How are Big 3s doing with ED?

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Anonymous wrote:Mentioned on another post, but have big 3 schools (specifically cathedral schools) been doing well in the early round? Hear many got into Cornell.

The Sidwell students are killing it right now! What percentage of these kids are hooked? Are they more hooked than the other Big 3/5 schools?

As a parent of a 12th grader, more like getting killed than killing it. Most of my DD's friends have been deferred, with a few outright rejected. I don't know enough about each kid's record (and I don't want to know about each kid's record) to know if it's a very bad year (on top of what's now been a long string of bad years at Sidwell) or whether lots of kids weren't being realistic and wasted their ED shot. But there's obviously still time for good things to happen.

Lol— You can’t be a real Sidwell parent. If you were, you’d know that most of those deferrals will turn into acceptances during the RD round. Off the top of my head, over the past two years, ED deferrals led to RD acceptances to Harvard, Wharton, regular Penn 😊, Stanford, Swarthmore, Georgetown, Dartmouth, UChicago, Michigan, and Columbia. That’s not including the students who were admitted outright during RD. Unclench.

Signed,
Actual parent of a Sidwell alum and a current US student. This isn’t my first rodeo.

P.S. Nearly 65% of the students who have posted on IG are attending T25 universities (the vast majority are Ivy Plus/T15. I know a handful of others who fit this definition who haven’t posted. Objectively speaking, they’re killing it.

We are a Sidwell parent and this is just not true when talking about T25 schools for an unhooked student.

+1. My kid's Ivy defferals all turned into "soft rejections" (legacy at two Ivies).

What is a soft rejection?

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Anonymous wrote:Mentioned on another post, but have big 3 schools (specifically cathedral schools) been doing well in the early round? Hear many got into Cornell.

The Sidwell students are killing it right now! What percentage of these kids are hooked? Are they more hooked than the other Big 3/5 schools?

As a parent of a 12th grader, more like getting killed than killing it. Most of my DD's friends have been deferred, with a few outright rejected. I don't know enough about each kid's record (and I don't want to know about each kid's record) to know if it's a very bad year (on top of what's now been a long string of bad years at Sidwell) or whether lots of kids weren't being realistic and wasted their ED shot. But there's obviously still time for good things to happen.

Lol— You can’t be a real Sidwell parent. If you were, you’d know that most of those deferrals will turn into acceptances during the RD round. Off the top of my head, over the past two years, ED deferrals led to RD acceptances to Harvard, Wharton, regular Penn 😊, Stanford, Swarthmore, Georgetown, Dartmouth, UChicago, Michigan, and Columbia. That’s not including the students who were admitted outright during RD. Unclench.

Signed,
Actual parent of a Sidwell alum and a current US student. This isn’t my first rodeo.

P.S. Nearly 65% of the students who have posted on IG are attending T25 universities (the vast majority are Ivy Plus/T15. I know a handful of others who fit this definition who haven’t posted. Objectively speaking, they’re killing it.

We are a Sidwell parent and this is just not true when talking about T25 schools for an unhooked student.

Three out of the ten students I’m referencing were definitely NOT legacies.

That said, we don’t know what your child’s stats, ECs, or essays look like. Perhaps your child just doesn’t have what it takes to be admitted to a T25 university. The fact that Sidwell sends about 60-65% of each graduating class to T25 universities/T15 SLACs is pretty impressive. You should be aware that there is a bottom of the class at Sidwell, and those students still usually end up at T50 to T60 universities.

I hope all Sidwell parents are not arrogant jerks like this one

An arrogant jerk for telling the truth? Every Sidwell student is not entitled to be admitted to a T25U/T15LA.

I know a recent Sidwell graduate who was a mediocre student (around a 3.2 GPA), and he didn’t have a rigorous course load (senior year he took statistics and no foreign language class). Yet, this kid had the nerve to be upset that he wasn’t admitted to Wharton!
That’s what a lot of this whining sounds like—entitlement.

