DDOT's latest plan to destroy traffic, Georgia Avenue edition

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The good news about the dedicated bus lane is that it DOES come with increased enforcement of laws - the cameras on buses will ticket the double parked scofflaws. Win win.

Can you recommend to this non-biker the best bike rack for my car that will block my license plate?

Thule Trailways XT from Dick’s. If you have an SUV. Remove your front plate

I buy very used children’s bikes at garage sales and keep one on the rack at all times so no camera can capture the image of the back plate. If the bike gets stolen, NBD because it was $16. So far no one has stolen it although I leave it on the rack when parked on the street etc

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The good news about the dedicated bus lane is that it DOES come with increased enforcement of laws - the cameras on buses will ticket the double parked scofflaws. Win win.

Can you recommend to this non-biker the best bike rack for my car that will block my license plate?

Thule Trailways XT from Dick’s. If you have an SUV. Remove your front plate

I buy very used children’s bikes at garage sales and keep one on the rack at all times so no camera can capture the image of the back plate. If the bike gets stolen, NBD because it was $16. So far no one has stolen it although I leave it on the rack when parked on the street etc

Scofflaw driver.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Love it; bring it to more of the major streets. Thanks DDOT!

Seems like this makes the streets more dangerous, not less.

Drivers aren't going to sit in traffic, and they're not going to switch to the bus. This will just shift traffic onto all the smaller streets around Georgia Avenue. How is that better?

Seems like it's better to focus traffic on big roads where everyone expects there to be lots of cars. I would be pissed if I lived in a neighborhood near Georgia.

One more lane of cars commutting through DC; that will solve it. DC is not (and should not) widen roads.

The area's population is growing. Even if fully devoted to cars and their drivers, the local road system will eventually be at capacity with no room for growth. Devoting lanes to transit is the only longterm solution to handle surface travel through these corridors. Adoption of dedicated bus lanes has resulted in an increased adoption of bus ridership and a reduction in travel time for bus riders.

Uh, DC is actually a lot smaller than it used to be. Currently we have about 670,000 people. In the 1970s, we had more than 750,000 people. In the 1950s, we had more than 800,000. DC's population has shrunk pretty dramatically from when I was a kid.

The region in general has grown though. To pretend that Georgia Avenue and NH and Connecticut are not commuting routes is silly.

There are commuting routes, which is why it is bizarre to try to squeeze car traffic on them. Do you think the government employee who lives way out in the burbs is going to switch to busses because of this? No, they will not. They will turn on Waze and take a different route through side streets that were never designed to handle thousands of commuters.

True! Which is why Georgia Avenue is exactly the right place to put bus-only lanes. Because it's a commuting route. The bus-only lanes will greatly benefit commuters.

(Unless you think "commuter" means driver. But it doesn't.)

We'll make life miserable for hundreds of thousands of commuters who drive in order to make life slightly better for the tens of hundreds who take the bus.

Your numbers are wrong. Also, if the drivers are so miserable, and life is better for bus riders, I have an idea: try the bus.

People have tried the bus. They don't want it. Look at the ridership numbers. People have voted with their feet. The number of people driving in this city is way up and the number of people on the bus is in the toilet.

The people who ride buses are also people.

Nobody is forcing you to ride any bus. You will always be free to sit in your car and be miserable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The good news about the dedicated bus lane is that it DOES come with increased enforcement of laws - the cameras on buses will ticket the double parked scofflaws. Win win.

Can you recommend to this non-biker the best bike rack for my car that will block my license plate?

Thule Trailways XT from Dick’s. If you have an SUV. Remove your front plate

I buy very used children’s bikes at garage sales and keep one on the rack at all times so no camera can capture the image of the back plate. If the bike gets stolen, NBD because it was $16. So far no one has stolen it although I leave it on the rack when parked on the street etc

Scofflaw driver.

This is true. I am tired of 25 mph on arterials. Now I don't have to go 24 to avoid tickets. I'm also tired of bus lanes without buses in them 22.75 hours a day. Now I can use these empty lanes with my car, just like I used to before the Vision Impossible bros took over DOT

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love it; bring it to more of the major streets. Thanks DDOT!

Seems like this makes the streets more dangerous, not less.

Drivers aren't going to sit in traffic, and they're not going to switch to the bus. This will just shift traffic onto all the smaller streets around Georgia Avenue. How is that better?

Seems like it's better to focus traffic on big roads where everyone expects there to be lots of cars. I would be pissed if I lived in a neighborhood near Georgia.

As I type this, I'm sitting on my porch watching traffic whiz by at 35 mph on my narrow residential street. They are bailing off of two designated arterial roads that have been choked down to comical speeds due to road narrowing and "traffic calming" measures that reduce speeds to 7 mph.

DOT doesn't give a shit about this city-wide phenomenon that is spreading. The kids walking home from schools on residential streets right now (3:26 pm) are pesky collateral damage. They get to dodge the cars that should be on, say, Connecticut or Wisconsin or South Dakota but is instead on 36th st NW or 13th st NE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The good news about the dedicated bus lane is that it DOES come with increased enforcement of laws - the cameras on buses will ticket the double parked scofflaws. Win win.

