Israel strikes Iran despite Trump's nuclear deal hopes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who thinks Trump wasn’t totally clued into this attack is t paying attention. He fully approves.

Behind the scenes:

Israel was concerned yesterday that Trump's remarks about a possible Israeli attack were rousing the Iranians.
Someone was sent to President Trump, and he tweeted this reassuring post at midnight and nine minutes Israeli time - we are still committed to a diplomatic solution.

2:49 Then the war began.

Contrast reality with MAGA cope all over social media: "ThIS Is nOT AmERiCa'S WaR!!!"

They are really struggling to rationalize what's happening vs Trump promising "no new wars will start on my watch" and "world leaders respect Trump" and his "art of the deal" vs failed peaceful negotiations with Iran unfolding in realtime...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Talking was Iran stalling for time.

Israel is doing what they have to, to ensure their existence.

Just sit back and watch the choreography of a well run military and intelligence service.

Oh please with this existence crap. They’re threatening their own existence by taking on essentially the whole region. You do realize the Us backed down from Yemen a few weeks ago? Israel is not only taking on Iran but Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Gaza, and U.S. public opinion- their only ally. This is an idiotic gamble on the part of the Israelis. If I were in Israel, I would flee tomorrow. This is like a suicide bomber mission taking on all the countries at once. This isn’t 1948. They have Russia and China and an ambivalent Saudi Arabia on their side. Saudis are playing Israel. They don’t hate Iran. It’s a trick

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All part of the negotiation strategy.

Exactly, this is all part of Trump's controlled war strategy to prevent all out war and pressure Iran. Only the naive cannot see that these are just part of tactical negotiations

Trump can't get a trade deal done. He's certainly not in charge of any tactical war strategy.

[Anonymous]

It's interesting that mainstream media isn't showing any of the civilian casualties in Iran which includes women and children and that I can only find it on telegram.

I'm sure if it was Israeli children, we'd never hear the end of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, this is one time where I'd like to see China flex and back Iran with troops stationed in Iran. It would prevent the US from pissing away trillions of dollars getting sucked into another 20 year war because of Israel.

F that. I'm so sick and tired of the middle east. We have no healthcare. Our currency and bonds are crashing because of our out of control debt.

American military involvement overseas needs a goddamn counterbalance. We waste SO much money bombing goat herders because of stupid religious feuds going back 3000 years while our people are dying of insulin. Iran is none of US' concern.

You’d like to see China back Iran because you think that would lead to universal healthcare in the us?

You think that Iran having nuclear weapons, an oppressive regime that has destroyed Iran and funded massive destabilization in the region, is the key to peace in the Middle East and beyond? The Middle East hates western civilization. Whether you like Israel or not (and I hate Netanyahu) Israel striking Iran benefits the US without the US having to do so directly.

The Middle East doesn’t hate western civilisation. They invest in western civilisation and technology and they actually bring a valuable resource to the table (oil) unlike Israel. I know it pisses them off of all the nations, their nation is oil free. Israel is not wealthy in natural resources like Iran and this is what the war is really about

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's interesting that mainstream media isn't showing any of the civilian casualties in Iran which includes women and children and that I can only find it on telegram.

I'm sure if it was Israeli children, we'd never hear the end of it.

!! The media is also using the neocon favorite term - “pre-emptive strike” instead of the actual term unprovoked strike.

Was Oct 7 pre emptive?

The word pre-emptive is one of the worst things neocons brought to media. There’s no such thing as pre emptive. It’s called unprovoked

[Anonymous]

They cut off the head of the snake, including all the military heads and nuclear scientists. If Iran was smart they won't cancel the talks this weekend.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Talking was Iran stalling for time.

Israel is doing what they have to, to ensure their existence.

Just sit back and watch the choreography of a well run military and intelligence service.

Ah you Netanyahu nuts

I wonder if any Israelis actually have it in them to push back. Probably not

Most Israelis are fleeing the country . They gave up on getting rid of Bibi.

Nobody’s talking about the negative migration from Israel but it’s been a thing for the past five years since this new right wing gov. I predict if this war actually begins, the Israeli population will also decline. The IDF will kill more Palestinians to reduce their numbers to balance the population but in the end, Israel will be damaged with their reputation and economically with negative migration and that also hurts their military size which helps Hamas. Netanyahu is a freaking idiot and lacks foresight. He actually could have gone down as Israel’s best PM if he stopped while he was ahead. He wants this war so badly but it will be the death of his political career possibly

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's interesting that mainstream media isn't showing any of the civilian casualties in Iran which includes women and children and that I can only find it on telegram.

I'm sure if it was Israeli children, we'd never hear the end of it.

!! The media is also using the neocon favorite term - “pre-emptive strike” instead of the actual term unprovoked strike.

Was Oct 7 pre emptive?

