Bethesda Magazine 2024 College Acceptances Out

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting. A couple of things stood out to me.

The outer pointlessness of applying to Harvard - 4/293. That's ridiculous. Save your $85 and have a nice meal.

What a great safety Indiana is - 232/322. Totally underrated school.

And how challenging Vanderbilt is - 12/233. And Duke - 17/368.

It's tough out there.




Grade inflation. So many kids get very, very high grades in MCPS. Anything 89.5% is an A. Quarters are averaged so that an A and B equal an A. It's really hard to do poorly if you're a kid who cares at all. Hence you have almost 400 kids applying to Duke


So true.
Meanwhile 3 kids from a small private get in…


There's an article in today's NY Times about how the most common college that girls at Brearley (fancy NYC private school) matriculate to is Harvard. So much has to do with preferences for legacies and big donors.


Or maybe it has to do with girls from Bradley are known to be prepared for Harvard level work. In the meantime kids in MoCo are given As for effort. Sick of the hate on this board for private schools. Your public schools are failing your children and overinflating parents egos


There's plenty of qualified kids applying to elite colleges. But if a private school has Rupert Murdoch and Caroline Kennedy as typical parents of students, you're naive to be comparing them to the average MoCo student.


Isn’t Rupert Murdoch 93 years old?

He has kids from his 3rd (4th?) wife who are just finishing college. So he's been a high school parent more recently than Caroline Kennedy.
https://people.com/human-interest/all-about-the-murdoch-family/
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Anonymous wrote:So to compare apples to apples, here is last year compared to this year for the USNWR top 20 schools.

Brown, Cal Tech, Dartmouth, and Chicago were all up from last year.

Down were Duke, Harvard, Rice, UCLA, Michigan, and Yale.

The rest were around the same.

Bottom line, despite the horrible track record of MCPS, the top students continue to matriculate to top schools at around the same rate.

College Applications/Acceptances/Matriculations

Brown 2023: 389/16/9 2024: 343/24/21
CalTech 2023: 73/3/3 2024: 71/7/3
Columbia 2023: 328/16/7 2024: 350/9/7
Cornell 2023: 499/52/35 2024: 447/54/41
Dartmouth 2023: 154/6/2 2024: 171/11/7
Duke 2023: 346/36/16 2024: 368/17/15
Harvard 2023: 302/11/6 2024: 193/4/4
Hopkins 2023: 422/34/20 2024: 483/34/22
MIT 2023: 197/12/10 2024: 195/11/11
Northwestern 2023: 343/29/17 2024: 313/27/16
Princeton 2023: 307/17/12 2024: 291/16/13
Rice 2023: 120/20/6 2024: 101/9/2
Stanford 2023: 295/12/9 2024: 248/8/5
Berkeley 2023: 320/13/3 2024: 206/15/0
UCLA 2023: 326/38/10 2024: 261/23/7

Chicago 2023: 221/8/6 2024: 194/16/15
Michigan 2023: 651/107/49 2024: 674/89/43
Notre Dame 2023: 79/5/2 2024: 83/5/3
Penn 2023: 518/30/26 2024: 572/34/22
Yale 2023: 307/19/10 2024: 318/11/9


Odd that Berkeley's acceptance rate (4.0 and 7.2%) is significantly lower than UCLA's acceptance rate (7.1 and 11.3%).
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Anonymous wrote:I would not rely on this for accuracy. I know a kid attending an Ivy from an HS that shows no acceptances from that school. Pretty sure a second kid from the same HS is also attending that same Ivy.


Those students may have had hooks. Our high school does not include students who got accepted with a hook (athletic, URM, etc).


So if the only student at your school accepted to Princeton was Latina your school would report 0? DCUM posters just make up anything.


Exactly. Imagine the backlash.lol









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Anonymous wrote:How are these stats reported? Naviance shows far better Ivy outcomes for our high school than reported in this guide. Which would you believe?