If your Sidwell student isn’t admitted to a T25 during the RD round, there’s a reason. And it’s not because they aren’t a recruited athlete, legacy, or URM. Sidwell can’t work miracles. 🙄

So, which is it? Is Sidwell hard, or is it not? People on the board keep saying a 3.2 at Sidwell is like a 4.5 elsewhere. You are saying a 3.2 at Sidwell is a mediocre student? Is it a mediocre student or an above-average student at a tough school with grade deflation? You can't have it both ways. Most kids at Sidwell are in 3.2-.3.7 range.

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Not a sidwell parent but one at another ‘big 3’ or at least I think hard to say what counts anymore. But sidwells ig page is amazing this year so far

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Anonymous wrote:Mentioned on another post, but have big 3 schools (specifically cathedral schools) been doing well in the early round? Hear many got into Cornell.

The Sidwell students are killing it right now! What percentage of these kids are hooked? Are they more hooked than the other Big 3/5 schools?

As a parent of a 12th grader, more like getting killed than killing it. Most of my DD's friends have been deferred, with a few outright rejected. I don't know enough about each kid's record (and I don't want to know about each kid's record) to know if it's a very bad year (on top of what's now been a long string of bad years at Sidwell) or whether lots of kids weren't being realistic and wasted their ED shot. But there's obviously still time for good things to happen.

Lol— You can’t be a real Sidwell parent. If you were, you’d know that most of those deferrals will turn into acceptances during the RD round. Off the top of my head, over the past two years, ED deferrals led to RD acceptances to Harvard, Wharton, regular Penn 😊, Stanford, Swarthmore, Georgetown, Dartmouth, UChicago, Michigan, and Columbia. That’s not including the students who were admitted outright during RD. Unclench.

Signed,
Actual parent of a Sidwell alum and a current US student. This isn’t my first rodeo.

P.S. Nearly 65% of the students who have posted on IG are attending T25 universities (the vast majority are Ivy Plus/T15. I know a handful of others who fit this definition who haven’t posted. Objectively speaking, they’re killing it.

We are a Sidwell parent and this is just not true when talking about T25 schools for an unhooked student.

Three out of the ten students I’m referencing were definitely NOT legacies.

That said, we don’t know what your child’s stats, ECs, or essays look like. Perhaps your child just doesn’t have what it takes to be admitted to a T25 university. The fact that Sidwell sends about 60-65% of each graduating class to T25 universities/T15 SLACs is pretty impressive. You should be aware that there is a bottom of the class at Sidwell, and those students still usually end up at T50 to T60 universities.

I hope all Sidwell parents are not arrogant jerks like this one

An arrogant jerk for telling the truth? Every Sidwell student is not entitled to be admitted to a T25U/T15LA.

I know a recent Sidwell graduate who was a mediocre student (around a 3.2 GPA), and he didn’t have a rigorous course load (senior year he took statistics and no foreign language class). Yet, this kid had the nerve to be upset that he wasn’t admitted to Wharton!
That’s what a lot of this whining sounds like—entitlement.

If your Sidwell student isn’t admitted to a T25 during the RD round, there’s a reason. And it’s not because they aren’t a recruited athlete, legacy, or URM. Sidwell can’t work miracles. 🙄

So, which is it? Is Sidwell hard, or is it not? People on the board keep saying a 3.2 at Sidwell is like a 4.5 elsewhere. You are saying a 3.2 at Sidwell is a mediocre student? Is it a mediocre student or an above-average student at a tough school with grade deflation? You can't have it both ways. Most kids at Sidwell are in 3.2-.3.7 range.

Who is trying to have it both ways? I’ve never said that a “3.2 at Sidwell is like a 4.5 elsewhere.” However, Sidwell is a hard school.

I would say that the median Sidwell senior cumulative GPA is around a 3.5. This, a 3.2 is mediocre if you expect to be admitted to a T25. Of course, that hasn’t stopped Sidwell students/families from believing that is their due.

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Anonymous wrote:Mentioned on another post, but have big 3 schools (specifically cathedral schools) been doing well in the early round? Hear many got into Cornell.

