Artem Chigvintsev (Nikki Bella’s husband) charged with domestic violence

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Anonymous wrote:I guess she won’t be divorcing Artem and will just put up with him. Sad.

I guess society will continue to blame survivors and the choices they make focusing on them and their reactions rather than hold domestic abusers accountable. Sad.

It has to start with her holding him accountable which she is clearly not doing.

You have no idea what she’s doing or done. But it’s interesting that your reaction to this is to focus on her and not his violence.

Someone bailed him out. I wonder who? And yes, I want to see if she gets away from this as$hole. He isn’t going to leave. Not sure how that is the “wrong” reaction.

So you are assuming Nikki bailed him out?

Who else might spend $25,000 on him?

You know you can bail yourself out right? He’s not poor, he can afford the bail. If for some reason he needed a co-signed the obvious choice would be his brother.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess she won’t be divorcing Artem and will just put up with him. Sad.

I guess society will continue to blame survivors and the choices they make focusing on them and their reactions rather than hold domestic abusers accountable. Sad.

It has to start with her holding him accountable which she is clearly not doing.

You have no idea what she’s doing or done. But it’s interesting that your reaction to this is to focus on her and not his violence.

Someone bailed him out. I wonder who? And yes, I want to see if she gets away from this as$hole. He isn’t going to leave. Not sure how that is the “wrong” reaction.

So you are assuming Nikki bailed him out?

Who else might spend $25,000 on him?

You know you can bail yourself out right? He’s not poor, he can afford the bail. If for some reason he needed a co-signed the obvious choice would be his brother.

I actually did not know that!

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Anonymous wrote:I guess she won’t be divorcing Artem and will just put up with him. Sad.

I guess society will continue to blame survivors and the choices they make focusing on them and their reactions rather than hold domestic abusers accountable. Sad.

It has to start with her holding him accountable which she is clearly not doing.

You have no idea what she’s doing or done. But it’s interesting that your reaction to this is to focus on her and not his violence.

Someone bailed him out. I wonder who? And yes, I want to see if she gets away from this as$hole. He isn’t going to leave. Not sure how that is the “wrong” reaction.

So you are assuming Nikki bailed him out?

No. I said I wonder who.

Yes, after saying she needs to hold him accountable and that she clearly hasn’t. Then you needed to follow up with “someone bailed him out” when you were called out for putting the blame on the victim.

I say this with love - please listen to my words. I am in no way blaming Nikki for Artem’s disgusting actions. I want Nikki to leave Artem and be safe. No one should stay with an abuser. Period. We know so many choose to stay - I truly hope she doesn’t. It’s really that simple. Please stop attributing malicious intent to my posts and saying I am blaming Nikki. Have a nice night.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t she a wrestler or smth, shouldn’t she have kicked his a?

Hey PP, this is actually a great example of “blaming the victim.” Please call out this poster instead.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess she won’t be divorcing Artem and will just put up with him. Sad.

I guess society will continue to blame survivors and the choices they make focusing on them and their reactions rather than hold domestic abusers accountable. Sad.

It has to start with her holding him accountable which she is clearly not doing.

You have no idea what she’s doing or done. But it’s interesting that your reaction to this is to focus on her and not his violence.

Someone bailed him out. I wonder who? And yes, I want to see if she gets away from this as$hole. He isn’t going to leave. Not sure how that is the “wrong” reaction.

It's wrong because instead of asking "I wonder what he's going to do to atone for his violence" or "I wonder why he thinks it's OK to cause harm to his spouse" or "I wonder how, in this day and age, where it's routine for law enforcement to arrest both parties than try to figure out who is the primary aggressor that he got arrested for felony domestic violence even though he made the call" or "I wonder how many times he's chosen violence" or "I wonder why society keeps accepting violence from men" you ask "I wonder how SHE is going to respond to this" with the dangling implication "I'm going to judge her response to his violence instead of judging him for being violent to begin with." That's why it's the wrong reaction.

Wanting her to get away from that nut is not a wrong reaction at all. You have serious issues.

Sure. We all want someone to get away from an abuser. But solely focusing on the victim's action and not that of the abuser is what's created the situation where victims can't safely leave because no one believes them and places all the blame and responsibility on the victim, from solving the problem or even causing the problem. I'm sorry that concept is too difficult for you to understand.

This really doesn’t make sense to me at all. You can’t change another person, but you can change your reaction to them.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess she won’t be divorcing Artem and will just put up with him. Sad.

I guess society will continue to blame survivors and the choices they make focusing on them and their reactions rather than hold domestic abusers accountable. Sad.

It has to start with her holding him accountable which she is clearly not doing.

You have no idea what she’s doing or done. But it’s interesting that your reaction to this is to focus on her and not his violence.

