Teacher Putting in Grades Every 2-3 Weeks

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Anonymous wrote:It’s the teacher’s job to let 150 students and their parents when the students don’t hand in their work? No, it’s on the student.

Some kids need more support.

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Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, it really bugs me when kids turn in work late, then demand it get graded immediately.

As a parent, it really bugs me when teachers don't ask kids for their homework and don't tell them it's missing, and then accuse them of being "late" weeks later.

As a teacher, I can't believe that you believed that one out of your DC.

As a teacher, you should catch up on your late paperwork and Canvas reporting instead of posting on DCUM.

DP. If it makes you happy, I worked 4 hours already today (Christmas Eve) and I’ll certainly work tomorrow.

So there you have it: I’m spending my entire break doing all the work I don’t have time to do at school.

I’d be happier if you kept up with it earlier so we’d know.
Happy now?

Here’s what you need to know:

I already work 60 hours a week, and I can’t keep up because the workload is so unreasonable. I refuse to go over 60, because (at some point) I feel I should be able to take care of my own family.

I use every holiday to catch up. I use every summer to get ahead.

This is the workload of a conscientious, dedicated teacher. We are the ones working with few resources to support your children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What I'm getting is that there are lot of insecure adults who base their self esteem on comparing themselves to children, holding the kids accountable while having no standards for themselves, despite being paid to be there and serve as educators. Too incompetent to be an overbearing bad manager at a failing business, you settle for being an overbearing bad manager of a classroom.
Congratulations 🎉 You have better executive functioning skills than a 12 year old stuck in room with 20 to 30 rowdy kids and no organized process for submitting work. Do you want a cookie?

MCPS biggest problem is the parents, at least DCUM parents.
My goodness, I would hate to be a teacher there and have to deal with parents like you.
-not a teacher, and don't live in MoCo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What I'm getting is that there are lot of insecure adults who base their self esteem on comparing themselves to children, holding the kids accountable while having no standards for themselves, despite being paid to be there and serve as educators. Too incompetent to be an overbearing bad manager at a failing business, you settle for being an overbearing bad manager of a classroom.
Congratulations 🎉 You have better executive functioning skills than a 12 year old stuck in room with 20 to 30 rowdy kids and no organized process for submitting work. Do you want a cookie?

What are you even talking about? Of course we have organized processes for submitting work. But many schools and districts now enforce "no late" policies and do not allow a teacher to enter a zero until attempts have been made with the student. If I have moved on from an assignment, I am not going to keep going back to check whether your child submitted their late assignment until I get to the end of the term.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s the teacher’s job to let 150 students and their parents when the students don’t hand in their work? No, it’s on the student.

Some kids need more support.

And do you think it's the teacher's job to provide this to the 30/50/70 kids who need this? I don't. This is a great time for you (or an EF coach) to teach your child ways to turn in their work.

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Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, it really bugs me when kids turn in work late, then demand it get graded immediately.

As a parent, it really bugs me when teachers don't ask kids for their homework and don't tell them it's missing, and then accuse them of being "late" weeks later.

As a teacher, I can't believe that you believed that one out of your DC.

As a teacher, you should catch up on your late paperwork and Canvas reporting instead of posting on DCUM.

DP. If it makes you happy, I worked 4 hours already today (Christmas Eve) and I’ll certainly work tomorrow.

So there you have it: I’m spending my entire break doing all the work I don’t have time to do at school.

I’d be happier if you kept up with it earlier so we’d know.
Happy now?

Here’s what you need to know:

I already work 60 hours a week, and I can’t keep up because the workload is so unreasonable. I refuse to go over 60, because (at some point) I feel I should be able to take care of my own family.

I use every holiday to catch up. I use every summer to get ahead.

This is the workload of a conscientious, dedicated teacher. We are the ones working with few resources to support your children.

Most teachers do very little to support individual students, maybe just a few of your favorites. Do more assignments online with autograding.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s the teacher’s job to let 150 students and their parents when the students don’t hand in their work? No, it’s on the student.

Some kids need more support.

And do you think it's the teacher's job to provide this to the 30/50/70 kids who need this? I don't. This is a great time for you (or an EF coach) to teach your child ways to turn in their work.

We are working with our kids. That's the point but if we have no clue what's going on as teachers don't grade and post stuff online nor respond to emails, how do we help? It needs to be collaborative.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s the teacher’s job to let 150 students and their parents when the students don’t hand in their work? No, it’s on the student.

Some kids need more support.

And do you think it's the teacher's job to provide this to the 30/50/70 kids who need this? I don't. This is a great time for you (or an EF coach) to teach your child ways to turn in their work.

We are working with our kids. That's the point but if we have no clue what's going on as teachers don't grade and post stuff online nor respond to emails, how do we help? It needs to be collaborative.

