“Always choose the bear” ??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do men get upset about this meme? Literally they are the biggest danger to women and other men. They commit almost all violent crime. Not all men are predators, but basically all predators are men. And women who commit violent acts are usually abuse survivors of men. If you don't understand why a woman who encountered a strange man in the woods would be scared, you are insane. At least the bear lives there and might just be going about its business. The man is probably up to no good.

What an insight. Now do race and crime and come back to us.

OK, sure. I only hire Latinos to clean my house. I am scared of both the black and the white people (usually women) who do this job. I am white. This comes from years of experience. I don't feel bad about it. A lot of this goes back to the men that the housekeepers could be involved with--I don't want those men coming near my house. So it really all comes back to men even when it starts out with race.

Almost missed it but it sounds like you chose Latina over black women for the job? Based on their race?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do men get upset about this meme? Literally they are the biggest danger to women and other men. They commit almost all violent crime. Not all men are predators, but basically all predators are men. And women who commit violent acts are usually abuse survivors of men. If you don't understand why a woman who encountered a strange man in the woods would be scared, you are insane. At least the bear lives there and might just be going about its business. The man is probably up to no good.

What an insight. Now do race and crime and come back to us.

OK, sure. I only hire Latinos to clean my house. I am scared of both the black and the white people (usually women) who do this job. I am white. This comes from years of experience. I don't feel bad about it. A lot of this goes back to the men that the housekeepers could be involved with--I don't want those men coming near my house. So it really all comes back to men even when it starts out with race.

It sounds like your fear comes down to economic class.

Um that’s not what she said…. She is cool with the Latinas but not the Blacks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do men get upset about this meme? Literally they are the biggest danger to women and other men. They commit almost all violent crime. Not all men are predators, but basically all predators are men. And women who commit violent acts are usually abuse survivors of men. If you don't understand why a woman who encountered a strange man in the woods would be scared, you are insane. At least the bear lives there and might just be going about its business. The man is probably up to no good.

What an insight. Now do race and crime and come back to us.

OK, sure. I only hire Latinos to clean my house. I am scared of both the black and the white people (usually women) who do this job. I am white. This comes from years of experience. I don't feel bad about it. A lot of this goes back to the men that the housekeepers could be involved with--I don't want those men coming near my house. So it really all comes back to men even when it starts out with race.

It sounds like your fear comes down to economic class.

Um that’s not what she said…. She is cool with the Latinas but not the Blacks.

Or the whites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do men get upset about this meme? Literally they are the biggest danger to women and other men. They commit almost all violent crime. Not all men are predators, but basically all predators are men. And women who commit violent acts are usually abuse survivors of men. If you don't understand why a woman who encountered a strange man in the woods would be scared, you are insane. At least the bear lives there and might just be going about its business. The man is probably up to no good.

What an insight. Now do race and crime and come back to us.

OK, sure. I only hire Latinos to clean my house. I am scared of both the black and the white people (usually women) who do this job. I am white. This comes from years of experience. I don't feel bad about it. A lot of this goes back to the men that the housekeepers could be involved with--I don't want those men coming near my house. So it really all comes back to men even when it starts out with race.

It sounds like your fear comes down to economic class.

Well, yes, for Americans. Immigrants are fine, as are their kids. Seriously.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like only predatory men with fragile egos are offended by this concept. My DH isn’t, nor are our male friends. But they are genuinely good men who treat women very well. If someone feels attacked by this idea it says a lot about them.

I’m not a man and I feel attacked by this idea. The notion that half of our population is so inherently dangerous that we would rather be with a large, dangerous wild animal is so out of line with reality that it blows my mind.

You sound like a predatory fragile ego man.

I guess it’s nice your reality is different than the vast majority of women. But that doesn’t negate the other billions of women’s’ experiences.

[Anonymous]

I used to think woman vs bear was obvious but having read this thread I’m not sure anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I used to think woman vs bear was obvious but having read this thread I’m not sure anymore.

It’s all misandry. That’s all you need to know.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate the whole man/bear thing. Yes, men suck, and I am concerned as the next woman about sexual assault, but if you google the manner in which bears actually kill and eat prey (not at all the same as big cats), I think most women would choose the man.

The entire trope seems extremely misandrist.

Yes. It’s fine to say you don’t want to encounter a man in the woods, but don’t you dare say you don’t want to encounter a gang of 3 18 year old urban black girls walking down U St. then you’re racist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel like only predatory men with fragile egos are offended by this concept. My DH isn’t, nor are our male friends. But they are genuinely good men who treat women very well. If someone feels attacked by this idea it says a lot about them.

