Trump is going after Big Law

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Anonymous wrote:I'm no expert, but, uh, free speech anyone?

I mean they can’t be officially successful at this kind of hiring practice but it will certainly have a chilling effect, to a degree. It will also embolden some. As I said in my other post, they are also threatening law schools and demanding they change their curriculums or they will ban any grad from that school. Not that many new grads think they’ll get hired by the govt anytime soon anyway but that’s a scary threat for a student or new lawyer.

Why would a law student want to work for this government right now.

Same as always

Because they cant cut it as a real lawyer.

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Anonymous wrote:There was an admin law conference a few months ago and on a panel about the civil service, there was one more conservative-leaning professor. He all but rolled his eyes about some of the concerns of politicization of DOJ, targeting enemies, mass firing of federal employees, loyalty tests, etc. “He didn’t do that in his first administration, you all need to calm down!” Etc.

The concerns raised by the panel and audience members are NOTHING to compared to what has actually happened within the first few weeks of this administration. Hope those “omg you all are delusional and hysterical” people feel great. They’re probably still denying reality to themselves.

I attended this. That panel was terrible. But knowing the people on it, they are definitely still in denial.

Guys. Name names. These people were giving their remarks in public.

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Anonymous wrote:Hard to feel bad for big law.

It’s not about feeling “bad” for big law. It’s the deterioration of our fundamental rules of law. If our president is going after law firms based on who they represent we are not far off from full dictatorship.

They are hardcore Trump voters. Who cares?

This is not true. I don’t know a single associate or law firm partner at my V10 firm who has admitted to voting for Trump. If they are, they are silent because they know better. However, many of us have also been outspokenly anti-Trump since he arrived onto the political scene.

At the same time, I don’t feel bad for law firms either. They are plenty capable of defending themselves and hopefully they do something useful against Trump and his cronies.

This, and this includes Republican lawyers I know who used to raise money for people like Romney and McCain, vigorously defend the conservatives on the court, etc.

They are conservative but not stupid, so they aren't Trump supporters. The more educated you are, the less likely you are to vote for him. The ones I know care a lot about tradition, democratic norms, and foreign policy. They are traditional Republicans who hate Putin. They are horrified.

My Republican Big Law friends feel abandoned by the party thanks to Trump. Many of them changed their party affiliation to Independent when J6 happened, it was the final straw. I know several who donated a lot of money to Nikki Haley's campaign. I know many who voted for Harris through gritted teeth and held noses because voting for Trump was not an option and they knew abstaining altogether was a cop out.

+1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The First Thing we Do, Let’s Kill All the Lawyers

If one is plotting to take over government, yes.

JACK CADE. Be brave, then; for your captain is brave, and vows reformation. There shall be in England seven half-penny loaves sold for a penny: the three-hoop'd pot shall have ten hoops; and I will make it felony to drink small beer: all the realm shall be in common; and in Cheapside shall my palfrey go to grass: and when I am king,– as king I will be,–

ALL. God save your majesty!

JACK CADE. I thank you, good people:– there shall be no money; all shall eat and drink on my score; and I will apparel them all in one livery, that they may agree like brothers, and worship me their lord.

DICK. The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers.

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Biglaw will try to get by hiring boatloads of Liberty grads and putting them in a "playpen" portfolio with no billable hour requirements.

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Anonymous wrote:They’re also threatening law schools and sending letters saying they won’t hire a grad from a law school that has any sort of “inclusion” in its curriculum. So like, all good law schools.

Where did you get this? Link?

Also, let's face it, who from a good law school would want to work for Trumputin's government?

The threatening letter to Georgetown Law (which could not be more obvious viewpoint discrimination), and the Dean's wonderful response to it, is floating around on social media. It is real.

