Artem Chigvintsev (Nikki Bella’s husband) charged with domestic violence

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Anonymous wrote:I see no post of mine where I said it was her fault she was abused. You are absolutely batsh*t. I can’t figure out why you’re hell bent on continuing that narrative that I am blaming Nikki. I said she should leave the guy. I hope she does and I hope they both get help. Multiple posters aren’t calling me out - it’s simply you.

I will continue to stand by my opinion.

Absolutely multiple posts. I did. And haven’t posted in a while. Deal with it. You were wrong. And continue to be, when you say it’s not that deep. It is actually. It’s complicated, nuanced and deep.

You need help. Nikki should leave Artem. I am curious who bailed him out too.

Whether she should leave him is a separate issue from the gross victim blaming. We all hope there’s no abuse to begin with, and that the relationship ends if there is. But to act like this isn’t a complicated issue is just stupid.

Once again you’ve misunderstood me. I didn’t say this situation with Nikki and Artem isn’t complicated. I meant that what I posted wasn’t complicated (or not that deep). I keep saying she should leave him and you keep saying I’m victim blaming. Me simply stating she should leave him isn’t complicated. My intentions are clear. You have been reading way too much into my statements on a message board.

And once again you are responding to multiple people.

Great! Well maybe now everyone can see clearly what I mean.

Maybe you’ll understand why some people wish the initial and remaining focus be on his violence for which he was arrested, and not her response to that violence and whether she “holds him accountable.”

Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion. It is not your place to tell me or anyone else how to respond to this particular situation. I will comment on her response to the situation if I want to. That doesn’t mean I blame her for any of this. I’m the OP of this thread. I won’t accept you continuing to tell me I’m “blaming the victim” after I’ve clearly explained myself and when you’ve even admitted that her leaving him and blaming the victim are two separate issues. Ask yourself why are so quick to ascribe negative intentions to my posts on an entertainment board after I’ve explained myself? You need help.

You need to calm down. You’re getting so worked up. You need to remain more accepting of other viewpoints when you post threads.

To have someone continually tell me I’m blaming a DV victim (when I’m clearly not) and say it’s “sickening” is odd. I’m going to have to assume you’re a troll at this point. Good day.

Again, you’re arguing with multiple people. Some PEOPLE are telling you that. I haven’t said anything was sickening but someone else might have. This cracks me up that you think you “own” a thread that you started with the incredibly thought-provoking, insightful, deep comment of “wow. Unbelievable.” Others actually want to discuss the complexity of domestic violence and you’re saying it’s just posts on an entertainment board. Good day indeed.[/quote

Since you pointed out the thread isn’t actually thought provoking or deep, it’s interesting you thought this was the right place to “discuss the complexities of DV.” Go to a DV forum if you want, but this thread isn’t for that. Cheers.

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Anonymous wrote:I see no post of mine where I said it was her fault she was abused. You are absolutely batsh*t. I can’t figure out why you’re hell bent on continuing that narrative that I am blaming Nikki. I said she should leave the guy. I hope she does and I hope they both get help. Multiple posters aren’t calling me out - it’s simply you.

I will continue to stand by my opinion.

Absolutely multiple posts. I did. And haven’t posted in a while. Deal with it. You were wrong. And continue to be, when you say it’s not that deep. It is actually. It’s complicated, nuanced and deep.

You need help. Nikki should leave Artem. I am curious who bailed him out too.

Whether she should leave him is a separate issue from the gross victim blaming. We all hope there’s no abuse to begin with, and that the relationship ends if there is. But to act like this isn’t a complicated issue is just stupid.

Once again you’ve misunderstood me. I didn’t say this situation with Nikki and Artem isn’t complicated. I meant that what I posted wasn’t complicated (or not that deep). I keep saying she should leave him and you keep saying I’m victim blaming. Me simply stating she should leave him isn’t complicated. My intentions are clear. You have been reading way too much into my statements on a message board.

And once again you are responding to multiple people.

Great! Well maybe now everyone can see clearly what I mean.

Maybe you’ll understand why some people wish the initial and remaining focus be on his violence for which he was arrested, and not her response to that violence and whether she “holds him accountable.”

Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion. It is not your place to tell me or anyone else how to respond to this particular situation. I will comment on her response to the situation if I want to. That doesn’t mean I blame her for any of this. I’m the OP of this thread. I won’t accept you continuing to tell me I’m “blaming the victim” after I’ve clearly explained myself and when you’ve even admitted that her leaving him and blaming the victim are two separate issues. Ask yourself why are so quick to ascribe negative intentions to my posts on an entertainment board after I’ve explained myself? You need help.

You need to calm down. You’re getting so worked up. You need to remain more accepting of other viewpoints when you post threads.

To have someone continually tell me I’m blaming a DV victim (when I’m clearly not) and say it’s “sickening” is odd. I’m going to have to assume you’re a troll at this point. Good day.

Again, you’re arguing with multiple people. Some PEOPLE are telling you that. I haven’t said anything was sickening but someone else might have. This cracks me up that you think you “own” a thread that you started with the incredibly thought-provoking, insightful, deep comment of “wow. Unbelievable.” Others actually want to discuss the complexity of domestic violence and you’re saying it’s just posts on an entertainment board. Good day indeed.[/quote

Since you pointed out the thread isn’t actually thought provoking or deep, it’s interesting you thought this was the right place to “discuss the complexities of DV.” Go to a DV forum if you want, but this thread isn’t for that. Cheers.

A thread announcing that someone was a victim of domestic violence isn't a thread for discussing domestic violence?? What exactly was the thread supposed to discuss then?? What she was wearing? It's not that the thread wasn't thought provoking or deep. It's that you aren't.

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Anonymous wrote:I see no post of mine where I said it was her fault she was abused. You are absolutely batsh*t. I can’t figure out why you’re hell bent on continuing that narrative that I am blaming Nikki. I said she should leave the guy. I hope she does and I hope they both get help. Multiple posters aren’t calling me out - it’s simply you.

I will continue to stand by my opinion.

Absolutely multiple posts. I did. And haven’t posted in a while. Deal with it. You were wrong. And continue to be, when you say it’s not that deep. It is actually. It’s complicated, nuanced and deep.

You need help. Nikki should leave Artem. I am curious who bailed him out too.

Whether she should leave him is a separate issue from the gross victim blaming. We all hope there’s no abuse to begin with, and that the relationship ends if there is. But to act like this isn’t a complicated issue is just stupid.

Once again you’ve misunderstood me. I didn’t say this situation with Nikki and Artem isn’t complicated. I meant that what I posted wasn’t complicated (or not that deep). I keep saying she should leave him and you keep saying I’m victim blaming. Me simply stating she should leave him isn’t complicated. My intentions are clear. You have been reading way too much into my statements on a message board.

And once again you are responding to multiple people.

Great! Well maybe now everyone can see clearly what I mean.

Maybe you’ll understand why some people wish the initial and remaining focus be on his violence for which he was arrested, and not her response to that violence and whether she “holds him accountable.”

Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion. It is not your place to tell me or anyone else how to respond to this particular situation. I will comment on her response to the situation if I want to. That doesn’t mean I blame her for any of this. I’m the OP of this thread. I won’t accept you continuing to tell me I’m “blaming the victim” after I’ve clearly explained myself and when you’ve even admitted that her leaving him and blaming the victim are two separate issues. Ask yourself why are so quick to ascribe negative intentions to my posts on an entertainment board after I’ve explained myself? You need help.

You need to calm down. You’re getting so worked up. You need to remain more accepting of other viewpoints when you post threads.

To have someone continually tell me I’m blaming a DV victim (when I’m clearly not) and say it’s “sickening” is odd. I’m going to have to assume you’re a troll at this point. Good day.

Again, you’re arguing with multiple people. Some PEOPLE are telling you that. I haven’t said anything was sickening but someone else might have. This cracks me up that you think you “own” a thread that you started with the incredibly thought-provoking, insightful, deep comment of “wow. Unbelievable.” Others actually want to discuss the complexity of domestic violence and you’re saying it’s just posts on an entertainment board. Good day indeed.[/quote

Since you pointed out the thread isn’t actually thought provoking or deep, it’s interesting you thought this was the right place to “discuss the complexities of DV.” Go to a DV forum if you want, but this thread isn’t for that. Cheers.