The Sidwell students are killing it right now! What percentage of these kids are hooked? Are they more hooked than the other Big 3/5 schools?

As a parent of a 12th grader, more like getting killed than killing it. Most of my DD's friends have been deferred, with a few outright rejected. I don't know enough about each kid's record (and I don't want to know about each kid's record) to know if it's a very bad year (on top of what's now been a long string of bad years at Sidwell) or whether lots of kids weren't being realistic and wasted their ED shot. But there's obviously still time for good things to happen.

Lol— You can’t be a real Sidwell parent. If you were, you’d know that most of those deferrals will turn into acceptances during the RD round. Off the top of my head, over the past two years, ED deferrals led to RD acceptances to Harvard, Wharton, regular Penn 😊, Stanford, Swarthmore, Georgetown, Dartmouth, UChicago, Michigan, and Columbia. That’s not including the students who were admitted outright during RD. Unclench.

Signed,
Actual parent of a Sidwell alum and a current US student. This isn’t my first rodeo.

P.S. Nearly 65% of the students who have posted on IG are attending T25 universities (the vast majority are Ivy Plus/T15. I know a handful of others who fit this definition who haven’t posted. Objectively speaking, they’re killing it.

We are a Sidwell parent and this is just not true when talking about T25 schools for an unhooked student.

Three out of the ten students I’m referencing were definitely NOT legacies.

That said, we don’t know what your child’s stats, ECs, or essays look like. Perhaps your child just doesn’t have what it takes to be admitted to a T25 university. The fact that Sidwell sends about 60-65% of each graduating class to T25 universities/T15 SLACs is pretty impressive. You should be aware that there is a bottom of the class at Sidwell, and those students still usually end up at T50 to T60 universities.

I hope all Sidwell parents are not arrogant jerks like this one

An arrogant jerk for telling the truth? Every Sidwell student is not entitled to be admitted to a T25U/T15LA.

I know a recent Sidwell graduate who was a mediocre student (around a 3.2 GPA), and he didn’t have a rigorous course load (senior year he took statistics and no foreign language class). Yet, this kid had the nerve to be upset that he wasn’t admitted to Wharton!
That’s what a lot of this whining sounds like—entitlement.

If your Sidwell student isn’t admitted to a T25 during the RD round, there’s a reason. And it’s not because they aren’t a recruited athlete, legacy, or URM. Sidwell can’t work miracles. 🙄

So, which is it? Is Sidwell hard, or is it not? People on the board keep saying a 3.2 at Sidwell is like a 4.5 elsewhere. You are saying a 3.2 at Sidwell is a mediocre student? Is it a mediocre student or an above-average student at a tough school with grade deflation? You can't have it both ways. Most kids at Sidwell are in 3.2-.3.7 range.

Who is trying to have it both ways? I’ve never said that a “3.2 at Sidwell is like a 4.5 elsewhere.” However, Sidwell is a hard school.

I would say that the median Sidwell senior cumulative GPA is around a 3.5. This, a 3.2 is mediocre if you expect to be admitted to a T25. Of course, that hasn’t stopped Sidwell students/families from believing that is their due.

Thus, a 3.2 is mediocre if you expect to be admitted to a T25.

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Anonymous wrote:Not a sidwell parent but one at another ‘big 3’ or at least I think hard to say what counts anymore. But sidwells ig page is amazing this year so far

+1. Anyone who says otherwise has an agenda.

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3.2 is low. We're at a similar school and GPAs range from about 2.8 to 3.9. There are no 4.0 grads. There is no weighting.

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If your Sidwell senior has >3.75 GPA, and comparable test scores, and isn’t admitted to a T25 university or T10 SLAC by the end of RD season, you have a reason to be surprised and disappointed. Unless your child’s application has huge red flags, they shouldn’t be shut out of these colleges. The rest of you need to pipe down. Your children don’t have the stats for such an entitled attitude.

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I just looked at the Sidwell IG page for acceptances. Impressive thus far, but what it shows me is the rich get richer. The pure privilege to be able to apply ED to these schools should not be overlooked. “Must be nice.” I have one in college now and a junior in HS. We receive FA. There’s a particular college my son would’ve thrived at, could’ve been accepted at if he ED’d, but we don’t have 86k. Alas, he has former classmates thriving there.

