is a morally bankrupt human being and arguably evil.

I don’t give AF that there are other bad actors (e.g., Hamas, Palestinians who refuse to denounce Hamas, Iran leadership, Iranians who support Iran’s leadership, etc.) involved. Radical, extremist Zionists wherever they are - 3/4 of the Israeli population, fake Christian / evangelical weirdos / born again frauds, garden variety racists, American Jews who support Israel’s policies and actions, right wing drones who vote only along party lines, etc.) share in the blame pie.

But those who denounce Israel’s policies and actions? I hope they’re spared any consequences for bad events that they never supported anyway …
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Anonymous wrote:For the record I don’t agree with any of this — not what Israel is doing in Gaza and certainly not what’s happening in Iran. But, I fear how much I and all other American Jews are going to face even more antisemitism and retribution because of today’s actions. And I’m terrified.


Something tells me that you will be fine. Imagine being a Muslim in these United States right now. Now that group will face even more Islamophobia and harassment. It’s not all about you OP.


+1. This was my first thought when I read OP. It’s not all about you and you have the ability to make that clear by articulating you don’t support this. If more American Jews did this, it would impact the conversation.

But Muslims don’t have that luxury.


Muslims could speak up about Hamas and Iran. and it would have exactly the same influence on Islamophobia as speaking up about Gaza does on antisemitism. That is, zero.

We’ve been through this before. groups that are subject to animus have zero responsibility to declare themselves the “Good Ones” in order to be free from prejudice and hate crimes. It doesn’t work, and it’s not fair. This is exactly the same for antisemitism and Islamophobia and we learned this lesson after 9/11.


Muslims could also speak out against Islamic terror, the motivating force behind the ME terror regimes and groups. That would demonstrate that mainstream Muslims in the U.S. are cut from different cloth. But they don't say anything, why?


Should also be Jews responsible for speaking out against the genocide and ethnic cleansing Israel is committing?


That is literally what this thread is trying to do and the response has been “Jews make everything about themselves.” Because of antisemitism. That is a nakedly antisemitic viewpoint.

For some of you posters, breathing is antisemitism.


Please describe, in detail, why you think “Jews make everything about themselves” is not an antisemitic viewpoint. I’ll wait.


Because the second someone used the same argument articulated by OP from a Muslim viewpoint, you pushed back. You reframe every discussion that relating to Jews about antisemitism but do not apply the same reframing to other groups.
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Anonymous wrote:For the record I don’t agree with any of this — not what Israel is doing in Gaza and certainly not what’s happening in Iran. But, I fear how much I and all other American Jews are going to face even more antisemitism and retribution because of today’s actions. And I’m terrified.


Something tells me that you will be fine. Imagine being a Muslim in these United States right now. Now that group will face even more Islamophobia and harassment. It’s not all about you OP.


+1. This was my first thought when I read OP. It’s not all about you and you have the ability to make that clear by articulating you don’t support this. If more American Jews did this, it would impact the conversation.

But Muslims don’t have that luxury.


Muslims could speak up about Hamas and Iran. and it would have exactly the same influence on Islamophobia as speaking up about Gaza does on antisemitism. That is, zero.

We’ve been through this before. groups that are subject to animus have zero responsibility to declare themselves the “Good Ones” in order to be free from prejudice and hate crimes. It doesn’t work, and it’s not fair. This is exactly the same for antisemitism and Islamophobia and we learned this lesson after 9/11.


Muslims could also speak out against Islamic terror, the motivating force behind the ME terror regimes and groups. That would demonstrate that mainstream Muslims in the U.S. are cut from different cloth. But they don't say anything, why?


Should also be Jews responsible for speaking out against the genocide and ethnic cleansing Israel is committing?


That is literally what this thread is trying to do and the response has been “Jews make everything about themselves.” Because of antisemitism. That is a nakedly antisemitic viewpoint.

For some of you posters, breathing is antisemitism.


Please describe, in detail, why you think “Jews make everything about themselves” is not an antisemitic viewpoint. I’ll wait.


Israel attacks Iran. Jews immediately post about fear of antisemitism. They are the aggressor just like the US now but want to play the part of the victim. The person who said they use it as a get out of jail free card is onto the problem. Why don't you wait till something actually happens before you appeal to other's instincts to help you? Already most Americans are overwhelmed with the news that we are brought into this mess and most want out. We are too busy working to get our own government out of the conflict and deal with the people actually suffering physically to deal with your mental anguish. I don't have time for your fake victimhood saying that people are antisemitic because they don't agree with Israel or don't invite you to dinner anymore. Maybe they are being antisemitic but it's an appropriate response to the aggression. There are plenty of other groups that people display negativity towards. Anti-women, anti trans, anti gay, anti-white men, anti-blacks, anti-immigrant, anti-Palestinian. Unless there is an actual real threat to life I don't want to hear about it and am extremely upset we are now involved in yet another war placing the DC area in danger.


The D.C. area is not in danger, you’re being as melodramatic as you’re accusing OP of being.
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What I find interesting is that the Israeli issue divides both major parties. Biden (with mind in place) may very well have done the same thing. I don’t agree with what’s going on, but neither side can be trusted on Middle East issues. It is the closest thing to bipartisanship we have these days. It creates four groups D/R pro-Israel and D/R anti-Israel.
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Anonymous wrote:For the record I don’t agree with any of this — not what Israel is doing in Gaza and certainly not what’s happening in Iran. But, I fear how much I and all other American Jews are going to face even more antisemitism and retribution because of today’s actions. And I’m terrified.


Something tells me that you will be fine. Imagine being a Muslim in these United States right now. Now that group will face even more Islamophobia and harassment. It’s not all about you OP.