A thread announcing that someone was a victim of domestic violence isn't a thread for discussing domestic violence?? What exactly was the thread supposed to discuss then?? What she was wearing? It's not that the thread wasn't thought provoking or deep. It's that you aren't.

You’re all over the place now. You literally said the thread wasn’t deep and that others actually want to discuss the complexity of DV. But now it’s “not that the thread isn’t deep, but you aren’t.” I’m not deep but somehow you’ve ascribed hidden meanings and intentions to my words all throughout this thread even though I’m “not deep.”if I’m not deep then you should take me at face value when I said I wanted to see how Nikki responds but I am not blaming her for being abused. This is a freaking gossip thread regarding 2 celebrities on an entertainment forum. If you want to go deep on DV, find a support group.

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Anonymous wrote:I see no post of mine where I said it was her fault she was abused. You are absolutely batsh*t. I can’t figure out why you’re hell bent on continuing that narrative that I am blaming Nikki. I said she should leave the guy. I hope she does and I hope they both get help. Multiple posters aren’t calling me out - it’s simply you.

I will continue to stand by my opinion.

Absolutely multiple posts. I did. And haven’t posted in a while. Deal with it. You were wrong. And continue to be, when you say it’s not that deep. It is actually. It’s complicated, nuanced and deep.

You need help. Nikki should leave Artem. I am curious who bailed him out too.

Whether she should leave him is a separate issue from the gross victim blaming. We all hope there’s no abuse to begin with, and that the relationship ends if there is. But to act like this isn’t a complicated issue is just stupid.

Once again you’ve misunderstood me. I didn’t say this situation with Nikki and Artem isn’t complicated. I meant that what I posted wasn’t complicated (or not that deep). I keep saying she should leave him and you keep saying I’m victim blaming. Me simply stating she should leave him isn’t complicated. My intentions are clear. You have been reading way too much into my statements on a message board.

And once again you are responding to multiple people.

Great! Well maybe now everyone can see clearly what I mean.

Maybe you’ll understand why some people wish the initial and remaining focus be on his violence for which he was arrested, and not her response to that violence and whether she “holds him accountable.”

Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion. It is not your place to tell me or anyone else how to respond to this particular situation. I will comment on her response to the situation if I want to. That doesn’t mean I blame her for any of this. I’m the OP of this thread. I won’t accept you continuing to tell me I’m “blaming the victim” after I’ve clearly explained myself and when you’ve even admitted that her leaving him and blaming the victim are two separate issues. Ask yourself why are so quick to ascribe negative intentions to my posts on an entertainment board after I’ve explained myself? You need help.

You need to calm down. You’re getting so worked up. You need to remain more accepting of other viewpoints when you post threads.

To have someone continually tell me I’m blaming a DV victim (when I’m clearly not) and say it’s “sickening” is odd. I’m going to have to assume you’re a troll at this point. Good day.

Again, you’re arguing with multiple people. Some PEOPLE are telling you that. I haven’t said anything was sickening but someone else might have. This cracks me up that you think you “own” a thread that you started with the incredibly thought-provoking, insightful, deep comment of “wow. Unbelievable.” Others actually want to discuss the complexity of domestic violence and you’re saying it’s just posts on an entertainment board. Good day indeed.[/quote

Since you pointed out the thread isn’t actually thought provoking or deep, it’s interesting you thought this was the right place to “discuss the complexities of DV.” Go to a DV forum if you want, but this thread isn’t for that. Cheers.

A thread announcing that someone was a victim of domestic violence isn't a thread for discussing domestic violence?? What exactly was the thread supposed to discuss then?? What she was wearing? It's not that the thread wasn't thought provoking or deep. It's that you aren't.

Hold on. This thread never announced a victim. It simply started with Artem’s arrest and a bunch of speculation.

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Anonymous wrote:I see no post of mine where I said it was her fault she was abused. You are absolutely batsh*t. I can’t figure out why you’re hell bent on continuing that narrative that I am blaming Nikki. I said she should leave the guy. I hope she does and I hope they both get help. Multiple posters aren’t calling me out - it’s simply you.

I will continue to stand by my opinion.

Absolutely multiple posts. I did. And haven’t posted in a while. Deal with it. You were wrong. And continue to be, when you say it’s not that deep. It is actually. It’s complicated, nuanced and deep.

