Inaugural Prayer Service - reactions are telling

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:"Sorry. The Fat Man did not have to attend. Not obligated. He entered her church. If you go see your doctor to hear what you want to hear rather than the doctor's honest assessment of your health needs, then do not go. If you go see your trainer to talk sports rather than engage in a serious workout, then save your money and do not go. If you go to church to hear how great you are rather than some wisdom from the minister, then save your time and do not go"

I would agree with you if Trump went to the Church during its regularly Sunday service/mass. But that was not the case here. This was a special service marking.......the inauguration of President Trump. Big difference. The bishop could have chosen not to hold the special inaugural service for....... President Trump in one of the churches within her dioceses. Or chosen not to have provided over the service herself---the parish Episcopal priest at this Church could have conducted the service.


It's very sad and very telling to hear someone who considers themselves to be Christian chastise the bishop for calling for mercy during a sermon - any sermon, under any circumstances. It shows how deluded and twisted Trump's supposedly Christian followers have become.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately, I think part of the bishop's intent was to embarrass the President and Vice-President. If so, that was inappropriate for a national service. She could have refused to perform the service.

Same if for Biden's inaugural service the clergy deliberately went after Biden for not valuing life and supporting elective abortions.


You don’t know Bishop Budde if you think that was her intent. She is extremely kind, genuine and loving. Her intent was to preach the gospel and protect the vulnerable .
Anonymous
My mistake on one point. I got the service at the National Cathedral mixed up with the one at St John's Episcopal on inauguration day.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately, I think part of the bishop's intent was to embarrass the President and Vice-President. If so, that was inappropriate for a national service. She could have refused to perform the service.

Same if for Biden's inaugural service the clergy deliberately went after Biden for not valuing life and supporting elective abortions.


You don’t know Bishop Budde if you think that was her intent. She is extremely kind, genuine and loving. Her intent was to preach the gospel and protect the vulnerable .


https://www.advocate.com/news/bishop-mariann-budde-sermon-interview
Budde downplayed the notion that her sermon itself was extraordinary, instead emphasizing the broader context in which it was delivered.

“It was a pretty simple message,” she said. “What’s noteworthy is the time we’re living in right now and how, therefore, it was received, both with extreme adulation and as if I had just, you know, come down from the mountain with a new revelation, which is not true, or that I said something so new that it had never been said before.”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately, I think part of the bishop's intent was to embarrass the President and Vice-President. If so, that was inappropriate for a national service. She could have refused to perform the service.

Same if for Biden's inaugural service the clergy deliberately went after Biden for not valuing life and supporting elective abortions.


You don’t know Bishop Budde if you think that was her intent. She is extremely kind, genuine and loving. Her intent was to preach the gospel and protect the vulnerable .


https://www.advocate.com/news/bishop-mariann-budde-sermon-interview
Budde downplayed the notion that her sermon itself was extraordinary, instead emphasizing the broader context in which it was delivered.

“It was a pretty simple message,” she said. “What’s noteworthy is the time we’re living in right now and how, therefore, it was received, both with extreme adulation and as if I had just, you know, come down from the mountain with a new revelation, which is not true, or that I said something so new that it had never been said before.”


Yes BB is modest and genuine.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately, I think part of the bishop's intent was to embarrass the President and Vice-President. If so, that was inappropriate for a national service. She could have refused to perform the service.

Same if for Biden's inaugural service the clergy deliberately went after Biden for not valuing life and supporting elective abortions.


You don’t know Bishop Budde if you think that was her intent. She is extremely kind, genuine and loving. Her intent was to preach the gospel and protect the vulnerable .


True, but it doesn't matter whether or not they know Budde, It's in character for an episcopal bishop to talk about mercy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately, I think part of the bishop's intent was to embarrass the President and Vice-President. If so, that was inappropriate for a national service. She could have refused to perform the service.

Same if for Biden's inaugural service the clergy deliberately went after Biden for not valuing life and supporting elective abortions.


You don’t know Bishop Budde if you think that was her intent. She is extremely kind, genuine and loving. Her intent was to preach the gospel and protect the vulnerable .


True, but it doesn't matter whether or not they know Budde, It's in character for an episcopal bishop to talk about mercy.


Hopefully, it is in character for any human being, whether Episcopal, Catholic, or other Christian, whether Christian, Jewish or Muslim, whether religious or not.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately, I think part of the bishop's intent was to embarrass the President and Vice-President. If so, that was inappropriate for a national service. She could have refused to perform the service.

Same if for Biden's inaugural service the clergy deliberately went after Biden for not valuing life and supporting elective abortions.



Yes, it was embarrassing for him because he has no compassion or kindness. It's just all of us expect human beings to have those characteristics. It isn't her fault the orange man has none of that. That's a failing by any religious standing.
Anonymous
It was even more disgusting seeing how the young adults and children acted.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately, I think part of the bishop's intent was to embarrass the President and Vice-President. If so, that was inappropriate for a national service. She could have refused to perform the service.

Same if for Biden's inaugural service the clergy deliberately went after Biden for not valuing life and supporting elective abortions.


You don’t know Bishop Budde if you think that was her intent. She is extremely kind, genuine and loving. Her intent was to preach the gospel and protect the vulnerable .


https://www.advocate.com/news/bishop-mariann-budde-sermon-interview
Budde downplayed the notion that her sermon itself was extraordinary, instead emphasizing the broader context in which it was delivered.

“It was a pretty simple message,” she said. “What’s noteworthy is the time we’re living in right now and how, therefore, it was received, both with extreme adulation and as if I had just, you know, come down from the mountain with a new revelation, which is not true, or that I said something so new that it had never been said before.”


Yes BB is modest and genuine.


Genuine, maybe, but you can't be too modest if you carry a scepter and wear a big bejeweled hat.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately, I think part of the bishop's intent was to embarrass the President and Vice-President. If so, that was inappropriate for a national service. She could have refused to perform the service.

Same if for Biden's inaugural service the clergy deliberately went after Biden for not valuing life and supporting elective abortions.


You don’t know Bishop Budde if you think that was her intent. She is extremely kind, genuine and loving. Her intent was to preach the gospel and protect the vulnerable .


https://www.advocate.com/news/bishop-mariann-budde-sermon-interview
Budde downplayed the notion that her sermon itself was extraordinary, instead emphasizing the broader context in which it was delivered.

“It was a pretty simple message,” she said. “What’s noteworthy is the time we’re living in right now and how, therefore, it was received, both with extreme adulation and as if I had just, you know, come down from the mountain with a new revelation, which is not true, or that I said something so new that it had never been said before.”


Yes BB is modest and genuine.


Genuine, maybe, but you can't be too modest if you carry a scepter and wear a big bejeweled hat.


Fair point - on the surface.

I personally don’t think that BB is attached to the pomp and circumstance of Episcopalian rituals, attires and traditions of except as a cultural tradition to affirm, honor and love the mysterious presence of God in our lives.

In person, she is kind, humble, a good listener and nearly always brings sermons back to earnest interpretations of how ancient scriptures may morally illuminate our paths in our complex modern world.
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