Someone bailed him out. I wonder who? And yes, I want to see if she gets away from this as$hole. He isn’t going to leave. Not sure how that is the “wrong” reaction.

So you are assuming Nikki bailed him out?

No. I said I wonder who.

Yes, after saying she needs to hold him accountable and that she clearly hasn’t. Then you needed to follow up with “someone bailed him out” when you were called out for putting the blame on the victim.

I say this with love - please listen to my words. I am in no way blaming Nikki for Artem’s disgusting actions. I want Nikki to leave Artem and be safe. No one should stay with an abuser. Period. We know so many choose to stay - I truly hope she doesn’t. It’s really that simple. Please stop attributing malicious intent to my posts and saying I am blaming Nikki. Have a nice night.

I’m glad that this has struck a nerve with you. Your words and multiple posts were very clearly blaming Nikki. Several people called your attention this. Your bias against a DV victim was evident and it’s something you need to work on.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t she a wrestler or smth, shouldn’t she have kicked his a?

Hey PP, this is actually a great example of “blaming the victim.” Please call out this poster instead.

Your posts were a perfect example of blaming the victim.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess she won’t be divorcing Artem and will just put up with him. Sad.

I guess society will continue to blame survivors and the choices they make focusing on them and their reactions rather than hold domestic abusers accountable. Sad.

It has to start with her holding him accountable which she is clearly not doing.

You have no idea what she’s doing or done. But it’s interesting that your reaction to this is to focus on her and not his violence.

Someone bailed him out. I wonder who? And yes, I want to see if she gets away from this as$hole. He isn’t going to leave. Not sure how that is the “wrong” reaction.

So you are assuming Nikki bailed him out?

No. I said I wonder who.

Yes, after saying she needs to hold him accountable and that she clearly hasn’t. Then you needed to follow up with “someone bailed him out” when you were called out for putting the blame on the victim.

I say this with love - please listen to my words. I am in no way blaming Nikki for Artem’s disgusting actions. I want Nikki to leave Artem and be safe. No one should stay with an abuser. Period. We know so many choose to stay - I truly hope she doesn’t. It’s really that simple. Please stop attributing malicious intent to my posts and saying I am blaming Nikki. Have a nice night.

I’m glad that this has struck a nerve with you. Your words and multiple posts were very clearly blaming Nikki. Several people called your attention this. Your bias against a DV victim was evident and it’s something you need to work on.

I actually think it was just you calling me out. In no way did I blame Nikki and I made that clear over several of my posts. You are choosing to see something that is not there because I think you may have some baggage about DV and are overreacting. It’s really not that deep. I can see you feel very sensitive about the topic. I suggest you move on from this thread.

My opinion still stands - I think she should leave Artem. It would be sad if she stays.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess she won’t be divorcing Artem and will just put up with him. Sad.

I guess society will continue to blame survivors and the choices they make focusing on them and their reactions rather than hold domestic abusers accountable. Sad.

It has to start with her holding him accountable which she is clearly not doing.

You have no idea what she’s doing or done. But it’s interesting that your reaction to this is to focus on her and not his violence.

Someone bailed him out. I wonder who? And yes, I want to see if she gets away from this as$hole. He isn’t going to leave. Not sure how that is the “wrong” reaction.

So you are assuming Nikki bailed him out?

No. I said I wonder who.

Yes, after saying she needs to hold him accountable and that she clearly hasn’t. Then you needed to follow up with “someone bailed him out” when you were called out for putting the blame on the victim.

I say this with love - please listen to my words. I am in no way blaming Nikki for Artem’s disgusting actions. I want Nikki to leave Artem and be safe. No one should stay with an abuser. Period. We know so many choose to stay - I truly hope she doesn’t. It’s really that simple. Please stop attributing malicious intent to my posts and saying I am blaming Nikki. Have a nice night.

I’m glad that this has struck a nerve with you. Your words and multiple posts were very clearly blaming Nikki. Several people called your attention this. Your bias against a DV victim was evident and it’s something you need to work on.

I think you may be upset bc you may have stayed in a relationship with DV too long and it upsets you when people judge others for staying when you know it’s so hard to leave.

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Blaming the victim is saying, “it’s her fault she got hit.” Or, “why didn’t she fight back?”

Saying she should leave him is not blaming the victim, it’s common freaking sense.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess she won’t be divorcing Artem and will just put up with him. Sad.

I guess society will continue to blame survivors and the choices they make focusing on them and their reactions rather than hold domestic abusers accountable. Sad.

It has to start with her holding him accountable which she is clearly not doing.

You have no idea what she’s doing or done. But it’s interesting that your reaction to this is to focus on her and not his violence.