While I think it’s impressive these kids can get accepted to some of these schools, let’s not forget that colleges are happy to take full pay, wealthy families over those who can’t make that commitment ED. It’s not, and never will be, a level playing field.

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Anonymous wrote:I just looked at the Sidwell IG page for acceptances. Impressive thus far, but what it shows me is the rich get richer. The pure privilege to be able to apply ED to these schools should not be overlooked. “Must be nice.” I have one in college now and a junior in HS. We receive FA. There’s a particular college my son would’ve thrived at, could’ve been accepted at if he ED’d, but we don’t have 86k. Alas, he has former classmates thriving there.

While I think it’s impressive these kids can get accepted to some of these schools, let’s not forget that colleges are happy to take full pay, wealthy families over those who can’t make that commitment ED. It’s not, and never will be, a level playing field.

I don’t understand this. If you qualify for FA you’d get FA even if you did ED. I know plenty of students who applied ED and receive FA at their colleges.

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We only qualify for the parent plus loan. Our Catholic schools have been generous to us. Colleges are much less generous.

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Anonymous wrote:I just looked at the Sidwell IG page for acceptances. Impressive thus far, but what it shows me is the rich get richer. The pure privilege to be able to apply ED to these schools should not be overlooked. “Must be nice.” I have one in college now and a junior in HS. We receive FA. There’s a particular college my son would’ve thrived at, could’ve been accepted at if he ED’d, but we don’t have 86k. Alas, he has former classmates thriving there.

While I think it’s impressive these kids can get accepted to some of these schools, let’s not forget that colleges are happy to take full pay, wealthy families over those who can’t make that commitment ED. It’s not, and never will be, a level playing field.

DP. It’s really difficult for some of you to simply say congratulations and move on. Instead, you insist on writing long, fraught dissertations about the iniquity of college admissions in a country that has ALWAYS been inequitable. It’s only a problem when YOUR child is disadvantaged, correct?

One could argue that it’s your fault that:

1. Your child isn’t eligible for legacy admission to an Ivy+/T10/T25 because YOU didn’t graduate from one. Is the college you graduated from not good enough for your precious child? That’s on you;

2. You can’t afford to pay your child’s full tuition, fees, and room and board. Your life and career choices led you here; and

3. Your mediocre genetics/personal choices/child’s poor athletic ability led to your child not being a viable athletic recruit.

In summary, you’re lamenting the fact that these particular Sidwell students worked hard AND took full advantage of the wealth, privilege, and/or athletic abilities their parents bestowed upon them. You’re only upset that you’re not in a position to do the same for your children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Mentioned on another post, but have big 3 schools (specifically cathedral schools) been doing well in the early round? Hear many got into Cornell.

The Sidwell students are killing it right now! What percentage of these kids are hooked? Are they more hooked than the other Big 3/5 schools?

As a parent of a 12th grader, more like getting killed than killing it. Most of my DD's friends have been deferred, with a few outright rejected. I don't know enough about each kid's record (and I don't want to know about each kid's record) to know if it's a very bad year (on top of what's now been a long string of bad years at Sidwell) or whether lots of kids weren't being realistic and wasted their ED shot. But there's obviously still time for good things to happen.

Lol— You can’t be a real Sidwell parent. If you were, you’d know that most of those deferrals will turn into acceptances during the RD round. Off the top of my head, over the past two years, ED deferrals led to RD acceptances to Harvard, Wharton, regular Penn 😊, Stanford, Swarthmore, Georgetown, Dartmouth, UChicago, Michigan, and Columbia. That’s not including the students who were admitted outright during RD. Unclench.

Signed,
Actual parent of a Sidwell alum and a current US student. This isn’t my first rodeo.

P.S. Nearly 65% of the students who have posted on IG are attending T25 universities (the vast majority are Ivy Plus/T15. I know a handful of others who fit this definition who haven’t posted. Objectively speaking, they’re killing it.