[Anonymous]

BTW everyone, if you haven't seen yet, you need to vote/pay attention to this year's DC Bar elections. Several huge Trump supporters are running in hopes of taking over the DC Bar.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They’re also threatening law schools and sending letters saying they won’t hire a grad from a law school that has any sort of “inclusion” in its curriculum. So like, all good law schools.

Where did you get this? Link?

Also, let's face it, who from a good law school would want to work for Trumputin's government?

The threatening letter to Georgetown Law (which could not be more obvious viewpoint discrimination), and the Dean's wonderful response to it, is floating around on social media. It is real.

I enjoyed the Dean correcting the Trump official's failure to include "Interim" in their job title.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:BTW everyone, if you haven't seen yet, you need to vote/pay attention to this year's DC Bar elections. Several huge Trump supporters are running in hopes of taking over the DC Bar.

I've been a member of the DC Bar for mumble-20-years-mumble but never voted. This year I will.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Which side of the line is Williams and Connelly on here? I’m considering a position there.

Somehow I doubt that because you can’t even spell the name correctly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm no expert, but, uh, free speech anyone?

I mean they can’t be officially successful at this kind of hiring practice but it will certainly have a chilling effect, to a degree. It will also embolden some. As I said in my other post, they are also threatening law schools and demanding they change their curriculums or they will ban any grad from that school. Not that many new grads think they’ll get hired by the govt anytime soon anyway but that’s a scary threat for a student or new lawyer.

Why would a law student want to work for this government right now.

Same as always

Because they cant cut it as a real lawyer.

You must not be a lawyer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hard to feel bad for big law.

Especially since BigLaw spent every minute of the Biden administration challenging every regulation and attacking the legitimacy of basically every independent agency.

Wtf?? I am at a fed regulator and I know this is normal - we issue rules and they get challenged, biglaw represents some of the industry litigants. That's the normal process of judicial review.

The government playing favorites and punishing private actors who have not done anything unlawful is unprecedented and scary.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There was an admin law conference a few months ago and on a panel about the civil service, there was one more conservative-leaning professor. He all but rolled his eyes about some of the concerns of politicization of DOJ, targeting enemies, mass firing of federal employees, loyalty tests, etc. “He didn’t do that in his first administration, you all need to calm down!” Etc.

The concerns raised by the panel and audience members are NOTHING to compared to what has actually happened within the first few weeks of this administration. Hope those “omg you all are delusional and hysterical” people feel great. They’re probably still denying reality to themselves.

I attended this. That panel was terrible. But knowing the people on it, they are definitely still in denial.

This is my field and I can relate to SO many worthless panels, speakers, consultants etc who still refuse to recognize the status quo is over. "Oh Washington always has a lot of turnover and feds leaving at the start of a new Administration" - gmafb

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hard to feel bad for big law.

Especially since BigLaw spent every minute of the Biden administration challenging every regulation and attacking the legitimacy of basically every independent agency.

Wtf?? I am at a fed regulator and I know this is normal - we issue rules and they get challenged, biglaw represents some of the industry litigants. That's the normal process of judicial review.

The government playing favorites and punishing private actors who have not done anything unlawful is unprecedented and scary.

Agreed. I'm not aware of firms getting sanctioned or admonished for filing spurious legal actions, so that means that the challenges had a legal basis. That was just functioning govt with established systems.

Personal attacks and unlawful actions are totally different and scary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm no expert, but, uh, free speech anyone?

I mean they can’t be officially successful at this kind of hiring practice but it will certainly have a chilling effect, to a degree. It will also embolden some. As I said in my other post, they are also threatening law schools and demanding they change their curriculums or they will ban any grad from that school. Not that many new grads think they’ll get hired by the govt anytime soon anyway but that’s a scary threat for a student or new lawyer.

Why would a law student want to work for this government right now.

Same as always

Because they cant cut it as a real lawyer.

You must not be a lawyer.

Yeah the DOJ Honors Program used to take only the best of the best. I'm assuming it will be a bunch of sycophants from those right wing diploma mills now.