Vandy, wow…

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all roads lead to Cornell on DCUM when folks start throwing shade at ivies

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Anonymous wrote:The ACC is the only legitimate conference that has great academics and athletics. Ivy athletics outside of Hockey, fencing, and other obscure sports is weak. ACC:
Stanford
Duke
Cal
ND
UVA
UNC
GATech
VATech

Saying "the ACC" should be like saying "the Ivy League."

You forgot Wake Forest, Pitt, BC and NC State ND is not a member of the ACC.

Yes ND is in the ACC. I did not forget the other schools, other than Wake, I don't find them academic equivalents.

Nope, Notre Dame is not in any league, they play ACC teams in certain sports . Here’s a link so we don’t have to continue to squabble. https://www.on3.com/college/notre-dame-fighting-irish/news/heather-dinich-explains-why-notre-dame-has-no-interest-in-joining-a-conference/

Listen you idiot. ND is in the ACC. My original post said athletics, not just football. Every other sport competes in the ACC. So sit down and shut your mouth if you don't know what the hell you're yammering about.

https://theacc.com/index.aspx?path=notre_dame

Notre Dame is not a full member of the ACC and football is the marque sport.

Take the loss clown. You got cooked. ND is indeed in the ACC.

NP. This thread is about football...just sayin.

The responses were to a post about athletics, not football. ND is indeed in the ACC.

That was not clear at all in your post, which was on a thread about football. This is what you said:

"The ACC is the only legitimate conference that has great academics and athletics."

Anyone reading it (including me) would think you are continuing the conversation about football. Why you got so bent out of shape for the correction is bizarre. Take the loss? LOL

"Athletics" just because you have a dearth of reading comprehension skills doesn't make you right. You have been shown proof ND is indeed in the ACC. Take the loss.

That was a general comment about athletics that one could make while discussing football. The person who responded understandably wanted to correct you. Actually I was about to do the same until I saw the response. Your defensive tone was over the top and typical dcum. I shouldn’t be surprised.

ND is in the ACC. It's not debatable. The word "Athletics" has a meaning and again, it's not debatable. Just because you idiots don't understand it doesn't make it so. Stop arguing a loss. Here is the NCAA site. Ding, ding, ding... the frigging word "Athletic" is in the acronym. FFS you people are insufferable, how do you get through life?

https://www.ncaa.org/

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Anonymous wrote:The ACC is the only legitimate conference that has great academics and athletics. Ivy athletics outside of Hockey, fencing, and other obscure sports is weak. ACC:
Stanford
Duke
Cal
ND
UVA
UNC
GATech
VATech

Saying "the ACC" should be like saying "the Ivy League."

You forgot Wake Forest, Pitt, BC and NC State ND is not a member of the ACC.

Yes ND is in the ACC. I did not forget the other schools, other than Wake, I don't find them academic equivalents.

Nope, Notre Dame is not in any league, they play ACC teams in certain sports . Here’s a link so we don’t have to continue to squabble. https://www.on3.com/college/notre-dame-fighting-irish/news/heather-dinich-explains-why-notre-dame-has-no-interest-in-joining-a-conference/

Listen you idiot. ND is in the ACC. My original post said athletics, not just football. Every other sport competes in the ACC. So sit down and shut your mouth if you don't know what the hell you're yammering about.

https://theacc.com/index.aspx?path=notre_dame

Notre Dame is not a full member of the ACC and football is the marque sport.

Take the loss clown. You got cooked. ND is indeed in the ACC.

NP. This thread is about football...just sayin.

The responses were to a post about athletics, not football. ND is indeed in the ACC.

That was not clear at all in your post, which was on a thread about football. This is what you said:

"The ACC is the only legitimate conference that has great academics and athletics."

Anyone reading it (including me) would think you are continuing the conversation about football. Why you got so bent out of shape for the correction is bizarre. Take the loss? LOL

"Athletics" just because you have a dearth of reading comprehension skills doesn't make you right. You have been shown proof ND is indeed in the ACC. Take the loss.

That was a general comment about athletics that one could make while discussing football. The person who responded understandably wanted to correct you. Actually I was about to do the same until I saw the response. Your defensive tone was over the top and typical dcum. I shouldn’t be surprised.

