have you known top 20% kids at the Big3 who have gotten shut out of top40 schools? ED Strategy help needed....

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What GPA is generally top 20% at Big 3 (no weighting, no A+, etc)? 3.8+?

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Anonymous wrote:What GPA is generally top 20% at Big 3 (no weighting, no A+, etc)? 3.8+?

It depends on the year. Usually like 3.85+. In recent Covid years it's been has high as 3.89 or 3.9. This is a big3.

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At a Big 3 you will never know who is actually in the top 20% because cum laude is only the gpa from 10th, 11th and first semester of 12th. There are always kids with higher overall gpas that do not get into cum laude.

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Anonymous wrote:What GPA is generally top 20% at Big 3 (no weighting, no A+, etc)? 3.8+?

It depends on the year. Usually like 3.85+. In recent Covid years it's been has high as 3.89 or 3.9. This is a big3.

20% above 3.85?

Interesting.

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Anonymous wrote:What GPA is generally top 20% at Big 3 (no weighting, no A+, etc)? 3.8+?

It depends on the year. Usually like 3.85+. In recent Covid years it's been has high as 3.89 or 3.9. This is a big3.

20% above 3.85?

Interesting.

How would you even know that???? There is no way you can know every single kids gpa in the class unless you are the nosiest busy body. GPA's are not listed anywhere so unless you and your child are literally asking every single kid and keeping track then there is no way you can know.

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Anonymous wrote:What GPA is generally top 20% at Big 3 (no weighting, no A+, etc)? 3.8+?

It depends on the year. Usually like 3.85+. In recent Covid years it's been has high as 3.89 or 3.9. This is a big3.

20% above 3.85?

Interesting.

How would you even know that???? There is no way you can know every single kids gpa in the class unless you are the nosiest busy body. GPA's are not listed anywhere so unless you and your child are literally asking every single kid and keeping track then there is no way you can know.

PP here - my response is to the poster above claiming to know what the GPA is to be in the top 20 percent

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Anonymous wrote:What GPA is generally top 20% at Big 3 (no weighting, no A+, etc)? 3.8+?

It depends on the year. Usually like 3.85+. In recent Covid years it's been has high as 3.89 or 3.9. This is a big3.

20% above 3.85?

Interesting.

How would you even know that???? There is no way you can know every single kids gpa in the class unless you are the nosiest busy body. GPA's are not listed anywhere so unless you and your child are literally asking every single kid and keeping track then there is no way you can know.

PP here - my response is to the poster above claiming to know what the GPA is to be in the top 20 percent

Several of the schools have cum laude and the cut-off for this always becomes public knowledge.
Yes, it doesn't include freshman year but it's a fairly decent approximate of top 20%.

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If your kid shows aptitude in english, history, etc., apply early to the college at Penn. Everyone is super Wharton focused but post-college job placement is great from Penn liberal arts.

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Anonymous wrote:It's a crapshoot for all at the top schools, but you should be right in the mix for many of the top 40 schools from a top private. Worse case scenario would be something like a Wake Forest/Bucknell/BC/Middlebury placement.

Bucknell is not in same as BC and Middlebury.

Middlebury is top 20 liberal arts and should be an easy in for your student.

BC is tough tough to get into. Very tough admit.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:The private CC office would do their parents justice by steering kids in certain directions with top 20 schools so that the ED choice isn’t a waste. For example, if a kid wants to ED an Ivy, pointing out that there are 8 legacy kids applying early to Harvard would be a good thing to know! Not sure why this kind of advice isn’t given on the regular-even if you ask they don’t seem to want to answer!!

OP here. I tried asking CC this and didn't get very far. I asked if it made sense for my kid to ED to their #1 choice, given where others in the class were EDing. CC didn't give me any answer and implied that I was nosing into other kids' business (not my intent at all). Then I said "my reason for asking is just so we could pick another ED if the lane for choice #1 is crowded" and CC implied that I was making decisions on behalf of my child or forcing things on my child (which they HATE---they clearly never want parents talking on behalf of kids--which is difficult when the kid is 17 and barely came to the decision for one school--let alone is thinking through back-up ED choices).

I just feel way out in left field and confused.

Have you spoken to other parents who feel the same? If so, are there many? If not, maybe you need to take a step back and let your kid own this process.

Yes, the ones I'm good friends with feel similar. Then there is the crowd who has their head in the sand, thinks that CC is a bunch of loons, the data lies and is 100% that their 3.5 is going to walk into Princeton. Then there is the crowd who is pulling in favors from board members or VIPs. Parents are all over the map in terms of their perspective on this entire process. Applying to college from a "Big3" is.... something.

This sounds like a nightmare and honestly everyone should get some perspective. Your kid has done really well and is completely set up to do well in life, no matter where they go to college.

Personally, I'd take a step back from the crazy and focus on your kid and what they really want and need, not what you think you should be doing.

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Anonymous wrote:What GPA is generally top 20% at Big 3 (no weighting, no A+, etc)? 3.8+?

It depends on the year. Usually like 3.85+. In recent Covid years it's been has high as 3.89 or 3.9. This is a big3.

20% above 3.85?

Interesting.

