And same with placement to top grad schools. Which does not surprise me one bit. |
| the average berkeley grad is very meh to me compare to an elite private grad. |
The average elite private grad is very meh to me compared to the rest of the top 50. |
Yeah, co-sign on that. |
Glad you feel good about paying out of state tuition on an overpriced education. |
False. I have had one graduate ivy and one more than half through a t10private. Both provide the bold in spades. None of their high school classmates from fancy dc private have had anywhere near the same extent as the bolded , at UCLA and michigan. Big classes, no ability to get into labs or school-year internships early, no pay for said opportunities for the few who get them, too many competing to curry favor with the same professors in large first yr classes. |
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QS is better and they are not even top10 |
DP Describe the application profile for your two kids, please. How well-rounded are they? ECs? |
| Are these rankings for undergrad or graduate work? |
They are the exception. Go check reddit and other sources for confirmation. |
This has already been debated many times. Privates and Ivy don’t guarantee small class size. Example- Cornell Intro to Psych has 800 students typically. Source: https://ezramagazine.cornell.edu/winter15/CoverStorySidebar5.html#:~:text=Cornell's%20largest%20course%20for%20years,as%20laughter%2C%20memory%20and%20sex. |
Yes, but on average, class sizes are far smaller at privates while research opportunities are more per student |
All rankings are "rigged" in the sense that each uses different criteria. UVa does not have a high enough % of non-US undergraduate students. This particular ranking, the "THE World Universities" list, factors that variable in. Recall that the Commonwealth insists that VT, UVa, and W&M have VA residents for roughly 2/3 of total undergrads. That pushes all 3 schools down the list. The same factor boosts many UK universities, because UK universities lose money on their UK undergrads and use numerous non-UK students (who pay much higher fees) to make their budgets balance. |
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Every ranking uses different criteria.
For example, THE has a different ranking scheme for its other big list - which is a UK universities only list. |