Then advocate for more teacher planning time. Your child is one of 150 students, many of whom have additional accommodations.

Teachers are given almost no time to do the things you are demanding, so it is all done at home on our own time. All of it.

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Anonymous wrote:Ignore the trolls saying that it's the kid's job to do the teacher's job for them.

The kid's "job" is to write down a list of assignments, do them and then check them off once turned in. If they do that, they won't have missing assignments at the end of the term.

If only that were true. My kids have had multiple occurrences of things showing as submitted it yet teacher losing the paper. There are also group assignments where only one perso can turn in so if that person doesn’t do so, everyone else doesn’t realize it until the the teacher notes it as missing. We’ve also had assignments that were not even due yet show up as 0 or 50%. It makes it so neither Students nor parents trust what is listed in Parentvue or Studentvue. Sometimes Canvas is better

I'm a teacher and I always have a few students who try to blame their missing assignments on me. Sorry... I am human and it might be possible for me to lose a paper once in a blue moon, but multiple papers from the same student, uh no. It is a very convenient excuse for mom and dad.

Yea I thought so too and tried to give some teacher’s grace. Tried to help kid do the same. Even sent an email myself to ask the teacher if there was something the kid was doing wrong in the submission process or just not turning it in. Once we had a PTC with one teacher, I was clear it wasn’t the kid. Everything started getting real clear once I started having the kid take a photo of the submitted assignments and then when asking about any problems attaching the photo plus copy his counselor and the resource teacher.

As far as how delayed grading can be, until this past Friday the last grade my kid had recorded in two classes was 11/15.

No, I’m not believing this. Nobody loses papers that often. And what does a photo of an assignment prove? Only that it existed, not that it was turned in. How do you take a pic of it “submitted” anyway?

I once had a family escalate a “lost paper” to my admin. The best part? The allegedly submitted assignment was digital. No record on Canvas (the system even said the assignment wasn’t turned in), no record in my email or Google drive as a shared file, etc. And somehow the child wasn’t able to share it with me again.

Kids lie far more than teachers lose papers.

What do you think happened? Kids are just stuffing them in their backpack and not turning them in? These isn’t an elementary schooler I’m talking about. Some of this was class work that was turned in on paper. Obviously you can take photos of quizzes and test. Some of the electronically submitted files that when the teacher searched for miraculously they came back indicating they have the file. No where did I say that kids don’t lie, which is why I started with the problem being my kid. But it’s also okay for you to admit that sometimes there are bad or at least disorganized teachers.

And while I certainly understand that teachers are stressed what do you want my kid and myself to do? I’m advocating for teachers to get their planning time back, I’m trying to be an engaged parent, my kid is trying to be an engaged student. But if the kid is getting little to no feedback on assignments and getting grades every 3-4 weeks, how do you expect students to do well or improve? How do you expect them to stay motivated? What does it say when grading times comes and I watch the kids grade bounce from an A to a C to a B and back to an A in one or two days. Or worse, just out of reach of an A. Meanwhile for kids who never turn in anything or who are getting F’s, schools are spending an insane amount of everyone’s time trying to figure out why or make sure they’ve had 5 phone calls.

Teachers have a union with a voice at the table. Ya’ll need to make clear that the current way of things is frustrating teachers, parents and students and either sometimes is done or everyone needs to agree to let this collapse so we can implement something new.

I’m still stuck on how you’re proving assignments are turned in.

You tell your child to take photos of quizzes and tests before they are submitted? Seriously??? I would immediately assume a child is cheating (or plans to cheat) if I see a cell phone pulled out at the end of an exam. This is horrible advice.

And yes, students regularly let unsubmitted work pile up in their backpacks. At least once a week I have a student with missing work sit by my desk and I ask them to go through the backpack. It’s almost ALWAYS wrinkled and crammed at the bottom. So many “my teacher lost it” papers are actually disintegrating at the bottom of backpacks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, it really bugs me when kids turn in work late, then demand it get graded immediately.

As a parent, it really bugs me when teachers don't ask kids for their homework and don't tell them it's missing, and then accuse them of being "late" weeks later.

As a teacher, I can't believe that you believed that one out of your DC.

As a teacher, you should catch up on your late paperwork and Canvas reporting instead of posting on DCUM.

DP. If it makes you happy, I worked 4 hours already today (Christmas Eve) and I’ll certainly work tomorrow.

So there you have it: I’m spending my entire break doing all the work I don’t have time to do at school.

I’d be happier if you kept up with it earlier so we’d know.
Happy now?

Here’s what you need to know:

I already work 60 hours a week, and I can’t keep up because the workload is so unreasonable. I refuse to go over 60, because (at some point) I feel I should be able to take care of my own family.

I use every holiday to catch up. I use every summer to get ahead.

This is the workload of a conscientious, dedicated teacher. We are the ones working with few resources to support your children.