ND is in the ACC. It's not debatable. The word "Athletics" has a meaning and again, it's not debatable. Just because you idiots don't understand it doesn't make it so. Stop arguing a loss. Here is the NCAA site. Ding, ding, ding... the frigging word "Athletic" is in the acronym. FFS you people are insufferable, how do you get through life?

https://www.ncaa.org/

Like I said, this is a football thread. We are talking FOOTBALL and ND is not in the ACC for FOOTBALL.

Start your own thread if you want to discuss general athletics and conferences.

Go Irish.

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Anonymous wrote:The ACC is the only legitimate conference that has great academics and athletics. Ivy athletics outside of Hockey, fencing, and other obscure sports is weak. ACC:
Stanford
Duke
Cal
ND
UVA
UNC
GATech
VATech

Saying "the ACC" should be like saying "the Ivy League."

You forgot Wake Forest, Pitt, BC and NC State ND is not a member of the ACC.

Yes ND is in the ACC. I did not forget the other schools, other than Wake, I don't find them academic equivalents.

Nope, Notre Dame is not in any league, they play ACC teams in certain sports . Here’s a link so we don’t have to continue to squabble. https://www.on3.com/college/notre-dame-fighting-irish/news/heather-dinich-explains-why-notre-dame-has-no-interest-in-joining-a-conference/

Listen you idiot. ND is in the ACC. My original post said athletics, not just football. Every other sport competes in the ACC. So sit down and shut your mouth if you don't know what the hell you're yammering about.

https://theacc.com/index.aspx?path=notre_dame

Notre Dame is not a full member of the ACC and football is the marque sport.

Take the loss clown. You got cooked. ND is indeed in the ACC.

NP. This thread is about football...just sayin.

The responses were to a post about athletics, not football. ND is indeed in the ACC.

That was not clear at all in your post, which was on a thread about football. This is what you said:

"The ACC is the only legitimate conference that has great academics and athletics."

Anyone reading it (including me) would think you are continuing the conversation about football. Why you got so bent out of shape for the correction is bizarre. Take the loss? LOL

"Athletics" just because you have a dearth of reading comprehension skills doesn't make you right. You have been shown proof ND is indeed in the ACC. Take the loss.

That was a general comment about athletics that one could make while discussing football. The person who responded understandably wanted to correct you. Actually I was about to do the same until I saw the response. Your defensive tone was over the top and typical dcum. I shouldn’t be surprised.

ND is in the ACC. It's not debatable. The word "Athletics" has a meaning and again, it's not debatable. Just because you idiots don't understand it doesn't make it so. Stop arguing a loss. Here is the NCAA site. Ding, ding, ding... the frigging word "Athletic" is in the acronym. FFS you people are insufferable, how do you get through life?

https://www.ncaa.org/

Like I said, this is a football thread. We are talking FOOTBALL and ND is not in the ACC for FOOTBALL.

Start your own thread if you want to discuss general athletics and conferences.

Go Irish.

DP. ND lost to NIU

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:insane win - what the mom and dad dcum strivers on this site don’t realize is that yes, as intended ur kid going to an ivy would impress your work colleagues, old college friends, and people in town - however, most cool/smart kids want to enjoy their college experience - unless you’ve brainwashed ur mini me into thinking tunnel vision ivy or bust, or your
progeny is a total nerd. My daughter told me that her friend group from top DCUM private were all sending around the vandy partying / goalpost in nashville videos last night. Will 100% impact applicants

This really doesn't change anything. There are less than 10 kids at my kid's top DC private who have the stats that Vandy wants and they were already applying (or in many cases-not). it doesn't matter whether the kids in the lower 90% of the class are now on the Vandy bandwagon--they're not getting in (they get rejected from our school each and every year like clockwork.)

Kids who might have ED to northwestern or Penn might pivot to Vandy.

Nnnnoo. Not going to happen. Students who want a top10 that is slightly more social than other T10s might pick Penn or NU or Duke over other t10. No one who was leaning ANY top10 will now be leaning Vandy. Vanderbilt is fine, but let’s be real: it’s peers are Emory, WashU, Rice,Georgetown, ND. Not ivies, not Northwestern, not even Duke(head to head admit data shows Vandy is never picked over any ivy or Duke , barring a free ride).