Any similar data for FCPS.
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On the more than 50% with weighted 4.0 or higher: it's a reflection of the absurd grade inflation in MCPS, but it's also not the relevant stat for those applying to T25, probably even T50 or beyond, schools. MCPS has neither plusses nor minuses. AND it gives a 1 point bump for a massive number of classes -- anything labeled Honors, Advanced, AP or IB all get the same exact, 1-point bump. So a weighted 4.0 can easily mean that the kid is largely a B student -- and one who took mostly Honors level classes and very few APs.

Since it's such a big district, every admissions office at the schools that regularly draw from MCPS knows this, and they are evaluating transcripts in that light. The weighted GPA is, for competitive schools, just not that relevant -- what matters is the UW GPA plus the level of rigor of classes the kids take.

And the value of a weighted 4.0 (or a W GPA in the low 4s) would be obvious to any MCPS kid who looks at scattergrams -- you need a way higher W GPA to even begin to be competitive for T50 schools.

And of course MCPS makes it impossible to know what % of the graduating class has an UW 4.0 or close to it.
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Adding to the posts commenting on accuracy here. For our school, I see a lot of universities where the accepted and enrolled numbers are way off. Use it directionally if you want but definitely not accurate.
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Anonymous wrote:On the more than 50% with weighted 4.0 or higher: it's a reflection of the absurd grade inflation in MCPS, but it's also not the relevant stat for those applying to T25, probably even T50 or beyond, schools. MCPS has neither plusses nor minuses. AND it gives a 1 point bump for a massive number of classes -- anything labeled Honors, Advanced, AP or IB all get the same exact, 1-point bump. So a weighted 4.0 can easily mean that the kid is largely a B student -- and one who took mostly Honors level classes and very few APs.

Since it's such a big district, every admissions office at the schools that regularly draw from MCPS knows this, and they are evaluating transcripts in that light. The weighted GPA is, for competitive schools, just not that relevant -- what matters is the UW GPA plus the level of rigor of classes the kids take.

And the value of a weighted 4.0 (or a W GPA in the low 4s) would be obvious to any MCPS kid who looks at scattergrams -- you need a way higher W GPA to even begin to be competitive for T50 schools.

And of course MCPS makes it impossible to know what % of the graduating class has an UW 4.0 or close to it.


Thanks for writing this out. I think this stat was a confusing piece of the article. In our HS it is pretty rare to have the most challenging coursework and an UW 4.0, but that is anecdata.
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My HS way way way back in the 1970s was rated the Number one HS Public or Private with Ivy League Acceptances and T20 Acceptance.

Back then we did GPA on 1-100. And everything counted. Homework, attendance even electives like Shop Class, Cooking, and APs carried no additional weight.

Impossible to get a perfect grade. Well unless you are perfect at everything including woodworking, drivers Ed, Cooking, Art, Gym. They scored everything.
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I know with certainty that at least one entry for WJ is wrong and I know my kid submitted all the paperwork.
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Anonymous wrote:So to compare apples to apples, here is last year compared to this year for the USNWR top 20 schools.

Brown, Cal Tech, Dartmouth, and Chicago were all up from last year.

Down were Duke, Harvard, Rice, UCLA, Michigan, and Yale.

The rest were around the same.

Bottom line, despite the horrible track record of MCPS, the top students continue to matriculate to top schools at around the same rate.

