Martha

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love Martha. She has aged impossibly well.

I couldn’t agree more.

She looks really great for 82.

I would love to have what she’s having.

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Anonymous wrote:She is clearly very smart and beautiful with a strong work ethic; however, to get ahead, she cheated and lied in both her personal life and her professional life.

I think there is substantial evidence, on a deeper dive, that through all eras of her life she did go that way. ( Like many CEO's can and do when they feel it is required). She had a lot of pride/hubris/arrogance in her early life and she ultimately paid for it both personally and professionally. She had to be the best and she had to win. This psychological tendency/drive runs and ran parallel to many true strengths, co existed with them and does not and did not take away from her enormous knowledge base, intelligence, strength, resiliency and understanding of her brand . I see that part of her as the dark side of her perfectionism and her struggle accepting limitations and flaws, in herself and others. (So she would embellish or lie to cover or avoid a shame she would feel in falling short, being exposed/looking bad in her own mind). I think she's grown, at the end of the doc she says she has learned to deal with imperfection.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well we can all use some help can't we? But that lady is boss. You know, she lost it all and came back. I tell you, the sign of a real player is when you can be down and still come back. That's a certain kind of talent and grit to be able to do that.

Rich and powerful businessmen decided to throw her a bone and use her as a front woman to make billions of dollars. Twice. She’s not some guru, she’s a front.

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Anonymous wrote:after watching that documentary i’m a huge fan. She’s a boss b!t$h and I love it. I’d put up with her berating me for using the wrong knife just for the privilege of working for her. None of her diva behavior if she were a man would be a topic.

on a side note this documentary reinforced my absolute hatred of what a complete scum bag misogynist Barbara Walters is.

Same here
I am intrigued and just ordered one of her books through Amazon

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Anonymous wrote:Well we can all use some help can't we? But that lady is boss. You know, she lost it all and came back. I tell you, the sign of a real player is when you can be down and still come back. That's a certain kind of talent and grit to be able to do that.

Rich and powerful businessmen decided to throw her a bone and use her as a front woman to make billions of dollars. Twice. She’s not some guru, she’s a front.

Oh man, that is not true at all. She was a very, very hands on editor in chief when she made the magazine a success. She also had a series of very long term, very empowered female executives, including Sharon Patrick who was with her when she consolidated all the media companies, which was a huge and risky move. You can say a lot about Martha, and I think you could make a strong argument that she was a far better businesswoman than “domestic guru,” but you can’t take the business success away from her if you have any interest in reality.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well we can all use some help can't we? But that lady is boss. You know, she lost it all and came back. I tell you, the sign of a real player is when you can be down and still come back. That's a certain kind of talent and grit to be able to do that.

Rich and powerful businessmen decided to throw her a bone and use her as a front woman to make billions of dollars. Twice. She’s not some guru, she’s a front.

Oh man, that is not true at all. She was a very, very hands on editor in chief when she made the magazine a success. She also had a series of very long term, very empowered female executives, including Sharon Patrick who was with her when she consolidated all the media companies, which was a huge and risky move. You can say a lot about Martha, and I think you could make a strong argument that she was a far better businesswoman than “domestic guru,” but you can’t take the business success away from her if you have any interest in reality.

You people are so gullible. Her first husband was a filthy rich Yale Law lawyer who went into publishing. Just a coincidence.

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Anonymous wrote:She is clearly very smart and beautiful with a strong work ethic; however, to get ahead, she cheated and lied in both her personal life and her professional life.

I think there is substantial evidence, on a deeper dive, that through all eras of her life she did go that way. ( Like many CEO's can and do when they feel it is required). She had a lot of pride/hubris/arrogance in her early life and she ultimately paid for it both personally and professionally. She had to be the best and she had to win. This psychological tendency/drive runs and ran parallel to many true strengths, co existed with them and does not and did not take away from her enormous knowledge base, intelligence, strength, resiliency and understanding of her brand . I see that part of her as the dark side of her perfectionism and her struggle accepting limitations and flaws, in herself and others. (So she would embellish or lie to cover or avoid a shame she would feel in falling short, being exposed/looking bad in her own mind). I think she's grown, at the end of the doc she says she has learned to deal with imperfection.

PP here. I appreciate your response and don't disagree with you.

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I am going to watch this to see what if anything, she mentions of her five months spent at Alderson.

I personally think her sentence was a little much considering that she had no prior criminal record.

Obviously the judge used her as an example.

I remember at the time how Martha was considering concentrating on “prison reform” considering what a bad experience she had.
Apparently the jail food was so bad that she lost a bit of weight while locked up…..

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She is clearly very smart and beautiful with a strong work ethic; however, to get ahead, she cheated and lied in both her personal life and her professional life.