The word pre-emptive is one of the worst things neocons brought to media. There’s no such thing as pre emptive. It’s called unprovoked

Right, language is important. This is an unprovoked attack.

‘Israel’ has now bombed five countries including Lebanon, Yemen, Palestine, Syria and Iran in the last six months. They have bombed residential areas in every country and predominantly civilians have been killed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's interesting that mainstream media isn't showing any of the civilian casualties in Iran which includes women and children and that I can only find it on telegram.

I'm sure if it was Israeli children, we'd never hear the end of it.

!! The media is also using the neocon favorite term - “pre-emptive strike” instead of the actual term unprovoked strike.

Was Oct 7 pre emptive?

The word pre-emptive is one of the worst things neocons brought to media. There’s no such thing as pre emptive. It’s called unprovoked

It was preemptive. Iran was on the verge of nuclear capability.
This strike, hopefully, ended those hopes of nuclear power for Iran.
When a country continually calls for "Death to Israel" and promises to wipe Israel off the map, you bet they are gong to take action.
This was years in the making - and the planning.
Conducting a lot of this operation from inside Iran shows they have been working toward this for some time now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's interesting that mainstream media isn't showing any of the civilian casualties in Iran which includes women and children and that I can only find it on telegram.

I'm sure if it was Israeli children, we'd never hear the end of it.

!! The media is also using the neocon favorite term - “pre-emptive strike” instead of the actual term unprovoked strike.

Was Oct 7 pre emptive?

The word pre-emptive is one of the worst things neocons brought to media. There’s no such thing as pre emptive. It’s called unprovoked

Right, language is important. This is an unprovoked attack.

‘Israel’ has now bombed five countries including Lebanon, Yemen, Palestine, Syria and Iran in the last six months. They have bombed residential areas in every country and predominantly civilians have been killed.

Nice try. When these countries attack Israel you folks expect them not to strike back.
This is a perfect example of FAFO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, this is one time where I'd like to see China flex and back Iran with troops stationed in Iran. It would prevent the US from pissing away trillions of dollars getting sucked into another 20 year war because of Israel.

F that. I'm so sick and tired of the middle east. We have no healthcare. Our currency and bonds are crashing because of our out of control debt.

American military involvement overseas needs a goddamn counterbalance. We waste SO much money bombing goat herders because of stupid religious feuds going back 3000 years while our people are dying of insulin. Iran is none of US' concern.

You’d like to see China back Iran because you think that would lead to universal healthcare in the us?

You think that Iran having nuclear weapons, an oppressive regime that has destroyed Iran and funded massive destabilization in the region, is the key to peace in the Middle East and beyond? The Middle East hates western civilization. Whether you like Israel or not (and I hate Netanyahu) Israel striking Iran benefits the US without the US having to do so directly.

Destroyed Iran is a wild statement. I bet they don’t have crumbling infrastructure and have free college and healthcare for their citizens.

As for their cultural or religious laws, why is that any of our business? Do we plan on force converting them like
This is the Middle Ages? The neocons need to stop with the rapture loony tune fairytale

[Anonymous]

Israel has a right to defend itself. It's not our call.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's interesting that mainstream media isn't showing any of the civilian casualties in Iran which includes women and children and that I can only find it on telegram.

I'm sure if it was Israeli children, we'd never hear the end of it.

!! The media is also using the neocon favorite term - “pre-emptive strike” instead of the actual term unprovoked strike.

Was Oct 7 pre emptive?

The word pre-emptive is one of the worst things neocons brought to media. There’s no such thing as pre emptive. It’s called unprovoked

It was preemptive. Iran was on the verge of nuclear capability.
This strike, hopefully, ended those hopes of nuclear power for Iran.
When a country continually calls for "Death to Israel" and promises to wipe Israel off the map, you bet they are gong to take action.
This was years in the making - and the planning.
Conducting a lot of this operation from inside Iran shows they have been working toward this for some time now.

According to Israel, Iranians were yanking Obama’s chain and and had nukes hidden in secret facilities the entire time after the deal for their cash.

So which one is it? Is this nuclear development new or did they already have it? News flash: Nukes aren’t just developed in three months.

They’ve worked on this for years without Us help and despite countless assasinations of their nuclear scientists they went ahead and gained capability because I don’t know- the two countries on their border (Iraq and Afghanistan)were invaded by the Us with Pres Bush promising Iran was up next.

Someone else pulled up comments of Israeli PM’s talking about Iranian nuclear capability in the 1980s so this is obviously something they’ve worked and had for a very long time and they didn’t “wipe Israel off the map” or even kill citizens in Tel Aviv with random dirty bombs. This is not in their wheelhouse but Israel wants to bomb their facilities and kill hundreds of thousands (possibly millions) over there with mini mushroom clouds.