Honestly don’t know what to say to my Trumper parents; brother likely losing job

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly if you haven’t confronted them about the fact that they voted for this and caused it, you are a better person than me.

OP here. I have confronted them. My dad and I have had two big fights over it. But honestly I don’t want our family to be divided in part because I know that is what Donald Trump and MAGA *want.* I know they want us to stop talking, understanding, caring for and respecting each other. I’ve made the case many times that this is not about Democrat vs. Republican, that this is about Trump/MAGA, which I consider to be a different entity from the Republican Party. But anyway, we’ve fought, and it doesn’t feel good. It doesn’t fix anything. It doesn’t make either of us change our minds.

I don’t want to fight more, especially since my aunt—my Dad’s only sibling—died very recently, and I know that life is very short. But he and my mom know I’m angry and hold them accountable. I just don’t want all this to take over the limited time we have left.

Trump and the MAGAs don't care about you or your parents. They just care about making themselves richers and the poor poorer.

Trumpers are dead to me. That would absolutely include my parents, if they were alive.

You're not holding your parents accountable if you continue to interact with them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly if you haven’t confronted them about the fact that they voted for this and caused it, you are a better person than me.

OP here. I have confronted them. My dad and I have had two big fights over it. But honestly I don’t want our family to be divided in part because I know that is what Donald Trump and MAGA *want.* I know they want us to stop talking, understanding, caring for and respecting each other. I’ve made the case many times that this is not about Democrat vs. Republican, that this is about Trump/MAGA, which I consider to be a different entity from the Republican Party. But anyway, we’ve fought, and it doesn’t feel good. It doesn’t fix anything. It doesn’t make either of us change our minds.

I don’t want to fight more, especially since my aunt—my Dad’s only sibling—died very recently, and I know that life is very short. But he and my mom know I’m angry and hold them accountable. I just don’t want all this to take over the limited time we have left.

You don’t have to fight every time it comes up. A quick, “yes, I know you’re worried about Brother. Call your representatives and senators to express your concern. Are you coming to grandkids dance recital this weekend? We can’t wait to see you!”

This is terrible advice. Kids shouldn't be interacting with Trumpers. My youngest is 7 and already considers supporting Trump to be an unforgivable offense.

Cut off the Trumpers entirely until they move away or die.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly if you haven’t confronted them about the fact that they voted for this and caused it, you are a better person than me.

OP here. I have confronted them. My dad and I have had two big fights over it. But honestly I don’t want our family to be divided in part because I know that is what Donald Trump and MAGA *want.* I know they want us to stop talking, understanding, caring for and respecting each other. I’ve made the case many times that this is not about Democrat vs. Republican, that this is about Trump/MAGA, which I consider to be a different entity from the Republican Party. But anyway, we’ve fought, and it doesn’t feel good. It doesn’t fix anything. It doesn’t make either of us change our minds.

I don’t want to fight more, especially since my aunt—my Dad’s only sibling—died very recently, and I know that life is very short. But he and my mom know I’m angry and hold them accountable. I just don’t want all this to take over the limited time we have left.

You don’t have to fight every time it comes up. A quick, “yes, I know you’re worried about Brother. Call your representatives and senators to express your concern. Are you coming to grandkids dance recital this weekend? We can’t wait to see you!”

This is terrible advice. Kids shouldn't be interacting with Trumpers. My youngest is 7 and already considers supporting Trump to be an unforgivable offense.

Cut off the Trumpers entirely until they move away or die.

Please don’t listen to this idiot. Good luck shielding your child (all children?) from half the country. I despise Trump, but your stance is ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My dad is going on and on about how worried he is; my brother is a fed and will likely be fired soon. Mom and Dad call and Dad especially goes on and on about how worried he is and how unfair it is and how HE is on pins and needles over this. I want to scream at them to keep their “worries” to themselves since they brought this on themselves. They voted for this! They went into a booth and chose this. And the only reason why they care at all is because it’s their son; they don’t care about the thousands upon thousands of other people who have been or will be unjustly fired. I honestly want nothing to do with them right now. I don’t know where to go from here. I don’t think I can get through one more phone call. I certainly am not inviting them to visit.