Someone bailed him out. I wonder who? And yes, I want to see if she gets away from this as$hole. He isn’t going to leave. Not sure how that is the “wrong” reaction.

So you are assuming Nikki bailed him out?

No. I said I wonder who.

Yes, after saying she needs to hold him accountable and that she clearly hasn’t. Then you needed to follow up with “someone bailed him out” when you were called out for putting the blame on the victim.

I say this with love - please listen to my words. I am in no way blaming Nikki for Artem’s disgusting actions. I want Nikki to leave Artem and be safe. No one should stay with an abuser. Period. We know so many choose to stay - I truly hope she doesn’t. It’s really that simple. Please stop attributing malicious intent to my posts and saying I am blaming Nikki. Have a nice night.

I’m glad that this has struck a nerve with you. Your words and multiple posts were very clearly blaming Nikki. Several people called your attention this. Your bias against a DV victim was evident and it’s something you need to work on.

I actually think it was just you calling me out. In no way did I blame Nikki and I made that clear over several of my posts. You are choosing to see something that is not there because I think you may have some baggage about DV and are overreacting. It’s really not that deep. I can see you feel very sensitive about the topic. I suggest you move on from this thread.

My opinion still stands - I think she should leave Artem. It would be sad if she stays.

There are multiple people that called you out for blaming Nikki. You can gaslight and backpedal that you didn’t make posts to her not leaving and of course who else would have paid his bail. Until you manage to get those posts deleted, we can see your intent was to blame the victim.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess she won’t be divorcing Artem and will just put up with him. Sad.

I guess society will continue to blame survivors and the choices they make focusing on them and their reactions rather than hold domestic abusers accountable. Sad.

It has to start with her holding him accountable which she is clearly not doing.

You have no idea what she’s doing or done. But it’s interesting that your reaction to this is to focus on her and not his violence.

Someone bailed him out. I wonder who? And yes, I want to see if she gets away from this as$hole. He isn’t going to leave. Not sure how that is the “wrong” reaction.

So you are assuming Nikki bailed him out?

No. I said I wonder who.

Yes, after saying she needs to hold him accountable and that she clearly hasn’t. Then you needed to follow up with “someone bailed him out” when you were called out for putting the blame on the victim.

I say this with love - please listen to my words. I am in no way blaming Nikki for Artem’s disgusting actions. I want Nikki to leave Artem and be safe. No one should stay with an abuser. Period. We know so many choose to stay - I truly hope she doesn’t. It’s really that simple. Please stop attributing malicious intent to my posts and saying I am blaming Nikki. Have a nice night.

I’m glad that this has struck a nerve with you. Your words and multiple posts were very clearly blaming Nikki. Several people called your attention this. Your bias against a DV victim was evident and it’s something you need to work on.

I think you may be upset bc you may have stayed in a relationship with DV too long and it upsets you when people judge others for staying when you know it’s so hard to leave.

Great example of how you blame victims of domestic violence. You’re being intentional at this point which is sickening.

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I see no post of mine where I said it was her fault she was abused. You are absolutely batsh*t. I can’t figure out why you’re hell bent on continuing that narrative that I am blaming Nikki. I said she should leave the guy. I hope she does and I hope they both get help. Multiple posters aren’t calling me out - it’s simply you.

I will continue to stand by my opinion.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess she won’t be divorcing Artem and will just put up with him. Sad.

I guess society will continue to blame survivors and the choices they make focusing on them and their reactions rather than hold domestic abusers accountable. Sad.

It has to start with her holding him accountable which she is clearly not doing.

You have no idea what she’s doing or done. But it’s interesting that your reaction to this is to focus on her and not his violence.

Someone bailed him out. I wonder who? And yes, I want to see if she gets away from this as$hole. He isn’t going to leave. Not sure how that is the “wrong” reaction.

So you are assuming Nikki bailed him out?

No. I said I wonder who.

[b]Yes, after saying she needs to hold him accountable and that she clearly hasn’t. Then you needed to follow up with “someone bailed him out” [b]when you were called out for putting the blame on the victim.

Those were two different posts with two different thoughts. One didn’t purposely connect with the other. I did wonder who bailed him out and that was not related to the holding him accountable post. Once again you are reading into something that is not there.

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Anonymous wrote:I see no post of mine where I said it was her fault she was abused. You are absolutely batsh*t. I can’t figure out why you’re hell bent on continuing that narrative that I am blaming Nikki. I said she should leave the guy. I hope she does and I hope they both get help. Multiple posters aren’t calling me out - it’s simply you.

I will continue to stand by my opinion.

Absolutely multiple posts. I did. And haven’t posted in a while. Deal with it. You were wrong. And continue to be, when you say it’s not that deep. It is actually. It’s complicated, nuanced and deep.