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Anonymous wrote:The ACC is the only legitimate conference that has great academics and athletics. Ivy athletics outside of Hockey, fencing, and other obscure sports is weak. ACC:
Stanford
Duke
Cal
ND
UVA
UNC
GATech
VATech

Saying "the ACC" should be like saying "the Ivy League."

You forgot Wake Forest, Pitt, BC and NC State ND is not a member of the ACC.

Yes ND is in the ACC. I did not forget the other schools, other than Wake, I don't find them academic equivalents.

Nope, Notre Dame is not in any league, they play ACC teams in certain sports . Here’s a link so we don’t have to continue to squabble. https://www.on3.com/college/notre-dame-fighting-irish/news/heather-dinich-explains-why-notre-dame-has-no-interest-in-joining-a-conference/

Listen you idiot. ND is in the ACC. My original post said athletics, not just football. Every other sport competes in the ACC. So sit down and shut your mouth if you don't know what the hell you're yammering about.

https://theacc.com/index.aspx?path=notre_dame

Notre Dame is not a full member of the ACC and football is the marque sport.

Take the loss clown. You got cooked. ND is indeed in the ACC.

NP. This thread is about football...just sayin.

The responses were to a post about athletics, not football. ND is indeed in the ACC.

That was not clear at all in your post, which was on a thread about football. This is what you said:

"The ACC is the only legitimate conference that has great academics and athletics."

Anyone reading it (including me) would think you are continuing the conversation about football. Why you got so bent out of shape for the correction is bizarre. Take the loss? LOL

"Athletics" just because you have a dearth of reading comprehension skills doesn't make you right. You have been shown proof ND is indeed in the ACC. Take the loss.

That was a general comment about athletics that one could make while discussing football. The person who responded understandably wanted to correct you. Actually I was about to do the same until I saw the response. Your defensive tone was over the top and typical dcum. I shouldn’t be surprised.

ND is in the ACC. It's not debatable. The word "Athletics" has a meaning and again, it's not debatable. Just because you idiots don't understand it doesn't make it so. Stop arguing a loss. Here is the NCAA site. Ding, ding, ding... the frigging word "Athletic" is in the acronym. FFS you people are insufferable, how do you get through life?

https://www.ncaa.org/

Like I said, this is a football thread. We are talking FOOTBALL and ND is not in the ACC for FOOTBALL.

Start your own thread if you want to discuss general athletics and conferences.

Go Irish.

DP. ND lost to NIU

Yes that was unfortunate. They're ranked #11 this week though. That's what I love about college footbal...kids are so unpredictable.

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Anonymous wrote:The ACC is the only legitimate conference that has great academics and athletics. Ivy athletics outside of Hockey, fencing, and other obscure sports is weak. ACC:
Stanford
Duke
Cal
ND
UVA
UNC
GATech
VATech

Saying "the ACC" should be like saying "the Ivy League."

You forgot Wake Forest, Pitt, BC and NC State ND is not a member of the ACC.

Yes ND is in the ACC. I did not forget the other schools, other than Wake, I don't find them academic equivalents.

Nope, Notre Dame is not in any league, they play ACC teams in certain sports . Here’s a link so we don’t have to continue to squabble. https://www.on3.com/college/notre-dame-fighting-irish/news/heather-dinich-explains-why-notre-dame-has-no-interest-in-joining-a-conference/

Listen you idiot. ND is in the ACC. My original post said athletics, not just football. Every other sport competes in the ACC. So sit down and shut your mouth if you don't know what the hell you're yammering about.

https://theacc.com/index.aspx?path=notre_dame

Notre Dame is not a full member of the ACC and football is the marque sport.

Take the loss clown. You got cooked. ND is indeed in the ACC.

NP. This thread is about football...just sayin.

The responses were to a post about athletics, not football. ND is indeed in the ACC.

That was not clear at all in your post, which was on a thread about football. This is what you said:

"The ACC is the only legitimate conference that has great academics and athletics."

Anyone reading it (including me) would think you are continuing the conversation about football. Why you got so bent out of shape for the correction is bizarre. Take the loss? LOL

"Athletics" just because you have a dearth of reading comprehension skills doesn't make you right. You have been shown proof ND is indeed in the ACC. Take the loss.

That was a general comment about athletics that one could make while discussing football. The person who responded understandably wanted to correct you. Actually I was about to do the same until I saw the response. Your defensive tone was over the top and typical dcum. I shouldn’t be surprised.