You need help. Nikki should leave Artem. I am curious who bailed him out too.

Whether she should leave him is a separate issue from the gross victim blaming. We all hope there’s no abuse to begin with, and that the relationship ends if there is. But to act like this isn’t a complicated issue is just stupid.

Once again you’ve misunderstood me. I didn’t say this situation with Nikki and Artem isn’t complicated. I meant that what I posted wasn’t complicated (or not that deep). I keep saying she should leave him and you keep saying I’m victim blaming. Me simply stating she should leave him isn’t complicated. My intentions are clear. You have been reading way too much into my statements on a message board.

And once again you are responding to multiple people.

Great! Well maybe now everyone can see clearly what I mean.

Maybe you’ll understand why some people wish the initial and remaining focus be on his violence for which he was arrested, and not her response to that violence and whether she “holds him accountable.”

Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion. It is not your place to tell me or anyone else how to respond to this particular situation. I will comment on her response to the situation if I want to. That doesn’t mean I blame her for any of this. I’m the OP of this thread. I won’t accept you continuing to tell me I’m “blaming the victim” after I’ve clearly explained myself and when you’ve even admitted that her leaving him and blaming the victim are two separate issues. Ask yourself why are so quick to ascribe negative intentions to my posts on an entertainment board after I’ve explained myself? You need help.

You need to calm down. You’re getting so worked up. You need to remain more accepting of other viewpoints when you post threads.

To have someone continually tell me I’m blaming a DV victim (when I’m clearly not) and say it’s “sickening” is odd. I’m going to have to assume you’re a troll at this point. Good day.

Again, you’re arguing with multiple people. Some PEOPLE are telling you that. I haven’t said anything was sickening but someone else might have. This cracks me up that you think you “own” a thread that you started with the incredibly thought-provoking, insightful, deep comment of “wow. Unbelievable.” Others actually want to discuss the complexity of domestic violence and you’re saying it’s just posts on an entertainment board. Good day indeed.[/quote

Since you pointed out the thread isn’t actually thought provoking or deep, it’s interesting you thought this was the right place to “discuss the complexities of DV.” Go to a DV forum if you want, but this thread isn’t for that. Cheers.

A thread announcing that someone was a victim of domestic violence isn't a thread for discussing domestic violence?? What exactly was the thread supposed to discuss then?? What she was wearing? It's not that the thread wasn't thought provoking or deep. It's that you aren't.

Hold on. This thread never announced a victim. It simply started with Artem’s arrest and a bunch of speculation.

Uh, the thread is about someone being arrested for domestic violence. Did he harm himself? He was arrested for causing harm to a spouse. It's widely reported it's her, whether the original thread named her or not. But it did. It says in the title. Nikki Bella's husband. She's the spouse of someone arrested for spousal abuse. I mean, in my world 1 + 1 = 2

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Anonymous wrote:I see no post of mine where I said it was her fault she was abused. You are absolutely batsh*t. I can’t figure out why you’re hell bent on continuing that narrative that I am blaming Nikki. I said she should leave the guy. I hope she does and I hope they both get help. Multiple posters aren’t calling me out - it’s simply you.

I will continue to stand by my opinion.

Absolutely multiple posts. I did. And haven’t posted in a while. Deal with it. You were wrong. And continue to be, when you say it’s not that deep. It is actually. It’s complicated, nuanced and deep.

You need help. Nikki should leave Artem. I am curious who bailed him out too.

Whether she should leave him is a separate issue from the gross victim blaming. We all hope there’s no abuse to begin with, and that the relationship ends if there is. But to act like this isn’t a complicated issue is just stupid.

Once again you’ve misunderstood me. I didn’t say this situation with Nikki and Artem isn’t complicated. I meant that what I posted wasn’t complicated (or not that deep). I keep saying she should leave him and you keep saying I’m victim blaming. Me simply stating she should leave him isn’t complicated. My intentions are clear. You have been reading way too much into my statements on a message board.

And once again you are responding to multiple people.

Great! Well maybe now everyone can see clearly what I mean.

Maybe you’ll understand why some people wish the initial and remaining focus be on his violence for which he was arrested, and not her response to that violence and whether she “holds him accountable.”

Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion. It is not your place to tell me or anyone else how to respond to this particular situation. I will comment on her response to the situation if I want to. That doesn’t mean I blame her for any of this. I’m the OP of this thread. I won’t accept you continuing to tell me I’m “blaming the victim” after I’ve clearly explained myself and when you’ve even admitted that her leaving him and blaming the victim are two separate issues. Ask yourself why are so quick to ascribe negative intentions to my posts on an entertainment board after I’ve explained myself? You need help.

You need to calm down. You’re getting so worked up. You need to remain more accepting of other viewpoints when you post threads.

To have someone continually tell me I’m blaming a DV victim (when I’m clearly not) and say it’s “sickening” is odd. I’m going to have to assume you’re a troll at this point. Good day.

Again, you’re arguing with multiple people. Some PEOPLE are telling you that. I haven’t said anything was sickening but someone else might have. This cracks me up that you think you “own” a thread that you started with the incredibly thought-provoking, insightful, deep comment of “wow. Unbelievable.” Others actually want to discuss the complexity of domestic violence and you’re saying it’s just posts on an entertainment board. Good day indeed.[/quote

Since you pointed out the thread isn’t actually thought provoking or deep, it’s interesting you thought this was the right place to “discuss the complexities of DV.” Go to a DV forum if you want, but this thread isn’t for that. Cheers.

A thread announcing that someone was a victim of domestic violence isn't a thread for discussing domestic violence?? What exactly was the thread supposed to discuss then?? What she was wearing? It's not that the thread wasn't thought provoking or deep. It's that you aren't.

You’re all over the place now. You literally said the thread wasn’t deep and that others actually want to discuss the complexity of DV. But now it’s “not that the thread isn’t deep, but you aren’t.” I’m not deep but somehow you’ve ascribed hidden meanings and intentions to my words all throughout this thread even though I’m “not deep.”if I’m not deep then you should take me at face value when I said I wanted to see how Nikki responds but I am not blaming her for being abused. This is a freaking gossip thread regarding 2 celebrities on an entertainment forum. If you want to go deep on DV, find a support group.

You are not that smart. I said YOUR COMMENT THAT STARTED THIS THREAD wasn't deep. Your comment of "Wow. Unbelievable." I mean, if you think that's deep, more power to you. The thread is about domestic violence. It's in the title that you wrote. If that's lighthearted gossip and entertainment to you, perhaps you're the one with the issues.

Please, enlighten us about what's gossipy and entertaining about someone experiencing felony domestic violence. I'll wait. Should be super fun!!!

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Anonymous wrote:I see no post of mine where I said it was her fault she was abused. You are absolutely batsh*t. I can’t figure out why you’re hell bent on continuing that narrative that I am blaming Nikki. I said she should leave the guy. I hope she does and I hope they both get help. Multiple posters aren’t calling me out - it’s simply you.

I will continue to stand by my opinion.

Absolutely multiple posts. I did. And haven’t posted in a while. Deal with it. You were wrong. And continue to be, when you say it’s not that deep. It is actually. It’s complicated, nuanced and deep.

You need help. Nikki should leave Artem. I am curious who bailed him out too.

Whether she should leave him is a separate issue from the gross victim blaming. We all hope there’s no abuse to begin with, and that the relationship ends if there is. But to act like this isn’t a complicated issue is just stupid.

Once again you’ve misunderstood me. I didn’t say this situation with Nikki and Artem isn’t complicated. I meant that what I posted wasn’t complicated (or not that deep). I keep saying she should leave him and you keep saying I’m victim blaming. Me simply stating she should leave him isn’t complicated. My intentions are clear. You have been reading way too much into my statements on a message board.

And once again you are responding to multiple people.

Great! Well maybe now everyone can see clearly what I mean.

Maybe you’ll understand why some people wish the initial and remaining focus be on his violence for which he was arrested, and not her response to that violence and whether she “holds him accountable.”

Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion. It is not your place to tell me or anyone else how to respond to this particular situation. I will comment on her response to the situation if I want to. That doesn’t mean I blame her for any of this. I’m the OP of this thread. I won’t accept you continuing to tell me I’m “blaming the victim” after I’ve clearly explained myself and when you’ve even admitted that her leaving him and blaming the victim are two separate issues. Ask yourself why are so quick to ascribe negative intentions to my posts on an entertainment board after I’ve explained myself? You need help.