+1. This was my first thought when I read OP. It’s not all about you and you have the ability to make that clear by articulating you don’t support this. If more American Jews did this, it would impact the conversation.

But Muslims don’t have that luxury.


Muslims could speak up about Hamas and Iran. and it would have exactly the same influence on Islamophobia as speaking up about Gaza does on antisemitism. That is, zero.

We’ve been through this before. groups that are subject to animus have zero responsibility to declare themselves the “Good Ones” in order to be free from prejudice and hate crimes. It doesn’t work, and it’s not fair. This is exactly the same for antisemitism and Islamophobia and we learned this lesson after 9/11.


Muslims could also speak out against Islamic terror, the motivating force behind the ME terror regimes and groups. That would demonstrate that mainstream Muslims in the U.S. are cut from different cloth. But they don't say anything, why?


Should also be Jews responsible for speaking out against the genocide and ethnic cleansing Israel is committing?


That is literally what this thread is trying to do and the response has been “Jews make everything about themselves.” Because of antisemitism. That is a nakedly antisemitic viewpoint.

For some of you posters, breathing is antisemitism.


Please describe, in detail, why you think “Jews make everything about themselves” is not an antisemitic viewpoint. I’ll wait.


Israel attacks Iran. Jews immediately post about fear of antisemitism. They are the aggressor just like the US now but want to play the part of the victim. The person who said they use it as a get out of jail free card is onto the problem. Why don't you wait till something actually happens before you appeal to other's instincts to help you? Already most Americans are overwhelmed with the news that we are brought into this mess and most want out. We are too busy working to get our own government out of the conflict and deal with the people actually suffering physically to deal with your mental anguish. I don't have time for your fake victimhood saying that people are antisemitic because they don't agree with Israel or don't invite you to dinner anymore. Maybe they are being antisemitic but it's an appropriate response to the aggression. There are plenty of other groups that people display negativity towards. Anti-women, anti trans, anti gay, anti-white men, anti-blacks, anti-immigrant, anti-Palestinian. Unless there is an actual real threat to life I don't want to hear about it and am extremely upset we are now involved in yet another war placing the DC area in danger.


The entire point is Jews who have nothing to do with any of this are getting blamed. You do know that Jews already face the majority of hate crimes, right? https://www.marketwatch.com/story/jewish-people-make-up-2-4-of-the-u-s-population-but-are-the-targets-of-about-60-of-hate-crimes-linked-to-religion-says-fbi-director-2dd86906


Most people are able to make the distinction between Jews and Israel. Why can't you? Israel is being blamed, because Israel started this, knowing very well we would have to finish it.
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Anonymous wrote:For the record I don’t agree with any of this — not what Israel is doing in Gaza and certainly not what’s happening in Iran. But, I fear how much I and all other American Jews are going to face even more antisemitism and retribution because of today’s actions. And I’m terrified.


Something tells me that you will be fine. Imagine being a Muslim in these United States right now. Now that group will face even more Islamophobia and harassment. It’s not all about you OP.


+1. This was my first thought when I read OP. It’s not all about you and you have the ability to make that clear by articulating you don’t support this. If more American Jews did this, it would impact the conversation.

But Muslims don’t have that luxury.


Muslims could speak up about Hamas and Iran. and it would have exactly the same influence on Islamophobia as speaking up about Gaza does on antisemitism. That is, zero.

We’ve been through this before. groups that are subject to animus have zero responsibility to declare themselves the “Good Ones” in order to be free from prejudice and hate crimes. It doesn’t work, and it’s not fair. This is exactly the same for antisemitism and Islamophobia and we learned this lesson after 9/11.


Muslims could also speak out against Islamic terror, the motivating force behind the ME terror regimes and groups. That would demonstrate that mainstream Muslims in the U.S. are cut from different cloth. But they don't say anything, why?


Should also be Jews responsible for speaking out against the genocide and ethnic cleansing Israel is committing?


That is literally what this thread is trying to do and the response has been “Jews make everything about themselves.” Because of antisemitism. That is a nakedly antisemitic viewpoint.

For some of you posters, breathing is antisemitism.


Please describe, in detail, why you think “Jews make everything about themselves” is not an antisemitic viewpoint. I’ll wait.


Israel attacks Iran. Jews immediately post about fear of antisemitism. They are the aggressor just like the US now but want to play the part of the victim. The person who said they use it as a get out of jail free card is onto the problem. Why don't you wait till something actually happens before you appeal to other's instincts to help you? Already most Americans are overwhelmed with the news that we are brought into this mess and most want out. We are too busy working to get our own government out of the conflict and deal with the people actually suffering physically to deal with your mental anguish. I don't have time for your fake victimhood saying that people are antisemitic because they don't agree with Israel or don't invite you to dinner anymore. Maybe they are being antisemitic but it's an appropriate response to the aggression. There are plenty of other groups that people display negativity towards. Anti-women, anti trans, anti gay, anti-white men, anti-blacks, anti-immigrant, anti-Palestinian. Unless there is an actual real threat to life I don't want to hear about it and am extremely upset we are now involved in yet another war placing the DC area in danger.


The entire point is Jews who have nothing to do with any of this are getting blamed. You do know that Jews already face the majority of hate crimes, right? https://www.marketwatch.com/story/jewish-people-make-up-2-4-of-the-u-s-population-but-are-the-targets-of-about-60-of-hate-crimes-linked-to-religion-says-fbi-director-2dd86906


Nobody buys that, kemosabe.

Just because the ADL pushes false data doesn’t mean anyone is buying it …

Hate crimes are abhorrent anyway, regardless the victim’s identity. But cut the shit that Jewish Americans are the most targeted victim’s of anything.

There’s not a single Jewish American alive who would agree to trade places with a black, Latino or LBGT person for even an hour …
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