How would you even know that???? There is no way you can know every single kids gpa in the class unless you are the nosiest busy body. GPA's are not listed anywhere so unless you and your child are literally asking every single kid and keeping track then there is no way you can know.

PP here - my response is to the poster above claiming to know what the GPA is to be in the top 20 percent

Several of the schools have cum laude and the cut-off for this always becomes public knowledge.
Yes, it doesn't include freshman year but it's a fairly decent approximate of top 20%.

The GPA cut off is not public knowledge or listed anywhere to normal parents. You clearly are the exception in what you know about students at your school. It is quite inappropriate.

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Anonymous wrote:What GPA is generally top 20% at Big 3 (no weighting, no A+, etc)? 3.8+?

It depends on the year. Usually like 3.85+. In recent Covid years it's been has high as 3.89 or 3.9. This is a big3.

20% above 3.85?

Interesting.

How would you even know that???? There is no way you can know every single kids gpa in the class unless you are the nosiest busy body. GPA's are not listed anywhere so unless you and your child are literally asking every single kid and keeping track then there is no way you can know.

PP here - my response is to the poster above claiming to know what the GPA is to be in the top 20 percent

Several of the schools have cum laude and the cut-off for this always becomes public knowledge.
Yes, it doesn't include freshman year but it's a fairly decent approximate of top 20%.

The GPA cut off is not public knowledge or listed anywhere to normal parents. You clearly are the exception in what you know about students at your school. It is quite inappropriate.

but wouldn't the CCO tell you if your kid is within that range? doesn't mean you'd know about other kids' GPAs though.

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Anonymous wrote:What GPA is generally top 20% at Big 3 (no weighting, no A+, etc)? 3.8+?

It depends on the year. Usually like 3.85+. In recent Covid years it's been has high as 3.89 or 3.9. This is a big3.

20% above 3.85?

Interesting.

How would you even know that???? There is no way you can know every single kids gpa in the class unless you are the nosiest busy body. GPA's are not listed anywhere so unless you and your child are literally asking every single kid and keeping track then there is no way you can know.

PP here - my response is to the poster above claiming to know what the GPA is to be in the top 20 percent

Several of the schools have cum laude and the cut-off for this always becomes public knowledge.
Yes, it doesn't include freshman year but it's a fairly decent approximate of top 20%.

The GPA cut off is not public knowledge or listed anywhere to normal parents. You clearly are the exception in what you know about students at your school. It is quite inappropriate.

Listen. My kid knew it--they figure out it. I'm sorry that your child is on the outs of the social chatter. The kids talk about it because they think it's cool that kids can do so well. It's really odd that you are this offended by this.

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Anonymous wrote:What GPA is generally top 20% at Big 3 (no weighting, no A+, etc)? 3.8+?

It depends on the year. Usually like 3.85+. In recent Covid years it's been has high as 3.89 or 3.9. This is a big3.

20% above 3.85?

Interesting.

How would you even know that???? There is no way you can know every single kids gpa in the class unless you are the nosiest busy body. GPA's are not listed anywhere so unless you and your child are literally asking every single kid and keeping track then there is no way you can know.

PP here - my response is to the poster above claiming to know what the GPA is to be in the top 20 percent

Several of the schools have cum laude and the cut-off for this always becomes public knowledge.
Yes, it doesn't include freshman year but it's a fairly decent approximate of top 20%.

The GPA cut off is not public knowledge or listed anywhere to normal parents. You clearly are the exception in what you know about students at your school. It is quite inappropriate.

Listen. My kid knew it--they figure out it. I'm sorry that your child is on the outs of the social chatter. The kids talk about it because they think it's cool that kids can do so well. It's really odd that you are this offended by this.

DP. Agree it is odd you know so much about the kids’ GPAs. There is always one or two parents per grade that are way too involved with the social and academic life of the students. Parent and kid are normally known as gossips.

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Anonymous wrote:What GPA is generally top 20% at Big 3 (no weighting, no A+, etc)? 3.8+?

It depends on the year. Usually like 3.85+. In recent Covid years it's been has high as 3.89 or 3.9. This is a big3.

20% above 3.85?

Interesting.

How would you even know that???? There is no way you can know every single kids gpa in the class unless you are the nosiest busy body. GPA's are not listed anywhere so unless you and your child are literally asking every single kid and keeping track then there is no way you can know.

PP here - my response is to the poster above claiming to know what the GPA is to be in the top 20 percent

Several of the schools have cum laude and the cut-off for this always becomes public knowledge.
Yes, it doesn't include freshman year but it's a fairly decent approximate of top 20%.

The GPA cut off is not public knowledge or listed anywhere to normal parents. You clearly are the exception in what you know about students at your school. It is quite inappropriate.

Listen. My kid knew it--they figure out it. I'm sorry that your child is on the outs of the social chatter. The kids talk about it because they think it's cool that kids can do so well. It's really odd that you are this offended by this.

DP. Agree it is odd you know so much about the kids’ GPAs. There is always one or two parents per grade that are way too involved with the social and academic life of the students. Parent and kid are normally known as gossips.

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Well this was not me. You likely wouldn't have even met me. I barely had a presence at the school when I was a parent there (too busy working) and I wasn't a gossip as I rarely spoke to anyone. However, I did know things about GPAs and similar from my kid who was very social and his/her friends.