We are a Sidwell parent and this is just not true when talking about T25 schools for an unhooked student.

+1. My kid's Ivy defferals all turned into "soft rejections" (legacy at two Ivies).

What is a soft rejection?

Deferred or waitlisted then rejected. Softer than initial rejection.

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Anonymous wrote:I just looked at the Sidwell IG page for acceptances. Impressive thus far, but what it shows me is the rich get richer. The pure privilege to be able to apply ED to these schools should not be overlooked. “Must be nice.” I have one in college now and a junior in HS. We receive FA. There’s a particular college my son would’ve thrived at, could’ve been accepted at if he ED’d, but we don’t have 86k. Alas, he has former classmates thriving there.

While I think it’s impressive these kids can get accepted to some of these schools, let’s not forget that colleges are happy to take full pay, wealthy families over those who can’t make that commitment ED. It’s not, and never will be, a level playing field.

DP. It’s really difficult for some of you to simply say congratulations and move on. Instead, you insist on writing long, fraught dissertations about the iniquity of college admissions in a country that has ALWAYS been inequitable. It’s only a problem when YOUR child is disadvantaged, correct?

One could argue that it’s your fault that:

1. Your child isn’t eligible for legacy admission to an Ivy+/T10/T25 because YOU didn’t graduate from one. Is the college you graduated from not good enough for your precious child? That’s on you;

2. You can’t afford to pay your child’s full tuition, fees, and room and board. Your life and career choices led you here; and

3. Your mediocre genetics/personal choices/child’s poor athletic ability led to your child not being a viable athletic recruit.

In summary, you’re lamenting the fact that these particular Sidwell students worked hard AND took full advantage of the wealth, privilege, and/or athletic abilities their parents bestowed upon them. You’re only upset that you’re not in a position to do the same for your children.

Exactly. People need to take responsibility for their own breeding choices. It’s not that expensive to buy superior genetic material. It’s your own fault for not doing so.

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Anonymous wrote:I just looked at the Sidwell IG page for acceptances. Impressive thus far, but what it shows me is the rich get richer. The pure privilege to be able to apply ED to these schools should not be overlooked. “Must be nice.” I have one in college now and a junior in HS. We receive FA. There’s a particular college my son would’ve thrived at, could’ve been accepted at if he ED’d, but we don’t have 86k. Alas, he has former classmates thriving there.

While I think it’s impressive these kids can get accepted to some of these schools, let’s not forget that colleges are happy to take full pay, wealthy families over those who can’t make that commitment ED. It’s not, and never will be, a level playing field.

DP. It’s really difficult for some of you to simply say congratulations and move on. Instead, you insist on writing long, fraught dissertations about the iniquity of college admissions in a country that has ALWAYS been inequitable. It’s only a problem when YOUR child is disadvantaged, correct?

One could argue that it’s your fault that:

1. Your child isn’t eligible for legacy admission to an Ivy+/T10/T25 because YOU didn’t graduate from one. Is the college you graduated from not good enough for your precious child? That’s on you;

2. You can’t afford to pay your child’s full tuition, fees, and room and board. Your life and career choices led you here; and

3. Your mediocre genetics/personal choices/child’s poor athletic ability led to your child not being a viable athletic recruit.

In summary, you’re lamenting the fact that these particular Sidwell students worked hard AND took full advantage of the wealth, privilege, and/or athletic abilities their parents bestowed upon them. You’re only upset that you’re not in a position to do the same for your children.

Exactly. People need to take responsibility for their own breeding choices. It’s not that expensive to buy superior genetic material. It’s your own fault for not doing so.

There are three (3) different options listed above, for the aggrieved parents rushing to these comments. If you’re unable to provide “superior genetic material” to help your children’s athletic prospects, then you certainly should make enough money to pay their full college tuition. Alternatively, you should at least provide legacy status for one college that’s acceptable to both you and your child.

If you’re unable to do any of these three things, that’s your fault. Your child will be admitted to some college, somewhere. Hopefully, they’ll do better for their children than you did for them.