You need to calm down. You’re getting so worked up. You need to remain more accepting of other viewpoints when you post threads.

To have someone continually tell me I’m blaming a DV victim (when I’m clearly not) and say it’s “sickening” is odd. I’m going to have to assume you’re a troll at this point. Good day.

Again, you’re arguing with multiple people. Some PEOPLE are telling you that. I haven’t said anything was sickening but someone else might have. This cracks me up that you think you “own” a thread that you started with the incredibly thought-provoking, insightful, deep comment of “wow. Unbelievable.” Others actually want to discuss the complexity of domestic violence and you’re saying it’s just posts on an entertainment board. Good day indeed.[/quote

Since you pointed out the thread isn’t actually thought provoking or deep, it’s interesting you thought this was the right place to “discuss the complexities of DV.” Go to a DV forum if you want, but this thread isn’t for that. Cheers.

A thread announcing that someone was a victim of domestic violence isn't a thread for discussing domestic violence?? What exactly was the thread supposed to discuss then?? What she was wearing? It's not that the thread wasn't thought provoking or deep. It's that you aren't.

You’re all over the place now. You literally said the thread wasn’t deep and that others actually want to discuss the complexity of DV. But now it’s “not that the thread isn’t deep, but you aren’t.” I’m not deep but somehow you’ve ascribed hidden meanings and intentions to my words all throughout this thread even though I’m “not deep.”if I’m not deep then you should take me at face value when I said I wanted to see how Nikki responds but I am not blaming her for being abused. This is a freaking gossip thread regarding 2 celebrities on an entertainment forum. If you want to go deep on DV, find a support group.

You are not that smart. I said YOUR COMMENT THAT STARTED THIS THREAD wasn't deep. Your comment of "Wow. Unbelievable." I mean, if you think that's deep, more power to you. The thread is about domestic violence. It's in the title that you wrote. If that's lighthearted gossip and entertainment to you, perhaps you're the one with the issues.

Please, enlighten us about what's gossipy and entertaining about someone experiencing felony domestic violence. I'll wait. Should be super fun!!!

You are really reaching. You look like a fool. Please stop posting as you aren’t contributing anything to this non deep thread.

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What, you can’t find anything fun and gossipy to post about? I was waiting. I was looking forward to your fun posts about domestic violence. That was your intention, right? So please, enlighten us. It’s your thread after all.

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Anonymous wrote:I see no post of mine where I said it was her fault she was abused. You are absolutely batsh*t. I can’t figure out why you’re hell bent on continuing that narrative that I am blaming Nikki. I said she should leave the guy. I hope she does and I hope they both get help. Multiple posters aren’t calling me out - it’s simply you.

I will continue to stand by my opinion.

Absolutely multiple posts. I did. And haven’t posted in a while. Deal with it. You were wrong. And continue to be, when you say it’s not that deep. It is actually. It’s complicated, nuanced and deep.

You need help. Nikki should leave Artem. I am curious who bailed him out too.

Whether she should leave him is a separate issue from the gross victim blaming. We all hope there’s no abuse to begin with, and that the relationship ends if there is. But to act like this isn’t a complicated issue is just stupid.

Once again you’ve misunderstood me. I didn’t say this situation with Nikki and Artem isn’t complicated. I meant that what I posted wasn’t complicated (or not that deep). I keep saying she should leave him and you keep saying I’m victim blaming. Me simply stating she should leave him isn’t complicated. My intentions are clear. You have been reading way too much into my statements on a message board.

And once again you are responding to multiple people.

Great! Well maybe now everyone can see clearly what I mean.

Maybe you’ll understand why some people wish the initial and remaining focus be on his violence for which he was arrested, and not her response to that violence and whether she “holds him accountable.”

Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion. It is not your place to tell me or anyone else how to respond to this particular situation. I will comment on her response to the situation if I want to. That doesn’t mean I blame her for any of this. I’m the OP of this thread. I won’t accept you continuing to tell me I’m “blaming the victim” after I’ve clearly explained myself and when you’ve even admitted that her leaving him and blaming the victim are two separate issues. Ask yourself why are so quick to ascribe negative intentions to my posts on an entertainment board after I’ve explained myself? You need help.