I think you can use your words and just tell them the truth. No screaming, no bad words, just calmly the plant truth. Thousands of people are like your brother and are being fired so Elon and the other billionaires can get an unsustainable tax cut. Cuts are so dumb snd indiscriminate that the administration is actually trying to get critical people back who were fired, like rhe nuclear experts. And wait until your parents snd everybody else will start losing services because there are no feds to administer them. Hope they are not in a tornado or hurricane path because next time they will have to come out of the rubbles by themselves and pay for shelter as FEMA will not exist.

If you dont tell them, your parents will never understand and will keep voting the same way. Or at least they will stop calling you to dump their worrries about your brother on you. I am in a similar situation, fed DH (so far with iob but who knows, and we have a kid in college and one coming up soon) with Trumper family. He used to just roll his eyes at their comments but now he responds to the BS, politely but firmly. And they go “oh but we were talking about you, we know you work hard, it’s the other feds” but he explains to them why what they are saying is misinformation and BS. They never go on with BS with me because i made politely clear what i think so they leave me alone. Dont hold back, be honest and you will do your parents, and everyone else, a favor

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly if you haven’t confronted them about the fact that they voted for this and caused it, you are a better person than me.

OP here. I have confronted them. My dad and I have had two big fights over it. But honestly I don’t want our family to be divided in part because I know that is what Donald Trump and MAGA *want.* I know they want us to stop talking, understanding, caring for and respecting each other. I’ve made the case many times that this is not about Democrat vs. Republican, that this is about Trump/MAGA, which I consider to be a different entity from the Republican Party. But anyway, we’ve fought, and it doesn’t feel good. It doesn’t fix anything. It doesn’t make either of us change our minds.

I don’t want to fight more, especially since my aunt—my Dad’s only sibling—died very recently, and I know that life is very short. But he and my mom know I’m angry and hold them accountable. I just don’t want all this to take over the limited time we have left.

You don’t have to fight every time it comes up. A quick, “yes, I know you’re worried about Brother. Call your representatives and senators to express your concern. Are you coming to grandkids dance recital this weekend? We can’t wait to see you!”

This is terrible advice. Kids shouldn't be interacting with Trumpers. My youngest is 7 and already considers supporting Trump to be an unforgivable offense.

Cut off the Trumpers entirely until they move away or die.

Please don’t listen to this idiot. Good luck shielding your child (all children?) from half the country. I despise Trump, but your stance is ridiculous.

You don't need to "shield" them. But you should choose better company to keep. Your children will be better off if you avoid implicitly sanctioning bad influences.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly if you haven’t confronted them about the fact that they voted for this and caused it, you are a better person than me.

OP here. I have confronted them. My dad and I have had two big fights over it. But honestly I don’t want our family to be divided in part because I know that is what Donald Trump and MAGA *want.* I know they want us to stop talking, understanding, caring for and respecting each other. I’ve made the case many times that this is not about Democrat vs. Republican, that this is about Trump/MAGA, which I consider to be a different entity from the Republican Party. But anyway, we’ve fought, and it doesn’t feel good. It doesn’t fix anything. It doesn’t make either of us change our minds.

I don’t want to fight more, especially since my aunt—my Dad’s only sibling—died very recently, and I know that life is very short. But he and my mom know I’m angry and hold them accountable. I just don’t want all this to take over the limited time we have left.

You don’t have to fight every time it comes up. A quick, “yes, I know you’re worried about Brother. Call your representatives and senators to express your concern. Are you coming to grandkids dance recital this weekend? We can’t wait to see you!”

This is terrible advice. Kids shouldn't be interacting with Trumpers. My youngest is 7 and already considers supporting Trump to be an unforgivable offense.