Most teachers do very little to support individual students, maybe just a few of your favorites. Do more assignments online with autograding.

You are wrong. You clearly have no idea what it means to teach. So just STFU.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What I'm getting is that there are lot of insecure adults who base their self esteem on comparing themselves to children, holding the kids accountable while having no standards for themselves, despite being paid to be there and serve as educators. Too incompetent to be an overbearing bad manager at a failing business, you settle for being an overbearing bad manager of a classroom.
Congratulations 🎉 You have better executive functioning skills than a 12 year old stuck in room with 20 to 30 rowdy kids and no organized process for submitting work. Do you want a cookie?

What are you even talking about? Of course we have organized processes for submitting work. But many schools and districts now enforce "no late" policies and do not allow a teacher to enter a zero until attempts have been made with the student. If I have moved on from an assignment, I am not going to keep going back to check whether your child submitted their late assignment until I get to the end of the term.

No teacher is making attempts. Never seen it once. If I don't know, I cannot make sure it gets done. We check daily to every few days. Teachers need to work with parents and colloberate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, it really bugs me when kids turn in work late, then demand it get graded immediately.

As a parent, it really bugs me when teachers don't ask kids for their homework and don't tell them it's missing, and then accuse them of being "late" weeks later.

As a teacher, I can't believe that you believed that one out of your DC.

As a teacher, you should catch up on your late paperwork and Canvas reporting instead of posting on DCUM.

DP. If it makes you happy, I worked 4 hours already today (Christmas Eve) and I’ll certainly work tomorrow.

So there you have it: I’m spending my entire break doing all the work I don’t have time to do at school.

I’d be happier if you kept up with it earlier so we’d know.
Happy now?

Here’s what you need to know:

I already work 60 hours a week, and I can’t keep up because the workload is so unreasonable. I refuse to go over 60, because (at some point) I feel I should be able to take care of my own family.

I use every holiday to catch up. I use every summer to get ahead.

This is the workload of a conscientious, dedicated teacher. We are the ones working with few resources to support your children.

Most teachers do very little to support individual students, maybe just a few of your favorites. Do more assignments online with autograding.

You are wrong. You clearly have no idea what it means to teach. So just STFU.

You shouldn't be a teacher with that attitude. Very little is done in MS and HS. I can see the teachers who try. We have several teachers this year who have missed weeks, and its a huge problem in HS with AP classes and classes that have state required tests with no textbooks to work with them at home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ignore the trolls saying that it's the kid's job to do the teacher's job for them.

The kid's "job" is to write down a list of assignments, do them and then check them off once turned in. If they do that, they won't have missing assignments at the end of the term.

If only that were true. My kids have had multiple occurrences of things showing as submitted it yet teacher losing the paper. There are also group assignments where only one perso can turn in so if that person doesn’t do so, everyone else doesn’t realize it until the the teacher notes it as missing. We’ve also had assignments that were not even due yet show up as 0 or 50%. It makes it so neither Students nor parents trust what is listed in Parentvue or Studentvue. Sometimes Canvas is better

I'm a teacher and I always have a few students who try to blame their missing assignments on me. Sorry... I am human and it might be possible for me to lose a paper once in a blue moon, but multiple papers from the same student, uh no. It is a very convenient excuse for mom and dad.

Yea I thought so too and tried to give some teacher’s grace. Tried to help kid do the same. Even sent an email myself to ask the teacher if there was something the kid was doing wrong in the submission process or just not turning it in. Once we had a PTC with one teacher, I was clear it wasn’t the kid. Everything started getting real clear once I started having the kid take a photo of the submitted assignments and then when asking about any problems attaching the photo plus copy his counselor and the resource teacher.

As far as how delayed grading can be, until this past Friday the last grade my kid had recorded in two classes was 11/15.

No, I’m not believing this. Nobody loses papers that often. And what does a photo of an assignment prove? Only that it existed, not that it was turned in. How do you take a pic of it “submitted” anyway?

I once had a family escalate a “lost paper” to my admin. The best part? The allegedly submitted assignment was digital. No record on Canvas (the system even said the assignment wasn’t turned in), no record in my email or Google drive as a shared file, etc. And somehow the child wasn’t able to share it with me again.

Kids lie far more than teachers lose papers.

What do you think happened? Kids are just stuffing them in their backpack and not turning them in? These isn’t an elementary schooler I’m talking about. Some of this was class work that was turned in on paper. Obviously you can take photos of quizzes and test. Some of the electronically submitted files that when the teacher searched for miraculously they came back indicating they have the file. No where did I say that kids don’t lie, which is why I started with the problem being my kid. But it’s also okay for you to admit that sometimes there are bad or at least disorganized teachers.

