have you known top 20% kids at the Big3 who have gotten shut out of top40 schools? ED Strategy help needed....

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Anonymous wrote:What GPA is generally top 20% at Big 3 (no weighting, no A+, etc)? 3.8+?

It depends on the year. Usually like 3.85+. In recent Covid years it's been has high as 3.89 or 3.9. This is a big3.

20% above 3.85?

Interesting.

How would you even know that???? There is no way you can know every single kids gpa in the class unless you are the nosiest busy body. GPA's are not listed anywhere so unless you and your child are literally asking every single kid and keeping track then there is no way you can know.

PP here - my response is to the poster above claiming to know what the GPA is to be in the top 20 percent

Several of the schools have cum laude and the cut-off for this always becomes public knowledge.
Yes, it doesn't include freshman year but it's a fairly decent approximate of top 20%.

The GPA cut off is not public knowledge or listed anywhere to normal parents. You clearly are the exception in what you know about students at your school. It is quite inappropriate.

Listen. My kid knew it--they figure out it. I'm sorry that your child is on the outs of the social chatter. The kids talk about it because they think it's cool that kids can do so well. It's really odd that you are this offended by this.

DP. Agree it is odd you know so much about the kids’ GPAs. There is always one or two parents per grade that are way too involved with the social and academic life of the students. Parent and kid are normally known as gossips.

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Well this was not me. You likely wouldn't have even met me. I barely had a presence at the school when I was a parent there (too busy working) and I wasn't a gossip as I rarely spoke to anyone. However, I did know things about GPAs and similar from my kid who was very social and his/her friends.

NP: My kid is very social with a great group and they have other things to talk about. I don’t know GPAs and if my kid knew someone else’s grade he wouldn’t be inclined to share it with me. We never talk about other kid’s grades and if it came up, I’d tell him to respect other’s privacy.

It’s still gossip, even if it is only shared between family members.

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Anonymous wrote:What GPA is generally top 20% at Big 3 (no weighting, no A+, etc)? 3.8+?

It depends on the year. Usually like 3.85+. In recent Covid years it's been has high as 3.89 or 3.9. This is a big3.

20% above 3.85?

Interesting.

How would you even know that???? There is no way you can know every single kids gpa in the class unless you are the nosiest busy body. GPA's are not listed anywhere so unless you and your child are literally asking every single kid and keeping track then there is no way you can know.

PP here - my response is to the poster above claiming to know what the GPA is to be in the top 20 percent

Several of the schools have cum laude and the cut-off for this always becomes public knowledge.
Yes, it doesn't include freshman year but it's a fairly decent approximate of top 20%.

The GPA cut off is not public knowledge or listed anywhere to normal parents. You clearly are the exception in what you know about students at your school. It is quite inappropriate.

Listen. My kid knew it--they figure out it. I'm sorry that your child is on the outs of the social chatter. The kids talk about it because they think it's cool that kids can do so well. It's really odd that you are this offended by this.

Oh yeah, super cool to have a kid on the “in” who runs home to tell Mommy what other kid’s grades are. But nice effort on trying to make it seem like kids who aren’t nosing around about other’s grades are on the “outs” socially.

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Anonymous wrote:I would ask you kid what their top choice is and why?
Where do they see themselves?
What do they think is the reason why a school should select them? (Put themselves in the shoes of the college reading lots of applications - why will they put the application in the yes pile?) what do they bring to campus?
This conversation becomes less about GPA and more about the person.

Good luck through this journey

Yes, early decision is for the school that is your child's true first choice school. Period.