Cut off the Trumpers entirely until they move away or die.

Please don’t listen to this idiot. Good luck shielding your child (all children?) from half the country. I despise Trump, but your stance is ridiculous.

It's not half the country. It's less than half the voters, which isn't even all registered voters.

You get to be done with people who wish harm to the people you care about. You don't have to respect people who are surprised that the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party is now letting loose the leopards.

[Anonymous]

At least they aren't saying "we're so sorry for BIL, but this is good for the country....", which is the frustratingly stupid and false line I keep hearing from Trumpers when they find out I am losing my job a SECOND time because of Trump.

[Anonymous]

Were these mass firings part of Trump’s advertised platform?

[Anonymous]

Go tell your dumba$$ parents to go to the MAGA FAFO threads running on Reddit, X, Instagram, everything etc. We’re in the find out stage. They'll find plenty of company there.

[Anonymous]

I’m not understanding why you are keeping quiet here? They voted for this guy, now they, and the rest of us, have to deal with it. Call them out on their stupid choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“But I didn’t think the leopards would eat MY face,” wail the people who voted for the Leopard Face Eating Party.

Zero sympathy for them.

Absolutely but unfortunately these old boomers are probably fine and the leopards are eating OP brother 's face and there is no indication the brother/fed voted for the leopard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Make them say it. Make them say that they thought he'd leave the WHITE people alone and only go after the BROWN and BLACK people. Make. Them. Admit. It.

And then wash your hands of them. You can't reason with them. You can't convince them that what they believe is wrong. You can't provide proof to refute their claims because to them it's Fake News.

That's what I've done with my Maga family members. Sorry you're struggling. This is a good lesson that actions have consequences. That's all I've been saying when they text asking for money because FK THAT NONSENSE. You don't get to vote for Trump and then ask me for a handout.

The audacity. They are actually begging you to bail them out after voting for this madness. The cojones. They have no shame. Wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“But I didn’t think the leopards would eat MY face,” wail the people who voted for the Leopard Face Eating Party.

Zero sympathy for them.

Absolutely but unfortunately these old boomers are probably fine and the leopards are eating OP brother 's face and there is no indication the brother/fed voted for the leopard.

That’s just it. They’re fine sitting on their recliners watching it all unfold on FOX. It’s a show for them and they’re cheering on their hero. My MAGA parents are thrilled with what’s going on. We’re living it, they’re loving it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly if you haven’t confronted them about the fact that they voted for this and caused it, you are a better person than me.

OP here. I have confronted them. My dad and I have had two big fights over it. But honestly I don’t want our family to be divided in part because I know that is what Donald Trump and MAGA *want.* I know they want us to stop talking, understanding, caring for and respecting each other. I’ve made the case many times that this is not about Democrat vs. Republican, that this is about Trump/MAGA, which I consider to be a different entity from the Republican Party. But anyway, we’ve fought, and it doesn’t feel good. It doesn’t fix anything. It doesn’t make either of us change our minds.

I don’t want to fight more, especially since my aunt—my Dad’s only sibling—died very recently, and I know that life is very short. But he and my mom know I’m angry and hold them accountable. I just don’t want all this to take over the limited time we have left.

OP you talk about your relationship with your parents' complicity in your brother's imminent unemployment and your unwillingness to destroy your relationship with your parent, but what about your brother? What is your brother's current relationship with your parents. Does he feel the same way and continue to engage with the parents, if only reluctantly. I must admit, it would be difficult for me, but I hold grudges and have a long memory. Just curious as to how your brother is handling your parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At least they aren't saying "we're so sorry for BIL, but this is good for the country....", which is the frustratingly stupid and false line I keep hearing from Trumpers when they find out I am losing my job a SECOND time because of Trump.

And you continue to engage with such people. Are you a masochist or something. These people would be like cockroaches in my life. Dead.