ND is in the ACC. It's not debatable. The word "Athletics" has a meaning and again, it's not debatable. Just because you idiots don't understand it doesn't make it so. Stop arguing a loss. Here is the NCAA site. Ding, ding, ding... the frigging word "Athletic" is in the acronym. FFS you people are insufferable, how do you get through life?

https://www.ncaa.org/

Like I said, this is a football thread. We are talking FOOTBALL and ND is not in the ACC for FOOTBALL.

Start your own thread if you want to discuss general athletics and conferences.

Go Irish.

DP. ND lost to NIU

Sick burn. ND booster doesn't like loosing. They just got throttled on this thread and are really mad. Pathetic. Oh...ND is in the ACC for athletics... it's not debatable

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:insane win - what the mom and dad dcum strivers on this site don’t realize is that yes, as intended ur kid going to an ivy would impress your work colleagues, old college friends, and people in town - however, most cool/smart kids want to enjoy their college experience - unless you’ve brainwashed ur mini me into thinking tunnel vision ivy or bust, or your
progeny is a total nerd. My daughter told me that her friend group from top DCUM private were all sending around the vandy partying / goalpost in nashville videos last night. Will 100% impact applicants

This really doesn't change anything. There are less than 10 kids at my kid's top DC private who have the stats that Vandy wants and they were already applying (or in many cases-not). it doesn't matter whether the kids in the lower 90% of the class are now on the Vandy bandwagon--they're not getting in (they get rejected from our school each and every year like clockwork.)

Kids who might have ED to northwestern or Penn might pivot to Vandy.

Nnnnoo. Not going to happen. Students who want a top10 that is slightly more social than other T10s might pick Penn or NU or Duke over other t10. No one who was leaning ANY top10 will now be leaning Vandy. Vanderbilt is fine, but let’s be real: it’s peers are Emory, WashU, Rice,Georgetown, ND. Not ivies, not Northwestern, not even Duke(head to head admit data shows Vandy is never picked over any ivy or Duke , barring a free ride).

Where can one find this type of data?

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Anonymous wrote:insane win - what the mom and dad dcum strivers on this site don’t realize is that yes, as intended ur kid going to an ivy would impress your work colleagues, old college friends, and people in town - however, most cool/smart kids want to enjoy their college experience - unless you’ve brainwashed ur mini me into thinking tunnel vision ivy or bust, or your
progeny is a total nerd. My daughter told me that her friend group from top DCUM private were all sending around the vandy partying / goalpost in nashville videos last night. Will 100% impact applicants

This really doesn't change anything. There are less than 10 kids at my kid's top DC private who have the stats that Vandy wants and they were already applying (or in many cases-not). it doesn't matter whether the kids in the lower 90% of the class are now on the Vandy bandwagon--they're not getting in (they get rejected from our school each and every year like clockwork.)

Kids who might have ED to northwestern or Penn might pivot to Vandy.

Nnnnoo. Not going to happen. Students who want a top10 that is slightly more social than other T10s might pick Penn or NU or Duke over other t10. No one who was leaning ANY top10 will now be leaning Vandy. Vanderbilt is fine, but let’s be real: it’s peers are Emory, WashU, Rice,Georgetown, ND. Not ivies, not Northwestern, not even Duke(head to head admit data shows Vandy is never picked over any ivy or Duke , barring a free ride).

From where was your data retrieved?

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App State beating Michigan was a bigger upset. App State, on the road and a football sub division team beat the #5 team while Vanderbilt is actually a DI school in the SEC.

Vanderbilt had some success in the past with James Franklin as coach until the rape allegations and he left.

Like another person said, they will be back to their usual routine next week.

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Anonymous wrote:The ACC is the only legitimate conference that has great academics and athletics. Ivy athletics outside of Hockey, fencing, and other obscure sports is weak. ACC:
Stanford
Duke
Cal
ND
UVA
UNC
GATech
VATech

Saying "the ACC" should be like saying "the Ivy League."

Nice try. VT brings it down quite a few notches! Stanford and Duke are top 10, Stanford a top 5, nowhere near the Ivy League ‘s rank in the USA and especially not in the world. Only Stanford is ranked in the worldwide Top20. Last I checked 6 ivies were (all but Dartmouth and Brown). Even the top 4-5 in ACC are not anywhere close to the same prestige and power as the top 4-5 Ivy League. “The river of power runs from the Ivy League “ and all that. And I am a Duke alum married to an ivy grad. They do not care about sports: they care about intellectual dominance and power, especially internationally.