Can you recommend to this non-biker the best bike rack for my car that will block my license plate?

Thule Trailways XT from Dick’s. If you have an SUV. Remove your front plate

I buy very used children’s bikes at garage sales and keep one on the rack at all times so no camera can capture the image of the back plate. If the bike gets stolen, NBD because it was $16. So far no one has stolen it although I leave it on the rack when parked on the street etc

Scofflaw driver.

This is true. I am tired of 25 mph on arterials. Now I don't have to go 24 to avoid tickets. I'm also tired of bus lanes without buses in them 22.75 hours a day. Now I can use these empty lanes with my car, just like I used to before the Vision Impossible bros took over DOT

If you don't want to obey the law when you drive, then you shouldn't drive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love it; bring it to more of the major streets. Thanks DDOT!

Seems like this makes the streets more dangerous, not less.

Drivers aren't going to sit in traffic, and they're not going to switch to the bus. This will just shift traffic onto all the smaller streets around Georgia Avenue. How is that better?

Seems like it's better to focus traffic on big roads where everyone expects there to be lots of cars. I would be pissed if I lived in a neighborhood near Georgia.

As I type this, I'm sitting on my porch watching traffic whiz by at 35 mph on my narrow residential street. They are bailing off of two designated arterial roads that have been choked down to comical speeds due to road narrowing and "traffic calming" measures that reduce speeds to 7 mph.

DOT doesn't give a shit about this city-wide phenomenon that is spreading. The kids walking home from schools on residential streets right now (3:26 pm) are pesky collateral damage. They get to dodge the cars that should be on, say, Connecticut or Wisconsin or South Dakota but is instead on 36th st NW or 13th st NE.

Kids walk there too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The good news about the dedicated bus lane is that it DOES come with increased enforcement of laws - the cameras on buses will ticket the double parked scofflaws. Win win.

Can you recommend to this non-biker the best bike rack for my car that will block my license plate?

Thule Trailways XT from Dick’s. If you have an SUV. Remove your front plate

I buy very used children’s bikes at garage sales and keep one on the rack at all times so no camera can capture the image of the back plate. If the bike gets stolen, NBD because it was $16. So far no one has stolen it although I leave it on the rack when parked on the street etc

Scofflaw driver.

This is true. I am tired of 25 mph on arterials. Now I don't have to go 24 to avoid tickets. I'm also tired of bus lanes without buses in them 22.75 hours a day. Now I can use these empty lanes with my car, just like I used to before the Vision Impossible bros took over DOT

If you don't want to obey the law when you drive, then you shouldn't drive.

If you want them to obey the law, then get some police to enforce it, and stop relying on the better behavior of the majority to provide marginal improvement when the real societal benefit of the associated regulation only comes with compliance (and we have not encouraged, well enough, societal norms for doing so).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The good news about the dedicated bus lane is that it DOES come with increased enforcement of laws - the cameras on buses will ticket the double parked scofflaws. Win win.

Can you recommend to this non-biker the best bike rack for my car that will block my license plate?

Thule Trailways XT from Dick’s. If you have an SUV. Remove your front plate

I buy very used children’s bikes at garage sales and keep one on the rack at all times so no camera can capture the image of the back plate. If the bike gets stolen, NBD because it was $16. So far no one has stolen it although I leave it on the rack when parked on the street etc

Scofflaw driver.

This is true. I am tired of 25 mph on arterials. Now I don't have to go 24 to avoid tickets. I'm also tired of bus lanes without buses in them 22.75 hours a day. Now I can use these empty lanes with my car, just like I used to before the Vision Impossible bros took over DOT

If you don't want to obey the law when you drive, then you shouldn't drive.

Says the bicyclist who ignores every single traffic law.

Reminder: Bicyclists are only allowed to ignore stop signs if no one else at all is at an intersection, including pedestrians on the sidewalk. If anyone else is at the intersection, you have to stop at stop signs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love it; bring it to more of the major streets. Thanks DDOT!

Seems like this makes the streets more dangerous, not less.

Drivers aren't going to sit in traffic, and they're not going to switch to the bus. This will just shift traffic onto all the smaller streets around Georgia Avenue. How is that better?

Seems like it's better to focus traffic on big roads where everyone expects there to be lots of cars. I would be pissed if I lived in a neighborhood near Georgia.

As I type this, I'm sitting on my porch watching traffic whiz by at 35 mph on my narrow residential street. They are bailing off of two designated arterial roads that have been choked down to comical speeds due to road narrowing and "traffic calming" measures that reduce speeds to 7 mph.

DOT doesn't give a shit about this city-wide phenomenon that is spreading. The kids walking home from schools on residential streets right now (3:26 pm) are pesky collateral damage. They get to dodge the cars that should be on, say, Connecticut or Wisconsin or South Dakota but is instead on 36th st NW or 13th st NE.

