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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Ignore the trolls saying that it's the kid's job to do the teacher's job for them. [/quote] The kid's "job" is to write down a list of assignments, do them and then check them off once turned in. If they do that, they won't have missing assignments at the end of the term.[/quote] If only that were true. My kids have had multiple occurrences of things showing as submitted it yet teacher losing the paper. There are also group assignments where only one perso can turn in so if that person doesn’t do so, everyone else doesn’t realize it until the the teacher notes it as missing. We’ve also had assignments that were not even due yet show up as 0 or 50%. It makes it so neither Students nor parents trust what is listed in Parentvue or Studentvue. Sometimes Canvas is better[/quote] I'm a teacher and I always have a few students who try to blame their missing assignments on me. Sorry... I am human and it might be possible for me to lose a paper once in a blue moon, but multiple papers from the same student, uh no. It is a very convenient excuse for mom and dad.[/quote] Yea I thought so too and tried to give some teacher’s grace. Tried to help kid do the same. Even sent an email myself to ask the teacher if there was something the kid was doing wrong in the submission process or just not turning it in. Once we had a PTC with one teacher, I was clear it wasn’t the kid. Everything started getting real clear once I started having the kid take a photo of the submitted assignments and then when asking about any problems attaching the photo plus copy his counselor and the resource teacher. As far as how delayed grading can be, until this past Friday the last grade my kid had recorded in two classes was 11/15.[/quote] No, I’m not believing this. Nobody loses papers that often. And what does a photo of an assignment prove? Only that it existed, not that it was turned in. How do you take a pic of it “submitted” anyway? I once had a family escalate a “lost paper” to my admin. The best part? The allegedly submitted assignment was digital. No record on Canvas (the system even said the assignment wasn’t turned in), no record in my email or Google drive as a shared file, etc. And somehow the child wasn’t able to share it with me again. Kids lie far more than teachers lose papers.[/quote] What do you think happened? Kids are just stuffing them in their backpack and not turning them in? These isn’t an elementary schooler I’m talking about. Some of this was class work that was turned in on paper. Obviously you can take photos of quizzes and test. Some of the electronically submitted files that when the teacher searched for miraculously they came back indicating they have the file. No where did I say that kids don’t lie, which is why I started with the problem being my kid. But it’s also okay for you to admit that sometimes there are bad or at least disorganized teachers. And while I certainly understand that teachers are stressed what do you want my kid and myself to do? I’m advocating for teachers to get their planning time back, I’m trying to be an engaged parent, my kid is trying to be an engaged student. But if the kid is getting little to no feedback on assignments and getting grades every 3-4 weeks, how do you expect students to do well or improve? How do you expect them to stay motivated? What does it say when grading times comes and I watch the kids grade bounce from an A to a C to a B and back to an A in one or two days. Or worse, just out of reach of an A. Meanwhile for kids who never turn in anything or who are getting F’s, schools are spending an insane amount of everyone’s time trying to figure out why or make sure they’ve had 5 phone calls. Teachers have a union with a voice at the table. Ya’ll need to make clear that the current way of things is frustrating teachers, parents and students and either sometimes is done or everyone needs to agree to let this collapse so we can implement something new.[/quote] I’m still stuck on how you’re proving assignments are turned in. You tell your child to take photos of quizzes and tests before they are submitted? Seriously??? I would immediately assume a child is cheating (or plans to cheat) if I see a cell phone pulled out at the end of an exam. This is horrible advice. And yes, students regularly let unsubmitted work pile up in their backpacks. At least once a week I have a student with missing work sit by my desk and I ask them to go through the backpack. It’s almost ALWAYS wrinkled and crammed at the bottom. So many “my teacher lost it” papers are actually disintegrating at the bottom of backpacks. [/quote]
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