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Anonymous wrote:The ACC is the only legitimate conference that has great academics and athletics. Ivy athletics outside of Hockey, fencing, and other obscure sports is weak. ACC:
Stanford
Duke
Cal
ND
UVA
UNC
GATech
VATech

Saying "the ACC" should be like saying "the Ivy League."

You forgot Wake Forest, Pitt, BC and NC State ND is not a member of the ACC.

Yes ND is in the ACC. I did not forget the other schools, other than Wake, I don't find them academic equivalents.

Nope, Notre Dame is not in any league, they play ACC teams in certain sports . Here’s a link so we don’t have to continue to squabble. https://www.on3.com/college/notre-dame-fighting-irish/news/heather-dinich-explains-why-notre-dame-has-no-interest-in-joining-a-conference/

Listen you idiot. ND is in the ACC. My original post said athletics, not just football. Every other sport competes in the ACC. So sit down and shut your mouth if you don't know what the hell you're yammering about.

https://theacc.com/index.aspx?path=notre_dame

Notre Dame is not a full member of the ACC and football is the marque sport.

Take the loss clown. You got cooked. ND is indeed in the ACC.

NP. This thread is about football...just sayin.

The responses were to a post about athletics, not football. ND is indeed in the ACC.

That was not clear at all in your post, which was on a thread about football. This is what you said:

"The ACC is the only legitimate conference that has great academics and athletics."

Anyone reading it (including me) would think you are continuing the conversation about football. Why you got so bent out of shape for the correction is bizarre. Take the loss? LOL

"Athletics" just because you have a dearth of reading comprehension skills doesn't make you right. You have been shown proof ND is indeed in the ACC. Take the loss.

That was a general comment about athletics that one could make while discussing football. The person who responded understandably wanted to correct you. Actually I was about to do the same until I saw the response. Your defensive tone was over the top and typical dcum. I shouldn’t be surprised.

ND is in the ACC. It's not debatable. The word "Athletics" has a meaning and again, it's not debatable. Just because you idiots don't understand it doesn't make it so. Stop arguing a loss. Here is the NCAA site. Ding, ding, ding... the frigging word "Athletic" is in the acronym. FFS you people are insufferable, how do you get through life?

https://www.ncaa.org/

Like I said, this is a football thread. We are talking FOOTBALL and ND is not in the ACC for FOOTBALL.

Start your own thread if you want to discuss general athletics and conferences.

Go Irish.

DP. ND lost to NIU

Sick burn. ND booster doesn't like loosing. They just got throttled on this thread and are really mad. Pathetic. Oh...ND is in the ACC for athletics... it's not debatable

Who likes losing? Oh and ND is NOT in the ACC for football. Football is one of their main athletic programs. So you are wrong. This is a football thread. Remember?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:insane win - what the mom and dad dcum strivers on this site don’t realize is that yes, as intended ur kid going to an ivy would impress your work colleagues, old college friends, and people in town - however, most cool/smart kids want to enjoy their college experience - unless you’ve brainwashed ur mini me into thinking tunnel vision ivy or bust, or your
progeny is a total nerd. My daughter told me that her friend group from top DCUM private were all sending around the vandy partying / goalpost in nashville videos last night. Will 100% impact applicants

This really doesn't change anything. There are less than 10 kids at my kid's top DC private who have the stats that Vandy wants and they were already applying (or in many cases-not). it doesn't matter whether the kids in the lower 90% of the class are now on the Vandy bandwagon--they're not getting in (they get rejected from our school each and every year like clockwork.)

Kids who might have ED to northwestern or Penn might pivot to Vandy.

Nnnnoo. Not going to happen. Students who want a top10 that is slightly more social than other T10s might pick Penn or NU or Duke over other t10. No one who was leaning ANY top10 will now be leaning Vandy. Vanderbilt is fine, but let’s be real: it’s peers are Emory, WashU, Rice,Georgetown, ND. Not ivies, not Northwestern, not even Duke(head to head admit data shows Vandy is never picked over any ivy or Duke , barring a free ride).