College Applications/Acceptances/Matriculations

Brown 2023: 389/16/9 2024: 343/24/21
CalTech 2023: 73/3/3 2024: 71/7/3
Columbia 2023: 328/16/7 2024: 350/9/7
Cornell 2023: 499/52/35 2024: 447/54/41
Dartmouth 2023: 154/6/2 2024: 171/11/7
Duke 2023: 346/36/16 2024: 368/17/15
Harvard 2023: 302/11/6 2024: 193/4/4
Hopkins 2023: 422/34/20 2024: 483/34/22
MIT 2023: 197/12/10 2024: 195/11/11
Northwestern 2023: 343/29/17 2024: 313/27/16
Princeton 2023: 307/17/12 2024: 291/16/13
Rice 2023: 120/20/6 2024: 101/9/2
Stanford 2023: 295/12/9 2024: 248/8/5
Berkeley 2023: 320/13/3 2024: 206/15/0
UCLA 2023: 326/38/10 2024: 261/23/7

Chicago 2023: 221/8/6 2024: 194/16/15
Michigan 2023: 651/107/49 2024: 674/89/43
Notre Dame 2023: 79/5/2 2024: 83/5/3
Penn 2023: 518/30/26 2024: 572/34/22
Yale 2023: 307/19/10 2024: 318/11/9


Odd that Berkeley's acceptance rate (4.0 and 7.2%) is significantly lower than UCLA's acceptance rate (7.1 and 11.3%).

Berkeley has significantly tougher programs when it comes to EECS and the business/engineering program.
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For T25 schools
Cornell, Georgetown, Emory, Hopkins, and Brown had the highest enrollment with 20+. Students.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So to compare apples to apples, here is last year compared to this year for the USNWR top 20 schools.

Brown, Cal Tech, Dartmouth, and Chicago were all up from last year.

Down were Duke, Harvard, Rice, UCLA, Michigan, and Yale.

The rest were around the same.

Bottom line, despite the horrible track record of MCPS, the top students continue to matriculate to top schools at around the same rate.

College Applications/Acceptances/Matriculations

Brown 2023: 389/16/9 2024: 343/24/21
CalTech 2023: 73/3/3 2024: 71/7/3
Columbia 2023: 328/16/7 2024: 350/9/7
Cornell 2023: 499/52/35 2024: 447/54/41
Dartmouth 2023: 154/6/2 2024: 171/11/7
Duke 2023: 346/36/16 2024: 368/17/15
Harvard 2023: 302/11/6 2024: 193/4/4
Hopkins 2023: 422/34/20 2024: 483/34/22
MIT 2023: 197/12/10 2024: 195/11/11
Northwestern 2023: 343/29/17 2024: 313/27/16
Princeton 2023: 307/17/12 2024: 291/16/13
Rice 2023: 120/20/6 2024: 101/9/2
Stanford 2023: 295/12/9 2024: 248/8/5
Berkeley 2023: 320/13/3 2024: 206/15/0
UCLA 2023: 326/38/10 2024: 261/23/7

Chicago 2023: 221/8/6 2024: 194/16/15
Michigan 2023: 651/107/49 2024: 674/89/43
Notre Dame 2023: 79/5/2 2024: 83/5/3
Penn 2023: 518/30/26 2024: 572/34/22
Yale 2023: 307/19/10 2024: 318/11/9


Odd that Berkeley's acceptance rate (4.0 and 7.2%) is significantly lower than UCLA's acceptance rate (7.1 and 11.3%).


Not remotely odd
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Anonymous wrote:For T25 schools
Cornell, Georgetown, Emory, Hopkins, and Brown had the highest enrollment with 20+. Students.


yeah, for all the shit Cornell gets on this forum, its amazing how many MoCo kids attend.
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Anonymous wrote:For T25 schools
Cornell, Georgetown, Emory, Hopkins, and Brown had the highest enrollment with 20+. Students.


yeah, for all the shit Cornell gets on this forum, its amazing how many MoCo kids attend.


You can't go to the schools you don't get into.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Interesting. A couple of things stood out to me.

The outer pointlessness of applying to Harvard - 4/293. That's ridiculous. Save your $85 and have a nice meal.

What a great safety Indiana is - 232/322. Totally underrated school.

And how challenging Vanderbilt is - 12/233. And Duke - 17/368.

It's tough out there.


No way. Nearly every thread includes a plug for IU. It's become the new Wisconsin.
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