You need to calm down. You’re getting so worked up. You need to remain more accepting of other viewpoints when you post threads.

To have someone continually tell me I’m blaming a DV victim (when I’m clearly not) and say it’s “sickening” is odd. I’m going to have to assume you’re a troll at this point. Good day.

Again, you’re arguing with multiple people. Some PEOPLE are telling you that. I haven’t said anything was sickening but someone else might have. This cracks me up that you think you “own” a thread that you started with the incredibly thought-provoking, insightful, deep comment of “wow. Unbelievable.” Others actually want to discuss the complexity of domestic violence and you’re saying it’s just posts on an entertainment board. Good day indeed.[/quote

Since you pointed out the thread isn’t actually thought provoking or deep, it’s interesting you thought this was the right place to “discuss the complexities of DV.” Go to a DV forum if you want, but this thread isn’t for that. Cheers.

A thread announcing that someone was a victim of domestic violence isn't a thread for discussing domestic violence?? What exactly was the thread supposed to discuss then?? What she was wearing? It's not that the thread wasn't thought provoking or deep. It's that you aren't.

You’re all over the place now. You literally said the thread wasn’t deep and that others actually want to discuss the complexity of DV. But now it’s “not that the thread isn’t deep, but you aren’t.” I’m not deep but somehow you’ve ascribed hidden meanings and intentions to my words all throughout this thread even though I’m “not deep.”if I’m not deep then you should take me at face value when I said I wanted to see how Nikki responds but I am not blaming her for being abused. This is a freaking gossip thread regarding 2 celebrities on an entertainment forum. If you want to go deep on DV, find a support group.

You are not that smart. I said YOUR COMMENT THAT STARTED THIS THREAD wasn't deep. Your comment of "Wow. Unbelievable." I mean, if you think that's deep, more power to you. The thread is about domestic violence. It's in the title that you wrote. If that's lighthearted gossip and entertainment to you, perhaps you're the one with the issues.

Please, enlighten us about what's gossipy and entertaining about someone experiencing felony domestic violence. I'll wait. Should be super fun!!!

You are really reaching. You look like a fool. Please stop posting as you aren’t contributing anything to this non deep thread.

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Anonymous wrote:I see no post of mine where I said it was her fault she was abused. You are absolutely batsh*t. I can’t figure out why you’re hell bent on continuing that narrative that I am blaming Nikki. I said she should leave the guy. I hope she does and I hope they both get help. Multiple posters aren’t calling me out - it’s simply you.

I will continue to stand by my opinion.

Absolutely multiple posts. I did. And haven’t posted in a while. Deal with it. You were wrong. And continue to be, when you say it’s not that deep. It is actually. It’s complicated, nuanced and deep.

You need help. Nikki should leave Artem. I am curious who bailed him out too.

Whether she should leave him is a separate issue from the gross victim blaming. We all hope there’s no abuse to begin with, and that the relationship ends if there is. But to act like this isn’t a complicated issue is just stupid.

Once again you’ve misunderstood me. I didn’t say this situation with Nikki and Artem isn’t complicated. I meant that what I posted wasn’t complicated (or not that deep). I keep saying she should leave him and you keep saying I’m victim blaming. Me simply stating she should leave him isn’t complicated. My intentions are clear. You have been reading way too much into my statements on a message board.

And once again you are responding to multiple people.

Great! Well maybe now everyone can see clearly what I mean.

Maybe you’ll understand why some people wish the initial and remaining focus be on his violence for which he was arrested, and not her response to that violence and whether she “holds him accountable.”

Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion. It is not your place to tell me or anyone else how to respond to this particular situation. I will comment on her response to the situation if I want to. That doesn’t mean I blame her for any of this. I’m the OP of this thread. I won’t accept you continuing to tell me I’m “blaming the victim” after I’ve clearly explained myself and when you’ve even admitted that her leaving him and blaming the victim are two separate issues. Ask yourself why are so quick to ascribe negative intentions to my posts on an entertainment board after I’ve explained myself? You need help.

You need to calm down. You’re getting so worked up. You need to remain more accepting of other viewpoints when you post threads.

To have someone continually tell me I’m blaming a DV victim (when I’m clearly not) and say it’s “sickening” is odd. I’m going to have to assume you’re a troll at this point. Good day.

+100 it’s obvious now