Northwestern and Vanderbilt get the same kids. Duke students tend to be a little nerdier. And all three schools get students who are not fixated on Ivy League or bust. Vanderbilt, Northwestern, and Duke typically get a large percentage of their class in the early decision round. Which means the schools were their first choice. And all of those admitted students are more than qualified for any Ivy League school, but they clearly have different priorities and wants.

Among 18 year olds, Vanderbilt more than holds its own against any school. There remains some generational bias from older people, but times change. And beating Alabama and having a fun big time sports moment is something that is very appealing to a lot of smart and social students. Watching your school beat Alabama on national television is far more exciting than yet another desultory game between Columbia and Penn. It's a vibe that's very appealing to a lot of people. And the difference in prestige or opportunities between Vanderbilt and Dartmouth, Cornell, Brown, Columbia, or Penn outside of Wharton is negligible. A lot of students today would choose Vanderbilt over the Ivy League. And yesterday's game will only cement that.

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Anonymous wrote:insane win - what the mom and dad dcum strivers on this site don’t realize is that yes, as intended ur kid going to an ivy would impress your work colleagues, old college friends, and people in town - however, most cool/smart kids want to enjoy their college experience - unless you’ve brainwashed ur mini me into thinking tunnel vision ivy or bust, or your
progeny is a total nerd. My daughter told me that her friend group from top DCUM private were all sending around the vandy partying / goalpost in nashville videos last night. Will 100% impact applicants

This really doesn't change anything. There are less than 10 kids at my kid's top DC private who have the stats that Vandy wants and they were already applying (or in many cases-not). it doesn't matter whether the kids in the lower 90% of the class are now on the Vandy bandwagon--they're not getting in (they get rejected from our school each and every year like clockwork.)

Kids who might have ED to northwestern or Penn might pivot to Vandy.

Nnnnoo. Not going to happen. Students who want a top10 that is slightly more social than other T10s might pick Penn or NU or Duke over other t10. No one who was leaning ANY top10 will now be leaning Vandy. Vanderbilt is fine, but let’s be real: it’s peers are Emory, WashU, Rice,Georgetown, ND. Not ivies, not Northwestern, not even Duke(head to head admit data shows Vandy is never picked over any ivy or Duke , barring a free ride).

Northwestern and Vanderbilt get the same kids. Duke students tend to be a little nerdier. And all three schools get students who are not fixated on Ivy League or bust. Vanderbilt, Northwestern, and Duke typically get a large percentage of their class in the early decision round. Which means the schools were their first choice. And all of those admitted students are more than qualified for any Ivy League school, but they clearly have different priorities and wants.

Among 18 year olds, Vanderbilt more than holds its own against any school. There remains some generational bias from older people, but times change. And beating Alabama and having a fun big time sports moment is something that is very appealing to a lot of smart and social students. Watching your school beat Alabama on national television is far more exciting than yet another desultory game between Columbia and Penn. It's a vibe that's very appealing to a lot of people. And the difference in prestige or opportunities between Vanderbilt and Dartmouth, Cornell, Brown, Columbia, or Penn outside of Wharton is negligible. A lot of students today would choose Vanderbilt over the Ivy League. And yesterday's game will only cement that.

this will trigger the vandy bashers, but it’s 1000% correct - excellent and perceptive post

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Anonymous wrote:The ACC is the only legitimate conference that has great academics and athletics. Ivy athletics outside of Hockey, fencing, and other obscure sports is weak. ACC:
Stanford
Duke
Cal
ND
UVA
UNC
GATech
VATech

Saying "the ACC" should be like saying "the Ivy League."

You forgot Wake Forest, Pitt, BC and NC State ND is not a member of the ACC.

Yes ND is in the ACC. I did not forget the other schools, other than Wake, I don't find them academic equivalents.

Nope, Notre Dame is not in any league, they play ACC teams in certain sports . Here’s a link so we don’t have to continue to squabble. https://www.on3.com/college/notre-dame-fighting-irish/news/heather-dinich-explains-why-notre-dame-has-no-interest-in-joining-a-conference/

Listen you idiot. ND is in the ACC. My original post said athletics, not just football. Every other sport competes in the ACC. So sit down and shut your mouth if you don't know what the hell you're yammering about.

https://theacc.com/index.aspx?path=notre_dame

Notre Dame is not a full member of the ACC and football is the marque sport.

No one cares except for Rudy so move on.