And while I certainly understand that teachers are stressed what do you want my kid and myself to do? I’m advocating for teachers to get their planning time back, I’m trying to be an engaged parent, my kid is trying to be an engaged student. But if the kid is getting little to no feedback on assignments and getting grades every 3-4 weeks, how do you expect students to do well or improve? How do you expect them to stay motivated? What does it say when grading times comes and I watch the kids grade bounce from an A to a C to a B and back to an A in one or two days. Or worse, just out of reach of an A. Meanwhile for kids who never turn in anything or who are getting F’s, schools are spending an insane amount of everyone’s time trying to figure out why or make sure they’ve had 5 phone calls.

Teachers have a union with a voice at the table. Ya’ll need to make clear that the current way of things is frustrating teachers, parents and students and either sometimes is done or everyone needs to agree to let this collapse so we can implement something new.

I’m still stuck on how you’re proving assignments are turned in.

You tell your child to take photos of quizzes and tests before they are submitted? Seriously??? I would immediately assume a child is cheating (or plans to cheat) if I see a cell phone pulled out at the end of an exam. This is horrible advice.

And yes, students regularly let unsubmitted work pile up in their backpacks. At least once a week I have a student with missing work sit by my desk and I ask them to go through the backpack. It’s almost ALWAYS wrinkled and crammed at the bottom. So many “my teacher lost it” papers are actually disintegrating at the bottom of backpacks.

No there was no photos taken of quizzes and test. Specifically for the reason you mentioned, the teacher would view it as trying to cheat. However there was a Google folder of plenty of completed class work papers completed homework, include the digital page where it was submitted (whether via Canvas or Google classroom, or Desmond, or whatever other program). Very few out of class assignments are submitted on paper except for group projects.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, it really bugs me when kids turn in work late, then demand it get graded immediately.

As a parent, it really bugs me when teachers don't ask kids for their homework and don't tell them it's missing, and then accuse them of being "late" weeks later.

As a teacher, I can't believe that you believed that one out of your DC.

As a teacher, you should catch up on your late paperwork and Canvas reporting instead of posting on DCUM.

DP. If it makes you happy, I worked 4 hours already today (Christmas Eve) and I’ll certainly work tomorrow.

So there you have it: I’m spending my entire break doing all the work I don’t have time to do at school.

I’d be happier if you kept up with it earlier so we’d know.
Happy now?

Here’s what you need to know:

I already work 60 hours a week, and I can’t keep up because the workload is so unreasonable. I refuse to go over 60, because (at some point) I feel I should be able to take care of my own family.

I use every holiday to catch up. I use every summer to get ahead.

This is the workload of a conscientious, dedicated teacher. We are the ones working with few resources to support your children.

Most teachers do very little to support individual students, maybe just a few of your favorites. Do more assignments online with autograding.

You are wrong. You clearly have no idea what it means to teach. So just STFU.

You shouldn't be a teacher with that attitude. Very little is done in MS and HS. I can see the teachers who try. We have several teachers this year who have missed weeks, and its a huge problem in HS with AP classes and classes that have state required tests with no textbooks to work with them at home.

I have a lot of patience with students and I support all of them. But I don't have patience with parents like you, that is true. Sorry you are struggling as a parent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, it really bugs me when kids turn in work late, then demand it get graded immediately.

As a parent, it really bugs me when teachers don't ask kids for their homework and don't tell them it's missing, and then accuse them of being "late" weeks later.

As a teacher, I can't believe that you believed that one out of your DC.

As a teacher, you should catch up on your late paperwork and Canvas reporting instead of posting on DCUM.

DP. If it makes you happy, I worked 4 hours already today (Christmas Eve) and I’ll certainly work tomorrow.

So there you have it: I’m spending my entire break doing all the work I don’t have time to do at school.

I’d be happier if you kept up with it earlier so we’d know.
Happy now?

Here’s what you need to know:

I already work 60 hours a week, and I can’t keep up because the workload is so unreasonable. I refuse to go over 60, because (at some point) I feel I should be able to take care of my own family.

I use every holiday to catch up. I use every summer to get ahead.

This is the workload of a conscientious, dedicated teacher. We are the ones working with few resources to support your children.

Most teachers do very little to support individual students, maybe just a few of your favorites. Do more assignments online with autograding.

You are wrong. You clearly have no idea what it means to teach. So just STFU.

You shouldn't be a teacher with that attitude. Very little is done in MS and HS. I can see the teachers who try. We have several teachers this year who have missed weeks, and its a huge problem in HS with AP classes and classes that have state required tests with no textbooks to work with them at home.

You know that lack of textbooks is not a teacher issue. And, the inability of MCPS to fill slots for teachers who need leave is not a teacher issue. Not sure why you are attacking this teacher about these issues.

I don’t know whether it is luck or what, but all of my kids had great teachers and support at school - including my kid with special needs who was really difficult from day one until the day he graduated. And I am very thankful.