I think there is substantial evidence, on a deeper dive, that through all eras of her life she did go that way. ( Like many CEO's can and do when they feel it is required). She had a lot of pride/hubris/arrogance in her early life and she ultimately paid for it both personally and professionally. She had to be the best and she had to win. This psychological tendency/drive runs and ran parallel to many true strengths, co existed with them and does not and did not take away from her enormous knowledge base, intelligence, strength, resiliency and understanding of her brand . I see that part of her as the dark side of her perfectionism and her struggle accepting limitations and flaws, in herself and others. (So she would embellish or lie to cover or avoid a shame she would feel in falling short, being exposed/looking bad in her own mind). I think she's grown, at the end of the doc she says she has learned to deal with imperfection.

Yes. But, boy---she got screwed with that court case/jail time. It was NOTHING compared to all the men that have done truly bad things. Christ---look at Trump and everyone involved in that administration. Look at true insider trading bigwigs. They really went after her--they couldn't even go for her on insider trading so they did a witch hunt. It would never have happened to anyone else. I'm not saying she likely wasn't guilty of taking that 'stock tip'..it just was such small peanuts compared to so many big wigs.

I was truly amazed by her endless energy and drive. Was she a pleasant person? Nah. I don't think she would have achieved such success if she was. It's who she was. She is highly intelligent and her manner and tone just cracks me up. Also, how she trivialized 'the Irishman' and the Duomo kiss---I was dying. I remember watching live when she did the Bieber roast and it was iconic. So Funny!!!

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Anonymous wrote:I am going to watch this to see what if anything, she mentions of her five months spent at Alderson.

I personally think her sentence was a little much considering that she had no prior criminal record.

Obviously the judge used her as an example.

I remember at the time how Martha was considering concentrating on “prison reform” considering what a bad experience she had.
Apparently the jail food was so bad that she lost a bit of weight while locked up…..

Oh--you will hear a lot about it. She talks about it--they read her letters from that time.

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Anonymous wrote:I love her and think she’s fascinating.

She has a very intense, rather cold and sometimes strange personality. I think that’s fairly common among highly successful business people.

I think what gets people going is the jarring contrast between her shark-like personality and her field, which we see as warm and fuzzy. And because it touches this big sore/raw area in women’s lives: the pressure to create (at least the appearance of) domestic perfection.

Had she built, say, a cement company? I don’t think it would be as interesting to anyone.

Look at Elon

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I love her. I loved RGB. I love Madonna. I love women who know their own mind and don't care about all you idiot nice people think. I'm a lady with my own business and it's hard work. There's a certain edge a woman needs in addition to the sacrifices all successful people make - aka guys. Most women won't forgive another woman for having it. The word nice is typically used to suggest that you aren't worthy of success if you're not nice enough. Such BS. Nice is the dumbest concept. Being kind makes sense. Being nice is a generic term for not having any sense.

All the haters are little people. Anyone who has any sliver of common sense can see that Martha, while FAR from perfect or admirable, deserves respect.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She is clearly very smart and beautiful with a strong work ethic; however, to get ahead, she cheated and lied in both her personal life and her professional life.

I think there is substantial evidence, on a deeper dive, that through all eras of her life she did go that way. ( Like many CEO's can and do when they feel it is required). She had a lot of pride/hubris/arrogance in her early life and she ultimately paid for it both personally and professionally. She had to be the best and she had to win. This psychological tendency/drive runs and ran parallel to many true strengths, co existed with them and does not and did not take away from her enormous knowledge base, intelligence, strength, resiliency and understanding of her brand . I see that part of her as the dark side of her perfectionism and her struggle accepting limitations and flaws, in herself and others. (So she would embellish or lie to cover or avoid a shame she would feel in falling short, being exposed/looking bad in her own mind). I think she's grown, at the end of the doc she says she has learned to deal with imperfection.

Yes. But, boy---she got screwed with that court case/jail time. It was NOTHING compared to all the men that have done truly bad things. Christ---look at Trump and everyone involved in that administration. Look at true insider trading bigwigs. They really went after her--they couldn't even go for her on insider trading so they did a witch hunt. It would never have happened to anyone else. I'm not saying she likely wasn't guilty of taking that 'stock tip'..it just was such small peanuts compared to so many big wigs.

I was truly amazed by her endless energy and drive. Was she a pleasant person? Nah. I don't think she would have achieved such success if she was. It's who she was. She is highly intelligent and her manner and tone just cracks me up. Also, how she trivialized 'the Irishman' and the Duomo kiss---I was dying. I remember watching live when she did the Bieber roast and it was iconic. So Funny!!!

She can be quite funny, I agree with you. She has very little filter anymore, it makes her outrageous which she enjoys a lot. . She threatened the intern with pulling out all her money with the firm and then added that the on hold music was horrible. I know she was not attempting to be funny but she's a master of language and bluntness so she goes to and says things most won't. It's always been part of her appeal, just basically saying whatever the hell she wants/brutally honest.

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Anonymous wrote:I love it. She's usually so stoic and without feeling. I love her baddie era!

She's really funny and honest.

Same. She finally doesn’t care what people think about her. It comes with age. I’m glad she has finally found freedom. I love Martha!

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Anonymous wrote:One last grasp at relevance, attention, and money.

Ignore it.

Sorry but she’s a household name…iconic…I doubt she is doing it for the relevance.