Sure, predatory men with fragile egos may be offended. And also anyone with a basic understanding of statistics and above average intelligence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like only predatory men with fragile egos are offended by this concept. My DH isn’t, nor are our male friends. But they are genuinely good men who treat women very well. If someone feels attacked by this idea it says a lot about them.

I’m not a man and I feel attacked by this idea. The notion that half of our population is so inherently dangerous that we would rather be with a large, dangerous wild animal is so out of line with reality that it blows my mind.

You sound like a predatory fragile ego man.

I guess it’s nice your reality is different than the vast majority of women. But that doesn’t negate the other billions of women’s’ experiences.

Billions of women don’t get sexually assaulted by every man they see.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do men get upset about this meme? Literally they are the biggest danger to women and other men. They commit almost all violent crime. Not all men are predators, but basically all predators are men. And women who commit violent acts are usually abuse survivors of men. If you don't understand why a woman who encountered a strange man in the woods would be scared, you are insane. At least the bear lives there and might just be going about its business. The man is probably up to no good.

What an insight. Now do race and crime and come back to us.

A perceptive comment. PP states that she has a statistical basis for preferring the bear. (Which is objectively crazy and offensive on its face.) But if we were to apply the same logic to race, given that statistically the Black share of crime is very large relative to the Black percentage of the population, we would rightfully recoil.

Then the subsequent poster (PP again?), as if on cue, clarifies that misandry and racism are in fact quite close cousins.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like only predatory men with fragile egos are offended by this concept. My DH isn’t, nor are our male friends. But they are genuinely good men who treat women very well. If someone feels attacked by this idea it says a lot about them.

I’m not a man and I feel attacked by this idea. The notion that half of our population is so inherently dangerous that we would rather be with a large, dangerous wild animal is so out of line with reality that it blows my mind.

You sound like a predatory fragile ego man.

I guess it’s nice your reality is different than the vast majority of women. But that doesn’t negate the other billions of women’s’ experiences.

I am a woman and my experience is in line with most of the women I know. I even had almost exclusively male babysitters who often were black. Shocking but true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do men get upset about this meme? Literally they are the biggest danger to women and other men. They commit almost all violent crime. Not all men are predators, but basically all predators are men. And women who commit violent acts are usually abuse survivors of men. If you don't understand why a woman who encountered a strange man in the woods would be scared, you are insane. At least the bear lives there and might just be going about its business. The man is probably up to no good.

What an insight. Now do race and crime and come back to us.

A perceptive comment. PP states that she has a statistical basis for preferring the bear. (Which is objectively crazy and offensive on its face.) But if we were to apply the same logic to race, given that statistically the Black share of crime is very large relative to the Black percentage of the population, we would rightfully recoil.

Then the subsequent poster (PP again?), as if on cue, clarifies that misandry and racism are in fact quite close cousins.

We all have to live our lives based on experience/statistics and "stereotypes" come into play. I used to tell my kids to ask a mom for help (never a single man). And I choose the bear. And I hire latinos to work in my house. Sue me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like only predatory men with fragile egos are offended by this concept. My DH isn’t, nor are our male friends. But they are genuinely good men who treat women very well. If someone feels attacked by this idea it says a lot about them.

I’m not a man and I feel attacked by this idea. The notion that half of our population is so inherently dangerous that we would rather be with a large, dangerous wild animal is so out of line with reality that it blows my mind.

You sound like a predatory fragile ego man.

I guess it’s nice your reality is different than the vast majority of women. But that doesn’t negate the other billions of women’s’ experiences.

I am a woman and my experience is in line with most of the women I know. I even had almost exclusively male babysitters who often were black. Shocking but true.

You don’t know a single woman harassed or hurt by a man? I’m calling BS. That’s just… false.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like only predatory men with fragile egos are offended by this concept. My DH isn’t, nor are our male friends. But they are genuinely good men who treat women very well. If someone feels attacked by this idea it says a lot about them.

I’m not a man and I feel attacked by this idea. The notion that half of our population is so inherently dangerous that we would rather be with a large, dangerous wild animal is so out of line with reality that it blows my mind.

You sound like a predatory fragile ego man.

I guess it’s nice your reality is different than the vast majority of women. But that doesn’t negate the other billions of women’s’ experiences.

I am a woman and my experience is in line with most of the women I know. I even had almost exclusively male babysitters who often were black. Shocking but true.

You don’t know a single woman harassed or hurt by a man? I’m calling BS. That’s just… false.

Definitely not hurt. Harassed? That’s subjective.