It's really upsetting. We tell our kids to walk on side streets and away from busy roads. But those now those side streets will have tons of traffic because everyone will try to avoid Georgia Avenue. Where are the kids supposed to walk?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love it; bring it to more of the major streets. Thanks DDOT!

Seems like this makes the streets more dangerous, not less.

Drivers aren't going to sit in traffic, and they're not going to switch to the bus. This will just shift traffic onto all the smaller streets around Georgia Avenue. How is that better?

Seems like it's better to focus traffic on big roads where everyone expects there to be lots of cars. I would be pissed if I lived in a neighborhood near Georgia.

As I type this, I'm sitting on my porch watching traffic whiz by at 35 mph on my narrow residential street. They are bailing off of two designated arterial roads that have been choked down to comical speeds due to road narrowing and "traffic calming" measures that reduce speeds to 7 mph.

DOT doesn't give a shit about this city-wide phenomenon that is spreading. The kids walking home from schools on residential streets right now (3:26 pm) are pesky collateral damage. They get to dodge the cars that should be on, say, Connecticut or Wisconsin or South Dakota but is instead on 36th st NW or 13th st NE.

This is what happens when your government is run by unaccountable ideologues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love it; bring it to more of the major streets. Thanks DDOT!

Seems like this makes the streets more dangerous, not less.

Drivers aren't going to sit in traffic, and they're not going to switch to the bus. This will just shift traffic onto all the smaller streets around Georgia Avenue. How is that better?

Seems like it's better to focus traffic on big roads where everyone expects there to be lots of cars. I would be pissed if I lived in a neighborhood near Georgia.

As I type this, I'm sitting on my porch watching traffic whiz by at 35 mph on my narrow residential street. They are bailing off of two designated arterial roads that have been choked down to comical speeds due to road narrowing and "traffic calming" measures that reduce speeds to 7 mph.

DOT doesn't give a shit about this city-wide phenomenon that is spreading. The kids walking home from schools on residential streets right now (3:26 pm) are pesky collateral damage. They get to dodge the cars that should be on, say, Connecticut or Wisconsin or South Dakota but is instead on 36th st NW or 13th st NE.

It's really upsetting. We tell our kids to walk on side streets and away from busy roads. But those now those side streets will have tons of traffic because everyone will try to avoid Georgia Avenue. Where are the kids supposed to walk?

On streets that don't have speeding scofflaw drivers - which should be all streets. Shouldn't "arterial" streets be just as safe for kids as "side" streets?

[Anonymous]

Told youse this was coming

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The good news about the dedicated bus lane is that it DOES come with increased enforcement of laws - the cameras on buses will ticket the double parked scofflaws. Win win.

Can you recommend to this non-biker the best bike rack for my car that will block my license plate?

Thule Trailways XT from Dick’s. If you have an SUV. Remove your front plate

I buy very used children’s bikes at garage sales and keep one on the rack at all times so no camera can capture the image of the back plate. If the bike gets stolen, NBD because it was $16. So far no one has stolen it although I leave it on the rack when parked on the street etc

Scofflaw driver.

This is true. I am tired of 25 mph on arterials. Now I don't have to go 24 to avoid tickets. I'm also tired of bus lanes without buses in them 22.75 hours a day. Now I can use these empty lanes with my car, just like I used to before the Vision Impossible bros took over DOT

If you don't want to obey the law when you drive, then you shouldn't drive.

Says the bicyclist who ignores every single traffic law.

Reminder: Bicyclists are only allowed to ignore stop signs if no one else at all is at an intersection, including pedestrians on the sidewalk. If anyone else is at the intersection, you have to stop at stop signs.

You what now? You're the scofflaw driver, right? With a driver's license and a registered motor vehicle? First cast out the beam out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to cast the mote out of your brother's (bicyclist's) eye.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love it; bring it to more of the major streets. Thanks DDOT!

Seems like this makes the streets more dangerous, not less.

Drivers aren't going to sit in traffic, and they're not going to switch to the bus. This will just shift traffic onto all the smaller streets around Georgia Avenue. How is that better?

Seems like it's better to focus traffic on big roads where everyone expects there to be lots of cars. I would be pissed if I lived in a neighborhood near Georgia.

As I type this, I'm sitting on my porch watching traffic whiz by at 35 mph on my narrow residential street. They are bailing off of two designated arterial roads that have been choked down to comical speeds due to road narrowing and "traffic calming" measures that reduce speeds to 7 mph.

DOT doesn't give a shit about this city-wide phenomenon that is spreading. The kids walking home from schools on residential streets right now (3:26 pm) are pesky collateral damage. They get to dodge the cars that should be on, say, Connecticut or Wisconsin or South Dakota but is instead on 36th st NW or 13th st NE.

13th ST. NE was an artery before you moved in. Just because it looked like it wasn't when you looked at your house doesn't mean it wasn't.